Batman & Robin

[TheBatman072]

Except for, you know, Bane.

 

[colonel sanders]

Except for, you know, Bane.

Bane didn't die. After they pulled his tube out he just lost his muscular build but he was still alive.

 

[El Payaso]

I think what he meant, El Payaso, was that if Batman and Robin was not as terrible as it was, WB may have just continued with another Scumacher film.

However, B&R was SO bad, they pulled the plug on the franchise, wanting to start all over with a new director and a new take on it. So in a way, if B&R never came out, we may never have gotten a Nolan film.

For that, we should be thanking Joel.

Oh, certainly not.

If anything we should thank the producers and/or executives who risked themselves IN SPITE of Schumacher's B&R.

 

[Indrid Cold]

Oh, certainly not.

If anything we should thank the producers and/or executives who risked themselves IN SPITE of Schumacher's B&R.

Very true, the producers really took a chance, and I'm glad they did. Because the studios let Nolan and crew take a chance, we have the best comic book franchise in decades.

 

[TMC1982]

Oh, certainly not.

If anything we should thank the producers and/or executives who risked themselves IN SPITE of Schumacher's B&R.

The poor response to that Batman & Robin received made Warner Bros. realize that you can't make a Batman movie with merchandising and pandering hard to kiddies (to the point in which it's utterly intelligence insulting) your first priority and putting forth a good cast, script and direction secondary. Warner Bros. I feel, couldn't trust directors all that much after the negative fall out that Batman Returns received (when Tim Burton got total creative control unlike in the 1989 film).

 

[Gukbe2000]

In the right mindset (read: really bored) I kind of enjoy Batman & Robin for its goofiness. It's not a good movie by any means - it's basically a commercial for Batman toys - BUT if you look at it as more of an adaptation of the Adam West TV series it's darn near perfect.

 

[Fresh Prince]

The poor response to that Batman & Robin received made Warner Bros. realize that you can't make a Batman movie with merchandising and pandering hard to kiddies (to the point in which it's utterly intelligence insulting) your first priority and putting forth a good cast, script and direction secondary. Warner Bros. I feel, couldn't trust directors all that much after the negative fall out that Batman Returns received (when Tim Burton got total creative control unlike in the 1989 film).

How did Batman Returns fail? It was a great movie.

 

[returntovoid]

How did Batman Returns fail? It was a great movie.

Because it was too dark/depressing/gothic and there was a backlash over it pushing the limit of the PG-13 rating due to which Warner Bros. fired Tim Burton from his position as director, on the Batman franchise.

 

[The Joker]

Returns didn't fail at all. It had some flaws, but overall the movie was terrific.

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

Returns didn't fail at all. It had some flaws, but overall the movie was terrific.

IMO, its the best of the original batmans...

 

[ultrasuperduckman]

Had the army of penquins not attacked at the end haha.

Other than that..

 

[The Joker]

Ah the penguin army didn't bother me much at all. Sure it was a little corny, but if Batman can summon a flock of bats then Penguin can have his penguins march thru Gotham.

 

[El Payaso]

Because it was too dark/depressing/gothic and there was a backlash over it pushing the limit of the PG-13 rating due to which Warner Bros. fired Tim Burton from his position as director, on the Batman franchise.

So a winner bat-movie would be the one that satisfies McDonald's and a bunch of parents?

 

[Cain]

I loved the rocket carrying penguins I wish they actually sold them in the pet stores cause I'd buy at least 6 of them.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Because it was too dark/depressing/gothic and there was a backlash over it pushing the limit of the PG-13 rating due to which Warner Bros. fired Tim Burton from his position as director, on the Batman franchise.

So what its Batman thats how his world is.

 

[ultrasuperduckman]

Ah the penguin army didn't bother me much at all. Sure it was a little corny, but if Batman can summon a flock of bats then Penguin can have his penguins march thru Gotham.

Haha yeah true. I always kinda' thought of the bat scene as being cheesy as well.

So what its Batman thats how his world is.

Maybe. But the parents didn't feel the same way.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Screw the parents, Batman's mature element is for teens and adults mainly.

 

[El Payaso]

Maybe. But the parents didn't feel the same way.

I mean that deosn't mean that we (or anyone) should care for what parents would/wouldn't say/think.

 

[MrQuinn]

He didn't mean the movie failed in the sense that it's a bad movie, he just meant that Burton, as a director, had complete control over the film (which in my opinion is why the movie was so good) but it backfired and scared some kids and caused some public disturbance, thus "failing" on WB's behalf, trying to keep it pg-13 and market it to younger audience and such. This being said, it was a big risk letting Nolan have the control he had in the new franchise.

 

[ultrasuperduckman]

I mean that deosn't mean that we (or anyone) should care for what parents would/wouldn't say/think.

True. Just explaining what the original poster probably meant.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Gordon was potrayed poorly in these movies. The actor was good, but Gordon himself was ass. He was tolerable in B89 and BR, but BF and B&R he was potrayed as a bumbling, idiot cop.

Wonder how Bullock would of been potrayed in these movies, as a homosexual who dress in bright light colorful suits.

 

[Rodrigo90]

God rest his soul,but Pat Hingle as Gordon was essentially useless in these movies. The police were thick as constipation.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Agreed they were. Clooney actually could of been a good Batman if igven a better Batman movie.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Wonder how Bullock would of been potrayed in these movies, as a homosexual who dress in bright light colorful suits.

 

[Two-Face]

Gordon was potrayed poorly in these movies. The actor was good, but Gordon himself was ass. He was tolerable in B89 and BR, but BF and B&R he was potrayed as a bumbling, idiot cop.

Well old Gordon in the comics Kane/Finger did rely on Batman a lot so, Burton/Sgumacher's Gordon is straight portrayed of Kane/Finger.