BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - - Part 13

[InCali]

People seem to have too high a hope for 'Wonder Woman'
It's releasing the same day as Transformers 5, Despicable me 3 and Uncharted comes in a week later and then Marvel's Spider-man 2 weeks later, very poor spot

I would hate to see a good movie (assuming WW IS good....at least there's a chance it will be....unlike $#!tformers) get bad BO numbers because some piece of something that came out of a dog's butt of a movie made a bunch of money. PLEASE move it. Don't worry about the month. Give it a good corridor and give it a fighting chance. At least let it stand or fall based on its merits.

If WW does really poorly and/or is poorly received, the DC universe will suffer. I really don't want that to happen. I hope WB gets some people who know how to make a good movie. Having another bad showing on/near the heels of BvS is a bad thing....for all of us who want to see good SH movies. WW needs to do well in all departments to give DC some momentum after what is apparently a bad BO showing by the 2 cornerstones of the DC universe.

OH dear god save us. I just read that there are 3 more crapformers (doesn't deserve a capital letter) movies on tap. What did humanity ever do to deserve this? (Don't bother answering that question)

 

[Spiderdevil]

They could claim that WW will need more time, move it to the JL1 slot, then say that they will use the extra time to make JL "extra special". So the excuse would be WW not JL and Snyder.

That's their best bet, postpone everything by moving them a Spot over, send a fat paycheck over to Affleck to fast track a Batman solo script in time to release in JL1's spot and revive the DCEU

Though I have a feeling WB is gonna hold their cards close the chest till they see the response for Suicide Squad

 

[Zarex]

So it seems unlikely to even hit $900 million now? Just stunning.

I had the BvS BO ending up between $900M and $1.1B and was mocked for suggesting that this film may not crack $1B. The fact that I actually over predicted the film is, indeed, stunning.

 

[jokesonm3]

That's their best bet, postpone everything by moving them a Spot over, send a fat paycheck over to Affleck to fast track a Batman solo script in time to release in JL1's spot and revive the DCEU

Though I have a feeling DC is gonna hold their cards close the chest till they see the response for Suicide Squad

It's Warner Bros that's in charge here man, not DC, they just make comics.

 

[brandeezy89]

They could claim that WW will need more time, move it to the JL1 slot, then say that they will use the extra time to make JL "extra special". So the excuse would be WW not JL and Snyder.

Delay it like BvS and end up losing more money? Not a good idea imo, plus I don't think they want to go a year + without a DC film released

 

[The Joker]

So what was the drop today?

 

[Tony Stark]

3.1 M from RTH, waiting for official studio numbers.

 

[Zarex]

That's their best bet, postpone everything by moving them a Spot over, send a fat paycheck over to Affleck to fast track a Batman solo in time to release of JL1's spot and revive the DCEU

Though I have a feeling DC is gonna hold their cards close the chest till they see the response for Suicide Squad

Maybe. But Suicide Squad won't help Justice League. That's falling on Ms. Gadot's slender shoulders.

A delay makes sense. Move Wondy to the JL spot, put the Batfleck solo into the 2018 Flash slot, keep Aquaman where he is and hope and pray you are ready to release JL1 on the 2019 JL2 release date.

 

[johnboy3434]

So what was the drop today?

$3.1 million, or about 78%. Day-to-day, it's bad but not awful (CotT andF7 averaged 75%), but Monday-to-Monday it's pretty damn bad due to the underperformance over the course of last week. That's about an 80% drop compared to 72% average for the comparable films.

 

[Spiderdevil]

It's Warner Bros that's in charge here man, not DC, they just make comics.

Yup, what I meant

 

[InCali]

Maybe. But Suicide Squad won't help Justice League. That's falling on Ms. Gadot's slender shoulders.

A delay makes sense. Move Wondy to the JL spot, put the Batfleck solo into the 2018 Flash slot, keep Aquaman where he is and hope and pray you are ready to release JL1 on the 2019 JL2 release date.

I think that's right. Those are some pretty shoulders though. WB needs to string together some hits. IF they can get a compelling BM movie in there, that could be a YUGE boost.

 

[Stark Bauer]

BvS will be a setting a lot of box office records by the time the dust settles. I don't think we will be seeing another movie perform so manically at the box office as BvS is doing.

 

[JOE]

BvS will be a setting a lot of box office records by the time the dust settles.

Continuing on with their plans after the biggest drop off in CBM history? This GIF summarizes BvS PERFECTLY!

