BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - - - Part 14

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Anything less than a billion is horrible. Even though i'm not fan of MCU, they have created a juggernaut with B characters. WB has all characters of DC (which most iconic heroes & villains of comic book genre) and their "Justice League Mini" can't reach a billion?! Nolan did it with one character and no 3D money for godsake...

Once BvS is out of theaters, WB should brand Snyder like his batman.
 
This movie was supposed to make a billion plus, anyone that says otherwise is full of crap. Two of the most iconic superheroes of all time and they can't even make 900 million, it has to be stinging WB in a huge way...This weekend will be another rude awakening IMO when they lose to a horrible comedy in the box office...

They'll spin it with a press release saying it hit $300 mil domestic if it gets close to $295
 
800 WW would be ranked under the top 50 of all time.
 
I just think the studio is just trying to spin this to be higher. This is the third week and given now the hate for this movie is out there, it's going to drop even harder. I think even the trades are overestimating it. WOM travels so fast and for BVS, it's so much faster.
 
This movie was supposed to make a billion plus, anyone that says otherwise is full of crap. Two of the most iconic superheroes of all time and they can't even make 900 million, it has to be stinging WB in a huge way...This weekend will be another rude awakening IMO when they lose to a horrible comedy in the box office...

That is the whole point. They are NOT the most iconic superheroes of all time.

Not anymore. Marvel comics has been outselling DC comics for decades.

And 20 -30 year olds has grown up with Marvel and sees The Avengers iconic NOT Superman and Batman. And it's the 20-30 year olds who are the ones who are going to the movies.

And when Ironman came out with Deadpool, Antman, and GOTG...they all have nothing to lose....they were underdog movies that were good....so they blew up the way they did. No risk with ALL the rewards.

$800 million is just about right for former Icons like Supes and Bats.

$800 million is also pretty good for a movie that is 29% rotten that also split the fan base.

That kind of rottenness should be making F4 money BUT nope....it made more than half a billion.
 
That is the whole point. They are NOT the most iconic superheroes of all time.

Yes they are. Look up "iconography." Only Spider-Man and Hulk are even close to Supes and Bats in terms of iconography.
 
Ridiculous statement by Longshot, but yeah, it's a virtual flop in this day and age. It happens. They will break even in a day an age where shareholders are pressing for growth. Need Justice League to make up for this, and I wouldn't bet on it in a million years. That's why I own Disney. Proven franchises... for now. Get a director that can direct Justice League, and revitalize the HP franchise, and I might consider buying some Time Warner.
 
That is the whole point. They are NOT the most iconic superheroes of all time.

Not anymore. Marvel comics has been outselling DC comics for decades.

And 20 -30 year olds has grown up with Marvel and sees The Avengers iconic NOT Superman and Batman. And it's the 20-30 year olds who are the ones who are going to the movies.

And when Ironman came out with Deadpool, Antman, and GOTG...they all have nothing to lose....they were underdog movies that were good....so they blew up the way they did. No risk with ALL the rewards.

$800 million is just about right for former Icons like Supes and Bats.

$800 million is also pretty good for a movie that is 29% rotten that also split the fan base.

That kind of rottenness should be making F4 money BUT nope....it made more than half a billion.

Marvel fanboy, much?
 
Ridiculous statement by Longshot, but yeah, it's a virtual flop in this day and age. It happens. They will break even in a day an age where shareholders are pressing for growth. Need Justice League to make up for this, and I wouldn't bet on it in a million years. That's why I own Disney. Proven franchises... for now. Get a director that can direct Justice League, and revitalize the HP franchise, and I might consider buying some Time Warner.

You're smarter than me. I sold my Fox shares to buy more TW. Egg meet face.
 
Ridiculous statement by Longshot, but yeah, it's a virtual flop in this day and age. It happens. They will break even in a day an age where shareholders are pressing for growth. Need Justice League to make up for this, and I wouldn't bet on it in a million years. That's why I own Disney. Proven franchises... for now. Get a director that can direct Justice League, and revitalize the HP franchise, and I might consider buying some Time Warner.

Looks like HP is coming back (not into that stuff, myself), and Zack's directing Pt. 1. Different director for Pt. 2, I'm sure.
 
