Batman R.I.P.

[Saint]

To be fair, whether it was a hallucination or not, we never saw Chill actually die. You know the rule in comics: if there's no body, it's usually because the person isn't dead.

Personally, I'd rather have it not be Chill. Batman driving Chill to suicide is a frightening glimpse into what Batman can become when he... lapses. That, and I think a betrayal of one's own code can be a useful occurrence for a character.

 

[CaptainClown]

The Joker talking to Grant Morrison about Batman R.I.P.

Spoiler

 

[ronny]

Has anyone thought that Hurt could be the "Evil" Mad Hatter? The big Texan guy with the moustahce that suddenly disappeared years ago?

 

[FCEEVIPER]

No more Mr. Morrison, no more!

 

[gqxsensazn]

I'm gonna "quote" Robert Downey Jr. in regards to R.I.P

I feel like I'm dumb because I feel like I don't get how many things that are so smart. It's like a Ferrari engine of storytelling and I'm like, 'That's not my idea of what I want to read in a comic.' I loved 'Batman & Son' but didn't understand 'R.I.P'. Didn't get it, still can't tell you what happened in the story, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I'm like, 'I get it. This is so high brow and so f--king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.' You know what? F-ck Grant Morrison. That's all I have to say and that's where I'm really coming from."

 

[Miss Webb]

meh, I'll wait for the conclusion...at some point all these theories are like a hamster on a wheel.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

"In his last hours, Alfred the Butler tells the life story of the Batman as you've never seen it before in this two-part adventure which bridges the gap between the events of "Batman R.I.P." and FINAL CRISIS."

Hmm. Last hours?? Looks like Alfred might be the one resting in peace.

 

[WolfCypher]

Or by "In his last hours", his could be Batman's last hours.

Obviously, that's not what peoples will assume.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Or by "In his last hours", his could be Batman's last hours.

Obviously, that's not what peoples will assume.

Wouldn't be grammatically correct though. When you start off a sentence with "In his last hours" followed by a comma and the name of a person, it's generally he/she that you're referring to.

 

[Motown Marvel]

so.....i've liked RIP so far. i look forward to the conclusion.

 

[Majic Walrus]

"In his last hours, Alfred the Butler tells the life story of the Batman as you've never seen it before in this two-part adventure which bridges the gap between the events of "Batman R.I.P." and FINAL CRISIS."

Hmm. Last hours?? Looks like Alfred might be the one resting in peace.

Alfred is Doctor Hurt!!

 

[Karem-Knight]

Well the way I see it, it seems that Bruce will be replaced post R.I.P. and that someone else will take the mantle, and as mentioned in 666 sometime in the future (possibly) Damien will become the Dark Knight, but he also mentions that Dick Grayson and Bruce Wayne preceded him as Batmen.

So, I assume that Dick will win the "Battle for the Cowl." but..

Spoiler

Did anyone else notice the dead Batman in issue 666, with Damien in his Robin costume?

 

[Majic Walrus]

Well the way I see it, it seems that Bruce will be replaced post R.I.P. and that someone else will take the mantle, and as mentioned in 666 sometime in the future (possibly) Damien will become the Dark Knight, but he also mentions that Dick Grayson and Bruce Wayne preceded him as Batmen.

So, I assume that Dick will win the "Battle for the Cowl." but..

Spoiler

Did anyone else notice the dead Batman in issue 666, with Damien in his Robin costume?

Technically Dick has been Batman once before during the last days of Knightfall. However I still think you're right.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I finally read the latest issue of "Batman R.I.P.", and I was totally blown away. I'm frankly surprised to come on here and find that most people have crapped on it. That was one of the best comics I've read all year. Climactic, nerve-shredding stuff.

You can niggle about how the reveal of Jezebel Jet as the Black Glove wasn't surprising all you want. The execution was tremendous. That moment, with Jezebel extending her (black) gloved hand, as the red petal falls onto it, with The Joker screaming "Now do you get it? NOW DO YOU GET IT!?", must surely count as one of the most haunting finales to a comic in quite some time.