 

[Kobra]

So it seems unlikely to even hit $900 million now? Just stunning.

What's so stunning about it? TDK, a great movie with a lot of hype behind it made 1B. Batman Begins made 374M. Superman Returns made 391M. MOS made 668M. If this makes 850M or something, what's so stunning about it? Why does everyone think that because this movie has Superman and Batman in it, it should make over 1B dollars? It has been proven several times that these characters aren't guaranteed BO hits, even if the movies are good. This new Superman isn't particularly popular among the GA. This Batman is portrayed by a guy that a lot of people hate. It's the sequel of a movie that wasn't that well received. It's very dark and kind of depressing, in an age where most CB movies are humurous. What's so shocking about it making less than 1B? If it made 400M i would understand. But 800, 900M? I don't see anything crazy about this value. It's underwhelming, but not stunning.

 

[Stark Bauer]

Continuing on with their plans after the biggest drop off in CBM history? This GIF summarizes BvS PERFECTLY!

I didn't mean the records WB wants to set. Lol

 

[JOE]

What's so stunning about it? TDK, a great movie with a lot of hype behind it made 1B. Batman Begins made 374M. Superman Returns made 391M. MOS made 668M. If this makes 850M or something, what's so stunning about it? Why does everyone think that because this movie has Superman and Batman in it, it should make over 1B dollars? It has been proven several times that these characters aren't guaranteed BO hits, even if the movies are good. This new Superman isn't particularly popular among the GA. This Batman is portrayed by a guy that a lot of people hate. It's the sequel of a movie who wasn't that well received. It's very dark and kind of depressing, in an age where most CB movies are humurous. What's so shocking about it making less than 1B? If it made 400M i would understand. But 800, 900M? I don't see anything crazy about this value. It's underwhelming, but not stunning.

TDK DOM numbers adjusted for inflation is more than double of BvS' domestic run. Throw in that it had no 3D, throw in that it had no China release for worldwide figures. TDK blows this movie out of the water in every financial aspect. To say that this movie is doing well is just absurd in respect to it's actual potential.

I didn't mean the records WB wants to set. Lol

I know lol, was just making a joke!

 

[brandeezy89]

Maybe. But Suicide Squad won't help Justice League. That's falling on Ms. Gadot's slender shoulders.

A delay makes sense. Move Wondy to the JL spot, put the Batfleck solo into the 2018 Flash slot, keep Aquaman where he is and hope and pray you are ready to release JL1 on the 2019 JL2 release date.

WW would get destroyed by the Star Wars and the Disney film CoCo. Plus a year and a couple months is too long to wait for a DC film.

Problem with March and Feb. are other WB films releasing in that month unless they switch with another WB film which might be a good idea.

I would switch WW with King Arthur or Lego Batman

 

[smashmode]

Who's rth?

what's rth?

Sorry guys, RTH is a poster at Box office Theory, I believe he works either for the Theater industry or one of the studios. So he gets access to Raw data which he uses to make his estimates.

They usually come out before official estimates.

He has a good track record, so people follow his numbers/posts.

 

[MadVillainy]

What's so stunning about it? TDK, a great movie with a lot of hype behind it made 1B. Batman Begins made 374M. Superman Returns made 391M. MOS made 668M. If this makes 850M or something, what's so stunning about it? Why does everyone think that because this movie has Superman and Batman in it, it should make over 1B dollars? It has been proven several times that these characters aren't guaranteed BO hits, even if the movies are good. This new Superman isn't particularly popular among the GA. This Batman is portrayed by a guy that a lot of people hate. It's the sequel of a movie who wasn't that well received. It's very dark and kind of depressing, in an age where most CB movies are humurous. What's so shocking about it making less than 1B? If it made 400M i would understand. But 800, 900M? I don't see anything crazy about this value. It's underwhelming, but not stunning.

There's a couple things aobut this.
1) The last 2 Batman movies made a billion (without 3D). So everyone, rightfully so, thought this would make a billion. It makes sense.
2) Superman ok, but still the novelty of Bats and Supes in the same movies shouldve pushed the movie far.

