Apocalypse Ben Hardy Joins the Cast of ‘X-Men: Apocalypse’

[GuestStar2004]

Singer has already spoken out about hoping people will just forget about certain things like Charles and Eric meeting at 17

 

[Avenging Angel]

But every Cherik scene is memorable.

 

[Mutant 77]

Despite his limited role, Angel was way more noticeable. They also showcased him a lot in marketing like posters and trailers. Psylocke and Jubilee both had a blink and you miss it roles in the films that they appeared in. So its different in a way.

Not a problem.

Just forget the time stamps in The Last Stand. They should remove those for future blu-ray releases.

 

[Super Jim]

^ What and just pretend that Angel in the 2006 Last Stand movie was what, around 40 years old?

He was 20 something at best, with or without the "10 years earlier" timestamp. Yes, this is similar to the whole old Moira versus young Moira thing, but that's what we're talking about.

Fox just can't seem to stick to a working timeline. They just disregard whatever they want, whenever they want, and that's just wrong.

 

[Avenging Angel]

The timeline essentially matters. I don't believe the audience thought Angel was 40. I think it was odd to include him in the line up given his canon origin that didn't link up with the movie's time frame. Maybe they're getting it right now.

 

[Mutant 77]

^ What and just pretend that Angel in the 2006 Last Stand movie was what, around 40 years old?

He was 20 something at best, with or without the "10 years earlier" timestamp. Yes, this is similar to the whole old Moira versus young Moira thing, but that's what we're talking about.

Fox just can't seem to stick to a working timeline. They just disregard whatever they want, whenever they want, and that's just wrong.

The original cast was supposed to be 40 too.
X1 and X2 are set in 2005.

Cinematic mutants age slower and better.

In 2023 they looked still younger than the age they were supposed to have. Xavier is born in 1932...

 

[Mutant 77]

"10 years earlier"

Was this the exact timestamp anyway? You can interpret that as "10 years before the Jean Grey flashback".

 

[psylockolussus]

Not a problem.

Just forget the time stamps in The Last Stand. They should remove those for future blu-ray releases.

They won't.

 

[Majik1387]

Not sure why time stamps are even being used. I can't remember anywhere in X1 or X2 that gave a specific time stamp for what was going when, other than the opening with Erik in the concentration camp.

The time aspect has always been malleable and doesn't have to follow our real world timeline at all.

 

[Super Jim]

And you just summarized the difference between what Fox does and what Marvel does.

Marvel sets things in the present, which works. Yes, we got to see a little bit of stuff in the past in Antman with Hank Pym in WW2, but it worked. Yes, we got to see some WW2 stuff in Captain America, First Avenger and even some post WW2 stuff in Agent Carter, but again, it worked and there were absolutely no timeline issues.

Fox can't seem to get this right. Yes, they needed to use the WW2 timeline for Magneto, as that is so critical to who he is, but they kind of messed up things from there. So many timeline issues which doesn't make sense for this movieverse. After DoFP I held out a lot of hope that they would take the effort to fix these things going forward, but it appears that that is not the case.

Yes, we can forget timestamps and disregard characters having been in prior movies, and get over a 20 year gap between brothers who should be a couple of years apart and reversed, and pretend that a 20 something character was 40 and that a 30 something character was what, 65, but the point is we shouldn't have to! Singer, Kinberg and Fox could get this right if they just tried!!!!!

 

[Majik1387]

Or everyone can stop overreacting cuz it doesn't matter and it's not gonna change.

 

[Super Jim]

No one is expecting it to change, since Fox (Singer and Kinberg) doesn't seem to care. That doesn't mean it's not important, nor that it "doesn't matter".

To me, and I'm sure plenty of others, maintaining a logical, appropriate timeline in the X-Men movieverse does indeed matter.

 

[Kermit_The_Frog]

Or everyone can stop overreacting cuz it doesn't matter and it's not gonna change.

This. I really don't get why it's a huge problem.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

Can't believe there is no leaked photo of him in costume or from the set...

 

[The Guard]

I don't really see Angel's differing ages as an issue.

It could easily be explained as his parents having him earlier, perhaps due to a change in the way mutants are perceived/received in society. Think about it, if people hate and fear mutants and they're not so "underground" like in the original trilogy, Warren Worthington II wouldn't have spent quite so much time working on a cure, and would have more time to devote to umm...Worthingtoning.

Once you get past the "alternate timeline" thing, it's really a non-issue.

 

[Super Jim]

We've already explained a few times now how the events of the timeline could have only changed post 1973, due to DoFP. Anything prior to 1973 would be the same as the original timeline.

For Warren Worthington III to be say 18 or 20 in 1983, which seems about right based on the set photos and the actor, he would have had to have been worn in say the mid 1960's. That doesn't work! If he was born in say 1974 because of DoFP, even though the whole one egg/one sperm concept goes against this possibility, he would only be 8 or 9 years old in 1983!!!

 

[The Guard]

Oh. Then maybe the events of FIRST CLASS changed things.

(Shrugs)

 

[Avenging Angel]

Can't believe there is no leaked photo of him in costume or from the set...

I thought Singer would have teased that by now.

 

[Avenging Angel]

We've already explained a few times now how the events of the timeline could have only changed post 1973, due to DoFP. Anything prior to 1973 would be the same as the original timeline.

For Warren Worthington III to be say 18 or 20 in 1983, which seems about right based on the set photos and the actor, he would have had to have been worn in say the mid 1960's. That doesn't work! If he was born in say 1974 because of DoFP, even though the whole one egg/one sperm concept goes against this possibility, he would only be 8 or 9 years old in 1983!!!

The timeline only got messed with in XMFC and XMTLS. I think when the movie gets closer to coming out the obsession with the timelines will die down. Plus it hurts my head and part of me doesn't care so long as the costume/action looks rad and the character gets justice he deserves on screen. Though I understand why people care so much.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Singer sorta has teased him a couple of times with the concept art and air guitar photo

 

[xrs13]

As hard as it may be for us little fan guys and girls. It is probably better to view these films from the point of view of a general audience member. They don't care who this new Angel is because X3 came out over 6 years ago. They may care from now but not about something like the age of Angel.

 

[Avenging Angel]

Singer, Kinberg and Fox could get this right if they just tried!!!!!

But getting specific details right is just as important as choosing to make the costumes black.

 

[Mutant 77]

We've already explained a few times now how the events of the timeline could have only changed post 1973, due to DoFP. Anything prior to 1973 would be the same as the original timeline.

For Warren Worthington III to be say 18 or 20 in 1983, which seems about right based on the set photos and the actor, he would have had to have been worn in say the mid 1960's. That doesn't work! If he was born in say 1974 because of DoFP, even though the whole one egg/one sperm concept goes against this possibility, he would only be 8 or 9 years old in 1983!!!

No problem. Delete the timestamps in The Last Stand. Plus, mutants age slower and better than humans. Fixed.

 

[Majik1387]

DoFP already deleted all of X3; timestamps included.

 

[JP]

DoFP already deleted all of X3; timestamps included.

Someday we'll all understand.