The Dark Knight Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Azrael13]

enough of this fanboy crap!

there is only one fanboy and that's sergio's

on sale now at your local comic store

 

[Super_Ludacris]

This is dumb. You are literally the only person I have ever met who has tried to argue batman does not wear lenses (contact or otherwise), noting of course that I haven't read htis entire topic and some other poor soul may have made the same ridiculous argument. In any case, continuity facts + common sense = Batman wears lenses. The saddest thing is that you dismiss our "few examples" even though they vastly outweigh your zero examples..

This nulls your argument look back and you'll see why I say the white eye look cant be lenses even if a few cases it has shown otherwise and myself others gave examples plus used other characters who have the same eye look. Oh dear...

I never said I want lenses on film. Ninety percent of the lense manips look dumb.

Then why argue for the sake of arguing? lol... I too see peoples points but I've calmly explained why it dont work even if they put up a good case. Again read the whole thread before you crash in like the Kool Aid Man lol

 

[patrickbateman]

feels good

 

[Saint]

This nulls your argument look back and you'll see why I say the white eye look cant be lenses even if a few cases it has shown otherwise and myself others gave examples plus used other characters who have the same eye look. Oh dear...

Slick, it doesn't matter what silly explainations you've concocted. The comics state they are lenses, so it doesn't matter what YOU think. More importantly, I am not talking about "other characters" with the white eye look. I am talking about Batman, who wears lenses. Your argument is just silly, very much like those people who argue thast Batman doesn't wear body armour, despite the explicit statements in the comics to the contrary. Sure, in the seventies it could have been assumed that the white eyes were artistic license, just like it was accepted that Batman wore spandex. But we are not in the seventies. In 2006, Batman wears lenses and there's really not argument against that.

Then why argue for the sake of arguing? lol... I too see peoples points but I've calmly explained why it dont work even if they put up a good case.

You're wrong, that's why. It doesn't matter if you think they "don't work." I don't think heat vision "works," but that doesn't prevent Superman from having it.

 

[Boom]

Super, I'd like to point out that you're the only one in this topic who refuses to believe that Batman wears lenses in the comics.

Doesn't that tell you something?

 

[Masut]

Super, I'd like to point out that you're the only one in this topic who refuses to believe that Batman wears lenses in the comics.

Doesn't that tell you something?

He has been the most stubborn. Personally I'm happy with how the batsuit is right now, but I'm always open to change too. I just enjoy picturing a lensed version of the cowl. I think it could easily work.

 

[darknight7]

Fanboy-someone who gets upset easily or has gotta be grouchy about it.
A fan-Keeps it chill and considers all sides.

Like I said in my posts, the whole debate over the white eye look is something that goes beyond Batman, because it seems like a lot of animated characters have it but never really bothered to explain whether they were lenses or an artistic touch to show intimidation (early TMNT anyone?) but even with the explination when you weigh up both sides it just. feels. forced. You argued your point well but putting an animated look on a live action character seems forced, hence why we've see there's road block on every reason for it.

Fair?

Ya that is fair

( I just think it is dumb to fight. We are all Batman fans, here to talk about Batman stuff. Let's all just be coooool )

--dk7

 

[Keyser Sushi]

While I don't think there should be lenses in the movies, I can point you to one comic book cover that proves he has been represented, in the comics, as wearing lenses:

 

[batmaluco]

Why to use lenses when we have Christian Bale? We can get the best of both worlds...

 

[El Payaso]

 

[Mr. Vice]

Why to use lenses when we have Christian Bale? We can get the best of both worlds...

Exactly...

 

[Sandman138]

I like the idea of making the suit more Art Deco rather than technical. The less Batman looks like a man in a suit, the better. No lenses though, lenses are bad.

 

[BatScot]

Yeah, and he'd also probably find it cumbersome to fight his way through the fog that develops on the inside of the lenses (which incidently would be impossible to wipe off without taking his mask off) as he generates massive amounts of contained heat and moisture while fighing inside that suit.

But hey, I mean why worry about that?

There's no need to worry because there’s nothing to worry about, especially for a billionaire CEO vigilante whose company dabbles in exotic defense contracts. The fact is; fogging is no longer an issue in this modern age, for example:

Wiley X Eyewear's The NERVE™

“The Nerve boasts a US patent pending symmetrical venting system with Top Down™ ventilation and foil lens coating which allows this goggle to be fog free at all times.”
http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/personal/protective/

“... this sleek, modern ballistic goggle incorporates the latest lens technology from Wiley X in a streamlined, easy to carry size that fits easily in a jacket pocket or attached to a belt. Wiley X's NERVE features the unique Top Down™ Ventilation System, ensuring the user a fog-free environment. Wiley X Eyewear is standard issue for the FBI, DEA, Army Rangers, Navy SEALs and other elite Special Forces units.”
http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/personal/protective/press3.html

It’s simply a matter of proper design and fit, and if it can be done in the real world, then surely ‘Batman’ can fashion some reasonable facsimile.