The Joker was, in one word, astounding. Grant Morrison's Joker is surely the darkest, most terrifying depiction of the character ever. He was genuinely frightening, a force of nature. It's got a lot of criticism, but I have loved Tony Daniels' interpretation of him, too. He just looks like evil incarnate. And the dialogue is brilliant, laced in equal measure with iconic talk setting up the Batman/Joker rivalry, and ironic asides that seem to be directed at the readers and their expectations, like "I bet you think this is the part where old enemies unite to turn the tables on the new pretenders".

This issue struck a wonderful balance between big revelations and a bundle of unresolved threads being left dangling, and combined with a hell of a cliffhanger, it's left me desperate to get my hands on the concluding issue. Like "Final Crisis", I think it's going to become recognised as an underrated gem thanks to people prematurely rejecting it, but I personally think "Batman R.I.P." has been some astonishing storytelling.

 

[OSM]

Right, well I reread RIP from beginning to the current.

It's making sense now, and it helps if you read Robin dies at Dawn first. This is brilliantly put together but it's still such a mind trip. This arc is really going to shake the Batman mythos for years to come.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I finally read the latest issue of "Batman R.I.P.", and I was totally blown away. I'm frankly surprised to come on here and find that most people have crapped on it. That was one of the best comics I've read all year. Climactic, nerve-shredding stuff.

You can niggle about how the reveal of Jezebel Jet as the Black Glove wasn't surprising all you want. The execution was tremendous. That moment, with Jezebel extending her (black) gloved hand, as the red petal falls onto it, with The Joker screaming "Now do you get it? NOW DO YOU GET IT!?", must surely count as one of the most haunting finales to a comic in quite some time.

The Joker was, in one word, astounding. Grant Morrison's Joker is surely the darkest, most terrifying depiction of the character ever. He was genuinely frightening, a force of nature. It's got a lot of criticism, but I have loved Tony Daniels' interpretation of him, too. He just looks like evil incarnate. And the dialogue is brilliant, laced in equal measure with iconic talk setting up the Batman/Joker rivalry, and ironic asides that seem to be directed at the readers and their expectations, like "I bet you think this is the part where old enemies unite to turn the tables on the new pretenders".

This issue struck a wonderful balance between big revelations and a bundle of unresolved threads being left dangling, and combined with a hell of a cliffhanger, it's left me desperate to get my hands on the concluding issue. Like "Final Crisis", I think it's going to become recognised as an underrated gem thanks to people prematurely rejecting it, but I personally think "Batman R.I.P." has been some astonishing storytelling.

I think most people were quite impressed with the latest issue (myself included), but less thrilled with prior stories leading up to it. Noone knows for sure what's going to happen next and that's exciting!

 

[Two-Face=Badass]

I dislike his Joker though, the look, the over-the-top gory obsession and Sweeney Todd razors. The bullet forehead is annoying, and really, there is no excuse for Joker believing Batman shot him. Joker knows Batman more than most people, and he know for sure that he would never shoot him. Also the tongue cutting was stupid, he would be gagging on his own blood there.

The rest was very good, but I dislike how Morrison is relying on these stories for this arc which really aren't even considered in continuity, it seems to me he is setting up Batman for a horrifying fall, when really I'd like to see the first Batman's last days on the job as a big farewell. Also, a heap of random characters are getting totally wasted here before we even know them like Le Bossu. Who knows, it might turn out great, but ultimately that falls on the last issue as Morrison's style always puts its whole premise of the climax. And if that fails, so does the rest in my opinion.

 

[sclabguy]

I dislike his Joker though, the look, the over-the-top gory obsession and Sweeney Todd razors. The bullet forehead is annoying, and really, there is no excuse for Joker believing Batman shot him. Joker knows Batman more than most people, and he know for sure that he would never shoot him. Also the tongue cutting was stupid, he would be gagging on his own blood there.

