BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - Part 1

[InJustice]

How much do you think WB expects from BvS?

Considering they had a low number for Man of Steel, I think they'll be expecting somewhere between 800-1bil.

The range depends entirely on what kind of quality the film has.

 

[souperman]

Maybe there should be some...awards .? Did someone say something about a check?

2 prizes...Closest guess to actual box office opening weekend...and total World wide BO.

Unless you're chicken...; )

 

[dnno1]

WB surely expects $1B. even if it is $999mn they will be disappointed. BvS only needs to be an "okay" movie to reach 1B

They won't complain if they got their money back plus (a little more than) 80% (i.e. $450 million), but they would be disappointed if it only made "Man of Steel" numbers. I think their expectations are to beat that.

 

[mclay18]

Lucy made 459million worldwide, don't count out Scar Jo in action mode, people like her when she is in action mode.

That's why WB shouldn't open WW on the same date as GITS. I think if people had the choice between watching ScarJo in action mode or Gal Gadot, they'd probably opt for the former.

 

[Nemeres]

I'd like to go to Earth 2 and see what the prospects would be if this were simply MOS2, sans Batman, just out of sheer curiosity. Regarding the 1 billion, I actually thought it took longer for movies to reach the mark, but apparently Avengers did it in less than 10 days and Iron Man 3 in less than 25. This doesn't have the fanbase those two did, but neither did MOS and it still scored a 100-plus first weekend. For a while there I entertained the thought that BVS wouldn't get there, but so much for that.

 

[Black Narcissus]

That's why WB shouldn't open WW on the same date as GITS. I think if people had the choice between watching ScarJo in action mode or Gal Gadot, they'd probably opt for the former.

Eh, nevah count out any cbm nowadays.

WW would still seem to be more kid friendly than GITS. That should count for something.

 

[InJustice]

That's why WB shouldn't open WW on the same date as GITS. I think if people had the choice between watching ScarJo in action mode or Gal Gadot, they'd probably opt for the former.

I wouldn't rely 100% on just the actress though, if the movie is crap and the word of mouth is terrible, its not going to really matter who the lead is. Not to mention, this is a battle of brand recognition vs. something the general audience has no idea about. Given how much people like to get the most out of their money, and not spend on an unknown commodity, I bet they are more likely to opt for WW than a "new" concept movie like GiTS.

 

[Pickleweasel]

That's why WB shouldn't open WW on the same date as GITS. I think if people had the choice between watching ScarJo in action mode or Gal Gadot, they'd probably opt for the former.

And if people had the choice between Wonder Woman and some **** they've never heard of before they would probably opt for the former as well.

 

[Marvin]

I'd like to go to Earth 2 and see what the prospects would be if this were simply MOS2, sans Batman, just out of sheer curiosity. Regarding the 1 billion, I actually thought it took longer for movies to reach the mark, but apparently Avengers did it in less than 10 days and Iron Man 3 in less than 25. This doesn't have the fanbase those two did, but neither did MOS and it still scored a 100-plus first weekend. For a while there I entertained the thought that BVS wouldn't get there, but so much for that.

Hitting a high total WW in a certain amount of days has a crap ton to do with how fast and wide a studios rolls out their film internationally. In the mean time things like TDK have yet to be released in China.
Just saying 10 days or 30 days there is an element of if said films hits big markets inside of 10 days or 30 days.

I too wonder what MOS2 would have made, if it simply came out traditionally, I think it would have proven alot of people wrong one way or another, but like alot of the mcu films, we'll never know.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

I think $800-$875 mil is pretty reasonable for expectations.

 

[kendalag]

I think $800-$875 mil is pretty reasonable for expectations.

People will think of it as a considerable disappointment if adding Batman & Wonder Woman only increases this film 130 worldwide over MoS, especially considering how China has blown up even more in the last year or so.

In fact, if it happens, it would likely mean the film is pretty much garbage and had horrible WOM and Snyder would probably be done going forward.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

People will think of it as a considerable disappointment if adding Batman & Wonder Woman only increases this film 130 worldwide over MoS, especially considering how China has blown up even more in the last year or so.

In fact, if it happens, it would likely mean the film is pretty much garbage and had horrible WOM and Snyder would probably be done going forward.

It won't get 800 million with garbage word of mouth either.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

It's gotta be the worst CBM ever for it to NOT make a billion.

 

[Marvin]

People will think of it as a considerable disappointment if adding Batman & Wonder Woman only increases this film 130 worldwide over MoS, especially considering how China has blown up even more in the last year or so.

In fact, if it happens, it would likely mean the film is pretty much garbage and had horrible WOM and Snyder would probably be done going forward.

Bad word of mouth as per fans seems to be a driving force behind a good amount of predictions. Not everyone predicts numbers based on a word of mouth darling.
Shame really.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Marvel has already had the shared universe of movies which helped bump its numbers. Simply inserting Batman and a bit of WW guarantees a billion even if the movie is terrible? I don't buy into this theory. I think wom will matter. It will have to be at least good and satisfying to main base to hit the 800 million. It will hit the billion mark if it gets fantastic wom coverage.

 

[Marvin]

Marvel has already had the shared universe of movies which helped bump its numbers. Simply inserting Batman and a bit of WW guarantees a billion even if the movie is terrible? I don't buy into this theory. I think wom will matter. It will have to be at least good and satisfying to main base to hit the 800 million. It will hit the billion mark if it gets fantastic wom coverage.

