Apocalypse Ben Hardy Joins the Cast of ‘X-Men: Apocalypse’

[xrs13]

I guess it's not that obvious, JP.

Carry on. I don't want to ruin something they probably are not ready for people to find out. I only mentioned it as I thought it was obvious.

You can't say that dude. PM me if its something that would be spoilery but I cannot for the life of me think what.

 

[Mars123]

Guys some of you need to look up the Berlin Wall and the Cold War, it's xmen using history all over again, if angel is flying people over the wall it's not that spoilerish at all.

People were trying to leave East Berlin (controlled by soviet Russia) to go west allied west) to find freedom and prosperity, it makes perfect sense for him to fly people west!

 

[Avenging Angel]

Continuity doesn't make a strong story. If it's the choice between a good story or adhering to continuity to characters that didn't matter, give me the good story.

This. At this point I don't care as long it's delivered to the tilt. So far, it's building nicely for him.

 

[JP]

You can't say that dude. PM me if its something that would be spoilery but I cannot for the life of me think what.

Where is Berlin?

 

[EnDz0n3]

I assume they're staying true to real world events, and the Berlin Wall went down in 89. I don't see how 1984 East Berlin is obvious. And instead of being all "teehee they don't know!" maybe you could actually explain what you're referring to.

That's certainly one approach to getting someone to share with you: insulting them.

Lemme know how that goes!

 

[CyclopsSummers]

I dont see why the 2 have to be mutually exclusive. Why cant the film have a good story and fit within continuity? Why does it have to be one or the other

We have the concept of "double characters" in this saga. Fed up wtih that. Emma, Psylocke, angel, Jubilee, Deadpool ...

Emma Frost First Class and Emma Origins = 2 different characters.
Psycloke apocalypse and Psylocke TLS = 2 different characters. That ridiculous cameo cant be Betsy Braddock fighting with psyblade
Jubilee apocalypse and Jubilee OT = WTF. They cant be the same character
Angel Apocalypse and Angel TLS = same character. Just forget "10 years ago" mentionned
Wade from Origins and Wade in Deadpool 2016 = 2 different characters. Wade was mutant with superabilities in Origins. This Wade 2016 isnt mutant.

 

[Mutant 77]

Wade from Origins and Wade in Deadpool 2016 = 2 different characters. Wade was mutant with superabilities in Origins. This Wade 2016 isnt mutant.

You're wrong on this.

It's 100% the same character, the same guy. X-MEN ORIGINS is still part of the canon of Timeline Prime, the one not altered by the events of DOFP (early 1973).

As you already know, the timeline has been altered, but we're dealing with the same Wade Wilson. His background past prior to 1973 (DOFP) is supposed to be exactly the same as before. His original mutant powers (super reflexes and precision that he uses while fighting with blades/swords) are still in there.

He was never part of the TEAM X William Stryker assembled in late 1973, the squad Logan quitted in 1975, two years later. This means in 1981 he was never turned into WEAPON XI/"THE DEAD POOL" (optical blast, teleport ability, regenerative factor, adamantium blades/skeleton, brainwashed cyborg brain, stitched mouth).

About his age, in the X-Men cinematic universe mutants - all mutants - age slower and better than humans. Not on the level of Wolverine and Mystique, of course.

 

[jed]

Kind of disappointed that we will first see Angel in a fight club/ring.

I thought that has been done before. Wolverine in X1.

I was hoping that Singer will come up with new creative ways to introduce Angel.

 

[merbass]

I bet Angel from X3 would be ignored entirely.

 

[En Sabah Nur]

Cable should be in this movie

 

[CyclopsSummers]

If Cable is in x-men movieverse I think he wont be Cyclops'son.

As you already know, the timeline has been altered, but we're dealing with the same Wade Wilson. His background past prior to 1973 (DOFP) is supposed to be exactly the same as before. His original mutant powers (super reflexes and precision that he uses while fighting with blades/swords) are still in there.


About his age, in the X-Men cinematic universe mutants - all mutants - age slower and better than humans. Not on the level of Wolverine and Mystique, of course.

Where can we see new Wade 2016 is mutant
Where can we see mutants age slower and better than humans

I bet Angel from X3 would be ignored entirely.