That is the whole point. They are NOT the most iconic superheroes of all time.
.

If you show the Superman shield or the Batman logo to anyone on planet Earth, they'll know who it represents.
 
Deadline April 8, 2016:
‘Batman V. Superman’ Likely To Cross $300M Early Next Week
Anthony D'Alessandro said:
UPDATE, 12:19 PM: Warner Bros’ Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice is now looking like it will come in lower with a decline of 50%-55% for $23.1M-$25.65M, which is just shy of the three-century mark with a running cume through its third weekend of $296.4M-$298.9M. Now, Warners wasn’t expecting the Zack Snyder film to cross $300M this weekend, but rather during CinemaCon this coming week. I hear that the magic number internally which will really make Warner execs truly happy is $800M.

Variety MARCH 16, 2016:
Why ‘Batman v Superman’ Is Still a High-Stakes Bet
James Rainey said:
In an era in which comic-book heroes dominate the box office, “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” might appear like a sure bet. Warner Bros.’ March 25 release gives fans arguably the two biggest superheroes in the fantasy constellation, serving up Ben Affleck, one of the biggest stars of his generation, as the Caped Crusader, and Henry Cavill as the Man of Steel. At the helm is Zack Snyder, the director celebrated for creating the surprise hit “300.” And the studio’s crack marketing team, known for sparing no expense, is going full tilt on its promo blitz.

The formidable intellectual property that Warners is deploying — exciting the collective memories of multiple generations of fans — inspires enormous good will and curiosity about what comes next for (as Lex Luthor would say) the Bat of Gotham and the Son of Krypton. But it also means that fans will react viscerally to characters they feel they own, expecting to have old sensibilities affirmed, even as they anticipate being dazzled by a fresh new take.

Ratcheting up the stakes is the fact that “Batman v Superman” serves as the ambassador for a whole new generation of films from Warner’s DC Entertainment unit — 10 pictures over the next five years — that are supposed to lift up Warner’s lackluster film slate and super-charge results into the foreseeable future.

“They have the chance to come out with all these other movies,” said media analyst Jessica Reif Cohen of Bank of America/Merrill Lynch. “But it makes the situation much harder; harder to win an audience, harder to market, if this one doesn’t work. … It’s pretty critical.”

The stakes have been thrown into high relief by the blockbuster success of crosstown rival Marvel Studios. The Disney subsidiary’s last six films have averaged $875 million at the global box office. If Warners could get just halfway to Marvel’s consumer products results, DC could add $150 million to Time Warner’s profits annually, a WB exec has said.

“It would be a slight exaggeration to say everything is riding on this film,” said Doug Creutz, an analyst with Cowen and Co. “But if they can’t make this sale to audiences, then they have a huge problem. They have told Wall Street they are going to grow earnings at Warner Bros. If you can’t make that franchise work, then you can’t achieve that goal.”

While expressing optimism about the film, Warner Bros. execs have tried not to push expectations any higher.

With a production cost of at least $250 million and added global marketing costs easily topping $150 million, the movie would have to gross $800 million to recoup its investment, if it were reliant just on box office (though the film will also benefit from substantial TV, merchandising and other receipts). Studio insiders consider the $800 million figure inflated.

Current tracking suggests a robust opening of at least $120 million-$140 million when the movie launches on about 4,000 screens in the U.S. One media analyst, who asked not to be named, said that given the costs and need to launch a series of future films, “anything under $1 billion in worldwide box office will be a disappointment.”

Months prior to the premiere, Affleck conceded the high stakes in an interview with Variety. “I think there is a ton of pressure on it,” said the actor, whose selection to play Batman initially rankled some diehard fans. “I mean I would be bulls—ing you to say there isn’t.”

Affleck expressed optimism the film will succeed, as did Greg Silverman, the studio’s president of creative development and worldwide production. “This film is really important to the fans,” said Silverman, “and we feel a responsibility to make sure they get what they deserve: a great film about great characters they care about as much as we do.”

“Batman v Superman” originally was slated for release last July, but in early 2014, Warner Bros. Entertainment chairman Kevin Tsujihara pushed the movie off eight months, allowing for script revisions and other changes. Studio insiders feel that the delay helped make the film better.

