Baywatch: The movie! - Part 1

[Dark Raven]

You don't get that outside of indie movies.

I'm pretty sure there have been full frontal for women in mainstream movies, but not showing actual genitals. In The English Patient, from about 20 years ago, Kristin Scott Thomas was shown getting into a bathtub fully nude.

Not sure if Heaven's Prisoners was considered an indie or mainstream though, but that featured Teri Hatcher full frontal, if I recall correctly.

 

[scarlet-witch]

The entire movie has hot 20/30 somethings running around in low cut tops and swim suits. I think we're allowed what, .02 seconds of dong without causing an uproar?

 

[TheVileOne]

It's not even genuine male nudity. It's clearly some sort of prop.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The entire movie has hot 20/30 somethings running around in low cut tops and swim suits. I think we're allowed what, .02 seconds of dong without causing an uproar?

Not when it seems some are legitimately afraid of seeing a man's penis.

 

[terry78]

I'm afraid of my own.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm pretty sure there have been full frontal for women in mainstream movies, but not showing actual genitals. In The English Patient, from about 20 years ago, Kristin Scott Thomas was shown getting into a bathtub fully nude.

Not sure if Heaven's Prisoners was considered an indie or mainstream though, but that featured Teri Hatcher full frontal, if I recall correctly.

Says pretty sure, then proceeds to give two examples.

 

[Dark Raven]

Says pretty sure, then proceeds to give two examples.

That's because there was a bit of a time delay between my first sentence and the others, in which I had forgotten what I said at the beginning while remembering some examples, so it came out like that.

 

[jfurioso]

It's not even genuine male nudity. It's clearly some sort of prop.

Well, considering the widespread use of cosmetic surgery and body doubles, we can say the same about any sort of nudity.

Really, I have no problem with this. If it is for laughs, I just expect it to be funny. If it is for titillation, hey, I am sure someone will appreciate it, if not me, as I appreciate that which works for me and not for others.

Vive la différence!

 

[Warhammer]

I'm bummed that this movie is supposed to suck. I was hoping for it to be at least half as good as the 21 Jump Street films.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I'll be seeing this tonight with a few beers in hand at my local Alamo Drafthouse. I'm hoping to at least get a few chuckles out of it.

 

[BeserkerHilf]

I'm bummed that this movie is supposed to suck. I was hoping for it to be at least half as good as the 21 Jump Street films.

According to my Facebook feed, I'm a very cynical person when it comes to movies. I saw this the other night, had a blast watching it because everyone genuinely wanted to be in the movie and it shows. The Rock really brings out the best in the cast.

We really need to be reminded that not every movie we saw growing up was a four-quadrant winner or some arthouse masterpiece. Baywatch isn't a great movie, but it's a fun movie at the very least. If you're expecting anything more from Baywatch, you really need to adjust your expectations.

 

[MadVillainy]

I kinda hate that excuse "it's not supposed to be a masterpiece"
Literally no one was expecting it to. They were at least expecting it to be funny, which reviewers and some other people said it was not

 

[Warhammer]

I kinda hate that excuse "it's not supposed to be a masterpiece"
Literally no one was expecting it to. They were at least expecting it to be funny, which reviewers and some other people said it was not

I agree. It is a cop out excuse that some use to justify that someone liked a film. More power to you if your opinion is contrary to the critics. We all have films we like that weren't well received or "guilty pleasures".

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I kinda hate that excuse "it's not supposed to be a masterpiece"
Literally no one was expecting it to. They were at least expecting it to be funny, which reviewers and some other people said it was not

The only problem I have with this theory, is you then have to apply it to all movies. In which case, doesn't that mean all movies are at least "fun" if you adjust your expectations accordingly?

 

[P Supreme]

Can it be Dwayne Johnson Fatigue?

 

[Rowsdower!]

Shame this is getting such bad reviews. But I feel like this and CHiPs failing are an indication that maybe the "Jump Street" formula doesn't work as well as studios think it does. I honestly didn't even think it worked that well in Jump Street. I never found those movies to be that good and I would posit that if they were released today, they might not be welcomed with such a positive reception. Maybe I'm just biased though. I can't stand Jonah Hill.

 

[P Supreme]

Shame this is getting such bad reviews. But I feel like this and CHiPs failing are an indication that maybe the "Jump Street" formula doesn't work as well as studios think it does. I honestly didn't even think it worked that well in Jump Street. I never found those movies to be that good and I would posit that if they were released today, they might not be welcomed with such a positive reception. Maybe I'm just biased though. I can't stand Jonah Hill.

I think he is the reason those movies do well he carries Tatem in those movies IMO

 

[Rowsdower!]

Eh, maybe, I don't know. But Hill only seems to have two characters: 1. Loud, abrasive jerk (Superbad) or 2. Mild mannered dork (Moneyball, Jump Street). I know critics love him for some reason but I've never understood his appeal.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Hill's a very good actor. I find it hard to imagine thinking he isn't after Wolf of Wall Street.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Shame this is getting such bad reviews. But I feel like this and CHiPs failing are an indication that maybe the "Jump Street" formula doesn't work as well as studios think it does. I honestly didn't even think it worked that well in Jump Street. I never found those movies to be that good and I would posit that if they were released today, they might not be welcomed with such a positive reception. Maybe I'm just biased though. I can't stand Jonah Hill.