Angel TLS isnt ignored. Events from otirginal tirlogy are canons but altered, Angel'Ben foster is mentioned in 25moments

I was hoping that Singer will come up with new creative ways to introduce Angel.

Warren is son of billionaire What the s***** is he doing in fight club

 

[Majik1387]

If Cable is in x-men movieverse I think he wont be Cyclops'son.

And why is that?

Where can we see new Wade 2016 is mutant

In the upcoming Deadpool movie

Where can we see mutants age slower and better than humans

In the movies.

Angel TLS isnt ignored.

Yes he is. Different actor, different age, different time era, etc. TLS Angel is gone forever.

Events from otirginal tirlogy are canons but altered,

Only the events Singer chooses to keep

Angel'Ben foster is mentioned in 25moments

In what?

Warren is son of billionaire What the s***** is he doing in fight club

Getting his rocks off? Paying back a debt that can't be covered with money? Hunting down someone vigilante style incognito?
Gonna have to watch the movie to find out.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Angel TLS isnt ignored. Events from otirginal tirlogy are canons but altered, Angel'Ben foster is mentioned in 25moments

But who says 25 moments is actually canon? its was put together for DOFP marketing so its nothing that can't be ignored

Warren is son of billionaire What the s***** is he doing in fight club

Maybe this version isn't, i doubt his background will get a mention tbh

 

[Havok83]

Warren is son of billionaire What the s***** is he doing in fight club

being rich doesnt preclude someone from being in a fight club. Maybe he gets off on violence

 

[CyclopsSummers]

Yes he is. Different actor, different age, different time era, etc. TLS Angel is gone forever.

As Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Kurt .... from OT are gone forever.

In the upcoming Deadpool movie

Wrong. He isnt mentionned as a mutant in this upcoming movie.



25 moments viral site mentions Angel being killed by Sentinels in 2011.

 

[Mutant 77]

In the cinematic universe, Wade Wilson is a mutant with super-agility and reflexes by default.

About Angel:

1965: Warren Worthington III is born.
1975: Warren cuts his wings. TLS flashback scene.
2006: The Last Stand. In the end, Angel joins the X-Men and flies over the city.

About the new timeline:

1983: Angel becomes Archangel.

 

[Havok83]

Warren was not in his 40s in the original timeline. He was born in the 80s

 

[Majik1387]

As Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Kurt .... from OT are gone forever.

Cyclops, Jean, and Storm? No. They don't have the same X1-3 story, or it's altered, but considering they are in the DoFP ending scene, they are not gone forever.
Kurt however, yes, his X2 character is gone. Some details and character traits are being reused, but X2 Nightcrawler is gone.

Wrong. He isnt mentionned as a mutant in this upcoming movie.

He was mutant in Wolverine Origins. The new timeline may mess around with ages, but they haven't changed humans to mutants or vice versa.

25 moments viral site mentions Angel being killed by Sentinels in 2011.

No idea what you're referring to.

In the cinematic universe, Wade Wilson is a mutant with super-agility and reflexes by default.

Nope.

About Angel:

1965: Warren Worthington III is born.
1975: Warren cuts his wings. TLS flashback scene.
2006: The Last Stand. In the end, Angel joins the X-Men and flies over the city.

No, Ben Foster's Angel was in no way 40 years old. Foster himself was 26, so I'd say Angel would be in that same age range, especially based on the time stamps of kid Angel trying to cut off his wings.

About the new timeline:

1983: Angel becomes Archangel.

Why 1983 of all years?

 

[GuestStar2004]

Something that has to be remembered about the 25 moments viral site is that it was done before worked started on apocalypse and once they did start work on apocalypse thats when decisions are made based on the characters so its likely 25 moments does not count

 

[CyclopsSummers]

In the cinematic universe, Wade Wilson is a mutant with super-agility and reflexes by default.

That is the Wade from Origins. In Deadpool 2016, Wade as same as Vanessa and Angel Dust are not referred as mutants. Negasonic and Colossus may be the only mutants. In the cinematic universe, we found 2 characterizations of Jubilee, Emma, and Deadpool.

Cyclops, Jean, and Storm? No. They don't have the same X1-3 story, or it's altered, but considering they are in the DoFP ending scene, they are not gone forever.

They are alive in 2023 new timeline, those from OT are gone forever like Angel X3.