Now I can understand why you might rail against white eyelets, but the idea of lenses/goggles is perfectly consistent with the ‘protective’ Bat-suit explanation that Nolan has put forth and there is simply no refuting that fact.

 

[Ronny Shade]

nice caps/shots batmaluco

this issue is not whether the lenses will fog. It's that Bale's Batman is not the distant cold-hearted batman, he's the firey vengeance batman. He needs his eyes.

 

[BatScot]

nice caps/shots batmaluco

What these shots show is that the white eye look actually works pretty well (which comes as a bit of a surprise to me). But having said that, these are still images and single frame caps that do not represent the look of the moving figure, i.e., what you see in these pics is not readily apparent in the film—it’s just a trick of the eyes

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Slick, it doesn't matter what silly explainations you've concocted. The comics state they are lenses, so it doesn't matter what YOU think. More importantly, I am not talking about "other characters" with the white eye look. I am talking about Batman, who wears lenses. Your argument is just silly, very much like those people who argue thast Batman doesn't wear body armour, despite the explicit statements in the comics to the contrary. Sure, in the seventies it could have been assumed that the white eyes were artistic license, just like it was accepted that Batman wore spandex. But we are not in the seventies. In 2006, Batman wears lenses and there's really not argument against that..

So like I said before, if in the 70's as you said it wasnt implied or it was assumed he did not wear lenses then what's the point? (that's like a whole 40 years backlog). We're saying recently he wore lenses? Ok I'll take a bite at that, but then only people who have been hard core Batman fans would know that. Immeadietly, the causal fan is gonna look at the white lenses and be like.
And yeah, loads of people are gonna use other characters as example like it or not. It's just the natural way people are gonna connect things. And let's keep it real people the WB and Nolan are gonna have the exact same reservations towards including the white lenses. It goes back to the same point: It feels FORCED..

You're wrong, that's why. It doesn't matter if you think they "don't work." I don't think heat vision "works," but that doesn't prevent Superman from having it

Superman's heat vision is such a basic trait to the character that it's obvious. In Batman's case because the white lenses have never been detailed to the extent of being a basic trait (as exemplified by there lack of apperance in all his live-action incarnations) it's not needed and again the average fan will think it's over-bearing.

Fair? No Question.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

 

[Masut]

So like I said before, if in the 70's as you said it wasnt implied or it was assumed he did not wear lenses then what's the point? (that's like a whole 40 years backlog). We're saying recently he wore lenses? Ok I'll take a bite at that, but then only people who have been hard core Batman fans would know that. Immeadietly, the causal fan is gonna look at the white lenses and be like.
And yeah, loads of people are gonna use other characters as example like it or not. It's just the natural way people are gonna connect things. And let's keep it real people the WB and Nolan are gonna have the exact same reservations towards including the white lenses. It goes back to the same point: It feels FORCED..




Superman's heat vision is such a basic trait to the character that it's obvious. In Batman's case because the white lenses have never been detailed to the extent of being a basic trait (as exemplified by there lack of apperance in all his live-action incarnations) it's not needed and again the average fan will think it's over-bearing.

Fair? No Question.

Use the FORCE.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Batman wants to scare criminals. He'd be a lot scarier with white eyes. Freaking goth kids have scarier eyes on Halloween.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Use the FORCE.

Batman>>> Star Wars

All day, every day Pimpin

 

[ultimatefan]

I like the current suit, but it´d be nice to see something less hi-tech and more like the design of the 89 bodysuit.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Now that's some changes I can see.

 

[MoPlaYa]

Happy 420 to everyone at the Hype!!

 

[Super_Ludacris]

What? lol ok....

 

[BatScot]

Superman's heat vision is such a basic trait to the character that it's obvious. In Batman's case... the white lenses have never been detailed to the extent of being a basic trait

Except, of course, for the fact that white eyelets have been part of the ‘Batman’ archetype—in one form or another—since his inception in 1939! Superman’s heat vision, on the other hand, was a later addition that did not become a distinct trait until the 1960's, some twenty years after that character’s origin.