The Winter Soldier certainly handed hand to hand combat as it should be in a superhero film... it was way over to top, but that's how exactly how it should be. The deal with superheroes is that they should make characters like Jason Bourne feel helpless victims.
And you can only get that by getting crazy, forgetting reality and making your characters do insane stuff.
Batman does that in comics, animated films, the Arkham games... but he didn't on the Dark Knight Trilogy, if Jason Bourne was there, he would wipe the floor with Bats.
The style he used in the movie looked a bit like a style of Krav Maga. I think Krav Maga has some good stuff in it, but I don't think it is the ultimate style of martial arts or anything, but it looks good enough on film. I really would like that Batman used something more aggressive and brutal. I don't care if all the fighting is done by a stuntman but I'd like fighting that will make those of us who are martial artists go "ooh that was nice", and not the general audience. Getting the general audience to go "oh wow" is easy. Getting us practitioners of martial arts to go "oh wow" is a very different thing. I think if you try to impress those who know martial arts, then if we are impressed, the general audience will be impressed because they know less than us.
I wouldn't want to see him use Krav Maga or anything that we have seen in mainstream Hollywood. I think Silat (Denzel in Book of Eli) would look good for Batman, Kuntao of course (which has NEVER been used in a movie) would be amazing. If you are not familiar with it, try and find some on YouTube and you will see what I mean. It is so fast that the general audience would miss the majority of the strikes, but then again, they would be impressed with seeing some of the "finishing" strikes.
Great post Superman 200.
Master Scott references always get my seal.
Thank you, I mentioned Master Savelli earlier I but I think a lot of people could not catch everything that was happening. Here is a bit of Savelli for those of you who understand explosion in martial arts and the quickness and power.
[YT]watch?v=6mcqb3LO_OQ[/YT]
If some of you understand this, I am sure you will be impressed with the videos below!
[YT]watch?v=CCwNeg2-Ob8[/YT]
[YT]watch?v=9zKGx-HWIvU[/YT]
To the general audience, the speed would be a moment of "what was that?" and would only be impressed by some of the slower heavier hits, but to the ones that know, the speed of it and explosion would impress them. General audiences are easier to impress, they are impressed with Krav Maga which is okay, but they don't see the difference between Neeson doing Krav Maga and Denzel doing Silat in Book of Eli.
People think big and muscular and all that is what is important, when in reality, Master Scott or Master Savelli would destroy any person of any size while not being big or scary looking or anything.