Tsujihara knew the calendar shift would hurt the studio’s 2015 results and, indeed, without the cinematic crusaders driving revenue, Warners suffered its worst year in recent memory, dragged down by films like “Jupiter Ascending” and “Pan” (which each lost more than $100 million) and “Man from U.N.C.L.E.” This year, it hopes, marks its comeback.

Eddy Von Mueller, a senior lecturer in the Film and Media Studies department at Emory University, said that DC has tended to produce films that lean more toward “engagement” with the world, in contrast with the more purely escapist fare produced by Marvel. Von Mueller, who has written extensively about special effects and superhero films, said that if the gritty tone of “Batman v Superman’s” trailers carries throughout the two hour, 31 minute film, “It could be a tougher sell to audiences.”
 
That is the whole point. They are NOT the most iconic superheroes of all time.

Not anymore. Marvel comics has been outselling DC comics for decades.

And 20 -30 year olds has grown up with Marvel and sees The Avengers iconic NOT Superman and Batman. And it's the 20-30 year olds who are the ones who are going to the movies.

And when Ironman came out with Deadpool, Antman, and GOTG...they all have nothing to lose....they were underdog movies that were good....so they blew up the way they did. No risk with ALL the rewards.

$800 million is just about right for former Icons like Supes and Bats.

$800 million is also pretty good for a movie that is 29% rotten that also split the fan base.

That kind of rottenness should be making F4 money BUT nope....it made more than half a billion.

Iconography has nothing to do with money and sales and everything to do with visual recognition and familiarity. Superman is by far the most recognizable fictional character known in the world. Marvel's popularity at the box office has nothing to surmount that. If you wanna have the opinion that you like Marvel's characters more, or state the fact their movies have made more money, that's warranted. But it's ridiculous to state the characters are more iconographic when they are not.
 
Marvel fanboy, much?

Actually I love DC way more than Marvel.

But most friends and people I know who are 20-30s can't stand Superman and DC. They do love Batman but rest of DC...they are not feeling.

Knowing their logos worldwide is different from actually buying up to see their movie.

Kids today are more into Avengers, Spiderman, Xmen, and Now Deadpool.

To them DC is passé.

I strongly disagree with them but we are living in the new millennium.

Ok then, I was wrong about the ICONOGRAPHY part. But being icons, doesn't equate to box office sales to millennials who are into Marvel more.
 
'Batman v Superman: Dawn Of Justice' Will Likely Earn Less Profit Than 'Man Of Steel
Kevin Jagernauth said:
Oh, boy. As much as Warner Bros. grits their teeth in the face of savage reviews and withering box office for "Batman v Superman: Dawn Of Justice," if it's not a failure, then the film is certainly on its way to being a disappointment. The picture which cost at least $250 million (some estimates put that figure around $300 million, not including marketing and promotion) was supposed to be a billion dollar blockbuster, which would turn a healthy profit for the studio once it hit that figure. Right now, that mark looks unlikely, and it's going to affect the bottom line in an embarrassing way.

Bloomberg got SNL Kagan analyst Wade Holden to do some number crunching, and counting home video and merchandising revenue, "Batman v Superman: Dawn Of Justice" will wind up earning $278 million in profit for the studio, a bit below the $300 million in profit "Man In Steel" turned around.

Bear in mind, "Man Of Steel" cost less ($225 million) and even earned less at the worldwide box office ($668 million), and yet, it comes out as the movie that earned more green. It probably doesn't need to be stressed, but when you make a movie featuring two of the biggest superheroes ever known, you expect it's going to do massive numbers, not scraping by to hopefully catchup with the same profit potential as its predecessor. To match "Man Of Steel" in terms of profits, 'Dawn Of Justice' will need to earn $1.15 billion worldwide, but that's simply not going to happen.
 
I'm wondering if Marvel allowing the Civil War social media embargoes and reviews to be released this early is going to have any affect on BvS box office.
 
I'm wondering if Marvel allowing the Civil War social media embargoes and reviews to be released this early is going to have any affect on BvS box office.

Have they?
 
They are super confident in that film.
 
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