Sorry, but Cycclops, Jean, Storm, Angel, Kurt, ... are in the same case. 1973 is altered, Scott and Jean are going to be recruited by Xavier, Kurt rescued by Mystique, Angel and Storm recruited by Apocalypse. X1-X2-X3 are deleted from continuity

At last, new timeline : Scott Jean Storm Nightcrawler Angel in Apocalypse, Scott Jean Storm in DOFP ending scene

original timeline : Scott Jean Storm from trilogy, Kurt X2 and Angel X3. All dead before 2023

Warren was not in his 40s in the original timeline. He was born in the 80s

Forget "10 years ago" during opening scene. Such as Jean in her chilhood, "20 years ago" must be forgotten, as we know X3 set in 2006. 1986 is improbable, because she cant be younger than her 1983'version

 

[GuestStar2004]

Forget "10 years ago" during opening scene. Such as Jean in her chilhood, "20 years ago" must be forgotten, as we know X3 set in 2006. 1986 is improbable, because she cant be younger than her 1983'version

While thats when the movie was made it may not be when that film was set since DOFP future sequence set in 2023 was 10 years after X3 according to singer

 

[Majik1387]

That is the Wade from Origins. In Deadpool 2016, Wade as same as Vanessa and Angel Dust are not referred as mutants. Negasonic and Colossus may be the only mutants. In the cinematic universe, we found 2 characterizations of Jubilee, Emma, and Deadpool.

They do not need to be referred to as mutants for them to be mutants.

They are alive in 2023 new timeline, those from OT are gone forever like Angel X3.

That's what I'm saying.

Sorry, but Cycclops, Jean, Storm, Angel, Kurt, ... are in the same case.

No they're not

1973 is altered, Scott and Jean are going to be recruited by Xavier, Kurt rescued by Mystique, Angel and Storm recruited by Apocalypse. X1-X2-X3 are deleted from continuity

You're pretty much agreeing with me.
As for original trilogy being entirely deleted, the real answer is whatever Singer liked is staying, and whatever he disliked is gone.

At last, new timeline : Scott Jean Storm Nightcrawler Angel in Apocalypse, Scott Jean Storm in DOFP ending scene

Not sure what you're stating her other than the obvious.

original timeline : Scott Jean Storm from trilogy, Kurt X2 and Angel X3. All dead before 2023

Almost but no. Storm was alive for DoFP. Angel is unknown in movie-verse. I'm not counting 25 X-Moments or whatever.

Forget "10 years ago" during opening scene. Such as Jean in her chilhood, "20 years ago" must be forgotten, as we know X3 set in 2006. 1986 is improbable, because she cant be younger than her 1983'version

First, no, I will not forget the time stamps in X3 when dealing specifically with X3. You can't pick and choose what to follow and what to ignore within a movie's continuity like that.
And we don't know specifically when X3 is set other than at some point in the modern day.
No idea where 1986 is coming from.

While thats when the movie was made it may not be when that film was set since DOFP future sequence set in 2023 was 10 years after X3 according to singer

Exactly.

 

[kasjan]

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[CyclopsSummers]

Almost but no. Storm was alive for DoFP. Angel is unknown in movie-verse. I'm not counting 25 X-Moments or whatever.

First, no, I will not forget the time stamps in X3 when dealing specifically with X3. You can't pick and choose what to follow and what to ignore within a movie's continuity like that.
And we don't know specifically when X3 is set other than at some point in the modern day.
No idea where 1986 is coming from.

Who said 25moments isnt official ? pictures are officials, texts are officials, this is a website created by Twentieth Century Fox as same as thebentbullet.com in addition for the release of DOFP movie

You're wrong you're not counting 25 X-Moments thats why you cannot explain the presence of Angel there.

If DOFP sets 10 years after X3 so X3=2013
And if we dont ignore timestamping of X3 so Jean in her childhood=1993.
So its impossible.

Singer said we have to ignore some details in OT since they made this trilogy prequel with retcon.

 

[Majik1387]

What official pictures and are you talking about? Never even heard of thebentbullet.com until today, and I guarantee you neither has the general audience.

I'm not counting the 25 moments thing because you I'm still not sure what you're referring to? Are we talking about the same thing that had a baby Colossus all metal? Because if so, none of that is movie canon or continuity.

Ignore some details, aka ignoring Angel's existence in OT. Glad you can accept that.