Whether you like them or not, those movies work because you had filmmakers that understood their own idea and didn't cynically say, "This worked for that, so we'll do it for this."

The first movie is pretty brilliant in what it did. It took this zany idea, used a pre-established property and made it into its own thing and worked on those terms. Now it's arguably more known than the show that put Johnny Depp on the map.

 

[TheVileOne]

Jump Street didn't invent the formula though.

We've been seeing comedic send-ups of classic TV dramas for some time. The Starsky and Hutch movie came out eight years before 21 Jump Street. Also the Charlie's Angels films.

With Miami Vice, Michael Mann opted to make a straight-up gritty cop drama instead of a comedic take.

 

[MadVillainy]

Shame this is getting such bad reviews. But I feel like this and CHiPs failing are an indication that maybe the "Jump Street" formula doesn't work as well as studios think it does. I honestly didn't even think it worked that well in Jump Street. I never found those movies to be that good and I would posit that if they were released today, they might not be welcomed with such a positive reception. Maybe I'm just biased though. I can't stand Jonah Hill.

Whether you like it or not, it did work because general consensus is that those movies are at the least good and they made money.

What I'm confused about tho...why did it take so long. 21 Jump Street came out 5 years ago, 2014 was when 22 Jump Street dropped. Why wait 3 years to cash in on the trend?

Also on that note, imo 22 Jump Street is the last great comedy to me. Even the comedies I've liked since then haven't gotten even close to that. I mean there is the Nice Guys which I loved but thats a different kind of comedy.

Comedy this year looks dismal. After this there's The House which could be pretty funny but that's about it

Hill's a very good actor. I find it hard to imagine thinking he isn't after Wolf of Wall Street.

I know right?
He's given some top notch performances. Even War Dogs which was an okay movie he was really really good in that.

Jump Street didn't invent the formula though.

We've been seeing comedic send-ups of classic TV dramas for some time. The Starsky and Hutch movie came out eight years before 21 Jump Street. Also the Charlie's Angels films.

With Miami Vice, Michael Mann opted to make a straight-up gritty cop drama instead of a comedic take.

Jump Street didn't even it but it's the most recent, financially successful, and critically acclaimed other than Star Trek, Mission Impossible, and The FUgitive. That's why we got things like CHiPs and Baywatch this year.

 

[Dark Raven]

Jump Street didn't invent the formula though.

We've been seeing comedic send-ups of classic TV dramas for some time. The Starsky and Hutch movie came out eight years before 21 Jump Street. Also the Charlie's Angels films.

With Miami Vice, Michael Mann opted to make a straight-up gritty cop drama instead of a comedic take.

Starksy and Hutch wasn't such a raunchy comedy though.

I don't think remakes always need to be comedies to send up the originals. There's no reason Miami Vice needs to be a comedy. I would've liked a more serious Starsky and Hutch in the tone of the early episodes from the first season rather than one which had more of the tone of the light-hearted fourth season. Early Starsky and Hutch was closer to movies like Dirty Harry and had that great Lalo Schiffrin score.

Jump Street was probably more of a blank slate to work with than something like Baywatch. It's harder to use the same approach on a more well-known property.

 

[MadVillainy]

Starksy and Hutch wasn't such a raunchy comedy though.

I don't think remakes always need to be comedies to send up the originals. There's no reason Miami Vice needs to be a comedy. I would've liked a more serious Starsky and Hutch in the tone of the early episodes from the first season rather than one which had more of the tone of the light-hearted fourth season. Early Starsky and Hutch was closer to movies like Dirty Harry and had that great Lalo Schiffrin score.

Jump Street was probably more of a blank slate to work with than something like Baywatch. It's harder to use the same approach on a more well-known property.

Baywatch couldve (I havent seen it yet maybe I'll like it) worked great as a comedy. In fact making a straight faced Baywatch is a recipe for disaster.

They didn't even have to be completely meta with it. 21 Jump Street had a few jokes but wasn't really meta until the 2nd movie. They just shouldn't have been so juvenile with this.

Again I havent seen this yet, but I knew from the trailers that Baywatch was either going to be really bad or really good. No inbetween. But when the dialougue was so...eh
"This is my beach, b***h"
"This is Baywatch, you p***y"
"Make sure my package looks huge"
I just knew this was probably gonna be some "Middle Schooler Who just learned how to swear" type antics

They have a good cast or at least The Rock and Efron are funny dudes. I can't say anything about anyone else in the cast. But they seemed to have squandered it

 

[TheVileOne]

Starksy and Hutch wasn't such a raunchy comedy though.

I don't think remakes always need to be comedies to send up the originals. There's no reason Miami Vice needs to be a comedy. I would've liked a more serious Starsky and Hutch in the tone of the early episodes from the first season rather than one which had more of the tone of the light-hearted fourth season. Early Starsky and Hutch was closer to movies like Dirty Harry and had that great Lalo Schiffrin score.

Jump Street was probably more of a blank slate to work with than something like Baywatch. It's harder to use the same approach on a more well-known property.

Is raunchy and R-rated the only criteria here?

FYI 21 Jump Street was a popular TV show for its time. It made Johnny Depp a teen idol. It was on for five seasons and over 100 episodes.