The rest was very good, but I dislike how Morrison is relying on these stories for this arc which really aren't even considered in continuity, it seems to me he is setting up Batman for a horrifying fall, when really I'd like to see the first Batman's last days on the job as a big farewell. Also, a heap of random characters are getting totally wasted here before we even know them like Le Bossu. Who knows, it might turn out great, but ultimately that falls on the last issue as Morrison's style always puts its whole premise of the climax. And if that fails, so does the rest in my opinion.

i'd have to agree on the bullet wound in the forehead of the joker. i feel like he's a buddhist monk, but i like the way he's written and drawn. i never read the batman issue where the joker gets shot cuz it always puts me to sleep. but how is this interpretation different than all the other interpretations of the joker? for me it seems pretty close and i've read everything after 86

 

[Majic Walrus]

I dislike his Joker though, the look, the over-the-top gory obsession and Sweeney Todd razors. The bullet forehead is annoying, and really, there is no excuse for Joker believing Batman shot him. Joker knows Batman more than most people, and he know for sure that he would never shoot him. Also the tongue cutting was stupid, he would be gagging on his own blood there.

I agree totally. I'm not caring for the artwork or style of the joker at all in RIP.

The rest was very good, but I dislike how Morrison is relying on these stories for this arc which really aren't even considered in continuity, it seems to me he is setting up Batman for a horrifying fall, when really I'd like to see the first Batman's last days on the job as a big farewell. Also, a heap of random characters are getting totally wasted here before we even know them like Le Bossu. Who knows, it might turn out great, but ultimately that falls on the last issue as Morrison's style always puts its whole premise of the climax. And if that fails, so does the rest in my opinion.

I think that setting up Batman for a horrible downfall is going to be even bigger farewell if he overcomes this. But you're right the last issue is going to be the deciding issue of this run. There's no two ways about it. If the last issue sucks then so does everything else.

 

[rnewbz]

you know i really don't understand while in all of the jocker's appearance's outside of R.I.P. the joker has his classic look. I think that's just lazy writing and art decision.

 

[WolfCypher]

you know i really don't understand while in all of the jocker's appearance's outside of R.I.P. the joker has his classic look. I think that's just lazy writing and art decision.

It's no different from the Joker being in Arkyam in one Bat-title and in another title he's spreading a virus in Metropolis. Just an example. And all comic companies do it. Look at Wolverine. He's in San Fran in X-Men, while traveling the country in Origins, while at the Savage Lands in SI.

 

[javi1024]

I dislike his Joker though, the look, the over-the-top gory obsession and Sweeney Todd razors. The bullet forehead is annoying, and really, there is no excuse for Joker believing Batman shot him. Joker knows Batman more than most people, and he know for sure that he would never shoot him. Also the tongue cutting was stupid, he would be gagging on his own blood there.

The rest was very good, but I dislike how Morrison is relying on these stories for this arc which really aren't even considered in continuity, it seems to me he is setting up Batman for a horrifying fall, when really I'd like to see the first Batman's last days on the job as a big farewell. Also, a heap of random characters are getting totally wasted here before we even know them like Le Bossu. Who knows, it might turn out great, but ultimately that falls on the last issue as Morrison's style always puts its whole premise of the climax. And if that fails, so does the rest in my opinion.

i agree with everything about the Joker. and maybe it's just because i grew up with Mark Hamill's Joker, maybe i haven't read enough Joker stories, but i prefer a lighter Joker. he's so dark and demented in RIP that it doesn't feel like the same character. the acid-squirting flower, the "bang" flag gun, the Joker you wanted to steer clear of because he's carrying a birthday cake lit with dynamite- that's who i think of when i picture the Joker, not the guy looking at you like he wants to eat your babies.

 

[CaptainClown]

Ya this Joker is more along the lines of being ridiculous. It is like something from a Rob Zombie movie.

 

[The Joker]

I dislike his Joker though, the look, the over-the-top gory obsession and Sweeney Todd razors. The bullet forehead is annoying, and really, there is no excuse for Joker believing Batman shot him. Joker knows Batman more than most people, and he know for sure that he would never shoot him. Also the tongue cutting was stupid, he would be gagging on his own blood there.

I have to agree with this. Not too keen on this interpretation of the Joker at all.

 

[WolfCypher]

there is no excuse for Joker believing Batman shot him. Joker knows Batman more than most people, and he know for sure that he would never shoot him.

Personally, this is my only issue with RIP.