It funny to me seeing people coming out of the wood work saying: "This was never gonna make 1B" or "Why are people surprised this isn't making a billion"

In this age where multiple movies make a billion a year, including superhero movies, it's kinda sad that a movie with 2 of the greatest superheroes might not cross 1B even with 3D and IMAX

 

[Stark Bauer]

What's so stunning about it? TDK, a great movie with a lot of hype behind it made 1B. Batman Begins made 374M. Superman Returns made 391M. MOS made 668M. If this makes 850M or something, what's so stunning about it? Why does everyone think that because this movie has Superman and Batman in it, it should make over 1B dollars? It has been proven several times that these characters aren't guaranteed BO hits, even if the movies are good. This new Superman isn't particularly popular among the GA. This Batman is portrayed by a guy that a lot of people hate. It's the sequel of a movie who wasn't that well received. It's very dark and kind of depressing, in an age where most CB movies are humurous. What's so shocking about it making less than 1B? If it made 400M i would understand. But 800, 900M? I don't see anything crazy about this value.

Common sense would dictate that

A. A movie containing only Batman can make over a billion all alone,

Then

B. A movie with both Batman AND Superman would do gangbusters.

It's easy to say what you are saying now AFTER the fact.

If I were to propose a movie with Jason Bourne (Matt Damon) vs. Liam Neeson, common sense would dictate that it would make more than any Bourne film or Taken entry would ever make on its own.

Call it the synergistic effect.

Now imagine such a Bourne x Taken film being poorly written, not representing the characters as the ones that drew in audiences and just disappointingly bad. THATS what has happened.

 

[X Knight]

Sorry guys, RTH is a poster at Box office Theory, I believe he works either for the Theater industry or one of the studios. So he gets access to Raw data which he uses to make his estimates.

They usually come out before official estimates.

He has a good track record, so people follow his numbers/posts.

thanks.

 

[InCali]

What's so stunning about it? TDK, a great movie with a lot of hype behind it made 1B. Batman Begins made 374M. Superman Returns made 391M. MOS made 668M. If this makes 850M or something, what's so stunning about it? Why does everyone think that because this movie has Superman and Batman in it, it should make over 1B dollars? It has been proven several times that these characters aren't guaranteed BO hits, even if the movies are good. This new Superman isn't particularly popular among the GA. This Batman is portrayed by a guy that a lot of people hate. It's the sequel of a movie who wasn't that well received. It's very dark and kind of depressing, in an age where most CB movies are humurous. What's so shocking about it making less than 1B? If it made 400M i would understand. But 800, 900M? I don't see anything crazy about this value. It's underwhelming, but not stunning.

I thought it would make about IM3 numbers. What was your prediction (DOM and WW....no fudging )? I felt CA:CW would come in a little bit higher, but had them in the same ballpark.

I don't think they would have sunk the kind of money they did into a movie that was going to make 800-900M, but I could be wrong. I understand why Marvel did CA and Thor. They made "some" money and set the stage for the big one (Avengers). Sup and BM are A listers and I think what people are talking about now is on the very low side of what could have been. They had a fairly good corridor without a lot of heavyweight competition.

 

[Stark Bauer]

TDK DOM numbers adjusted for inflation is more than double of BvS' domestic run. Throw in that it had no 3D, throw in that it had no China release for worldwide figures. TDK blows this movie out of the water in every financial aspect. To say that this movie is doing well is just absurd in respect to it's actual potential.


I know lol, was just making a joke!

I had a feeling lol. It's just that gif is a bit ambiguous. I mean yes he does crash but he walks away without looking like he hurt himself lol

 

[jokesonm3]

Sorry guys, RTH is a poster at Box office Theory, I believe he works either for the Theater industry or one of the studios. So he gets access to Raw data which he uses to make his estimates.

They usually come out before official estimates.

He has a good track record, so people follow his numbers/posts.

Ah, cheers.

 

[Kanon]

What's so stunning about it? TDK, a great movie with a lot of hype behind it made 1B. Batman Begins made 374M. Superman Returns made 391M. MOS made 668M. If this makes 850M or something, what's so stunning about it? Why does everyone think that because this movie has Superman and Batman in it, it should make over 1B dollars? It has been proven several times that these characters aren't guaranteed BO hits, even if the movies are good. This new Superman isn't particularly popular among the GA. This Batman is portrayed by a guy that a lot of people hate. It's the sequel of a movie who wasn't that well received. It's very dark and kind of depressing, in an age where most CB movies are humurous. What's so shocking about it making less than 1B? If it made 400M i would understand. But 800, 900M? I don't see anything crazy about this value. It's underwhelming, but not stunning.

I guess people tought that, if over 20 movies could make over 1B, some of them not ver special at all, and some other 5 of them being comic book movies (2 of those Batman movies), maybe a superhero movie with the 2 most consistently popular superheroes of all time was meant for something more.