My particular point isn't about whether adding a character coming off of two straight (non 3D) billion dollar films to a vs movie against someone who himself is on his way to such things, and a bunch of other big characters in some event is going to generate a billion even if it's a 'bad' as transformers word of mouth wise.
I mean I get how WOM is a factor(even though it seemingly doesn't matter to a bunch of other films though). My point was that sure, WOM is a factor but it seems alot of these guesses assume bad or neutral even WOM.
This is one of the few scenarios where that happens quite often.
I mean do all of these Avengers 2 predictions work on the realm of bad or even so so word of mouth? I doubt it, and I suppose that's 'earned' if you will, hell almost all of those guesses and those of star wars even work on phenomenal word of mouth it seems.
With BvS, great word of mouth seems to never enter the equation. I'm not even asking why, I'm just highlighting that it happens.

Truthfully,
If anything I think that's a good thing for WB that this is happening, for unlike last time, people won't be able to hold their own expectations over the studio's bottom line. If everyone and their mother is guessing under a billion than it not beating 1.5bill might still be considered a massive success after all.

I'm also still eager to see what happens to this thread after the trailer and trailer reaction. For too long all of this stuff has been based on a 2 year old film and some other things...should be interesting.

 

[Noctis]

if Civil war out grosses BvS then I'd consider THAT as i huge failure

 

[Sharkboy]

It hinges on Affleck as Batman, everything from now until release NEEDS build on it's most buzzworthy and scrutinised addition.

 

[Sharkboy]

if Civil war out grosses BvS then I'd consider THAT as i huge failure

For fanboys that care about things like that i guess. I think WB just wants BvS to be as big and successful a film it can be, so they can justify the next couple of years of superhero films.

Chances are though, CW WILL outgross it, apart from it being an MCU film, it's also coming off one of the best CBM's of all time in Winter soldier, Avengers 2 would have to put a REAL bad taste in peoples mouths for anyone to cool off on the franchise right now.

 

[Noctis]

I doubt Civil War will out gross BvS a movie that could rival the avengers box office wise, i mean hype alone people have been talking about Batman V Superman for nearly 2 years while you barely hear anything about Civil War unless a major character has been announced.

 

[Marvin]

if Civil war out grosses BvS then I'd consider THAT as i huge failure

There is something to be said fair comparison.

It's WB's second movie in this universe though. When one talks about the films you come off, Civil war is coming off of alot of things, including Guardians and multiple Avengers and 2 cap movies.

I mean as big as batman is supposed to be, there is the matter of this being a Reboot batman. Just imagine for two seconds Civil war involved a Rebooted Ironman. Still big but worth factoring in. However, just like superman last time, all that should have been factored in went to the wayside in light of him being 'the biggest ever'.

I was listening to a star wars discussion the other day and people said as big as it could be, it's biggest disadvantage against the likes of avengers was that it was coming off of a decade of bad prequels and avengers was coming off of the opposite. Imagine such an observation about what MOS was coming off of in it's legacy.

I personally think anything can happen. Both companies seemingly put their strongest games forward with what they currently have available. For all the advantages both sides have in this situation, one of the featured advantages is the WB's vs movie will be out first and most likely won't be simply called a copy, it also won't suffer from comparison the way the latter film will.
For all the people that say doing avengers after avengers may work against WB in that the audience has been there done that....

 

[JOE]

if Civil war out grosses BvS then I'd consider THAT as i huge failure

Not one bit. Civil War is a monster. There's a reason they're not coming out on the same day anymore. Relatively speaking, if BvS makes 1.1B and CW makes 1.3B would you still consider BvS a failure?

I doubt Civil War will out gross BvS a movie that could rival the avengers box office wise, i mean hype alone people have been talking about Batman V Superman for nearly 2 years while you barely hear anything about Civil War unless a major character has been announced.

Civil War is the Avengers lineup minus Hulk and Thor, while now adding Black Panther, and let's not forget Spider-Man's MCU debut. I'm not belittling BvS' hype, but CW could easily do IM3's numbers if not more. It has THAT much potential.

 

[Silliminite]

Not one bit. Civil War is a monster. There's a reason they're not coming out on the same day anymore. Relatively speaking, if BvS makes 1.1B and CW makes 1.3B would you still consider BvS a failure?


Civil War is the Avengers lineup minus Hulk and Thor, while now adding Black Panther, and let's not forget Spider-Man's MCU debut. I'm not belittling BvS' hype, but CW could easily do IM3's numbers if not more. It has THAT much potential.

Agreed. CW is going to be huge and it's very likely it'll beat BvS box office-wise.

BvS’s success shouldn't be determined based on how it performs compared to films like CW.

 

[bluearth]

After seeing Furious 7 numbers for the first weekend of April, Batman v Superman should easily surpass 1 billion.

 

[GreenKToo]

I dont know. I like both companies but I lean toward DC, i'll admit that.
It's just hard for me to imagine in any universe where CA:CW beats BvS. I like cap and all but this is two of the most iconic superheroes ever on the big screen together for the very first time ever. That alone will bring butts to the seats.

I mean sure, BvS could suck and lose to CW, but if its good as we all hope it is, I dont think so. At the least I could see them doing similar numbers.