Black Panther The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 10

[shadowboxxx]

I dont think its fair to compare BP with AWIT and deduce from that how each director would have done in the other's place.

 

[Wylie Times]

I dont think its fair to compare BP with AWIT and deduce from that how each director would have done in other's place.

It's absolutely not fair, they're two totally different properties.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Will this still be in theaters on 4/27? I'm wondering when to expect a home release. I need to watch this and Spider-Man again before IW

 

[Kane52630]

Hopefully it's out digitally before then.

 

[TheCommissioner]

release date to home release is typically 90-100 days, thats the sweet spot

Jumanji just hit digital release this week and its STILL in theaters for another week or two because its still pulling in money

 

[KevTravels]

I doubt we see BP on dvd until mid June. This film is getting a fullllll run at the cinema. It'd have been nice to have it as a bday gift on the 4th of June, but alas.

 

[KevTravels]

Have we seen any announcements for the next roles Chadwick or Lupita or Letitia are up to? I gotta imagine studios all over town are wanting to cast them.

Same with MBJ. Though I don't think a Creed sequel without Coogler is a good idea.

 

[Iceman]

It's absolutely not fair, they're two totally different properties.

I agree that it's not fair. But Coogler at least comes out of BP with a zero stinker award to date. Long may that continue.

 

[RockSP]

Have we seen any announcements for the next roles Chadwick or Lupita or Letitia are up to? I gotta imagine studios all over town are wanting to cast them. Same with MBJ.

I don't know which project is next for her but Lupita has at least 3 in development: Playing Trevor Noah's mother in the movie based on his book, a mini series with Danai Gurira based on the book Americanah by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, and a movie with Viola Davis (they'll play mother & daughter) about the Dahomey Amazons.

 

[DeadStroke]

TO BE FAIR, Wrinkle in Time is much harder to adapt for screen.

I honestly do think Ava would have been just as good as Ryan if not more so. The visuals for Wrinkle at least look on point and the effects look a bit more polished than Panther's. I remember people having concern about Ava when it comes to action scenes, but the irony is that's one area that Coogler turned out to be the weakest in.

That is surprising.

Also I've heard that Wrinkle has some of the best CGI and beautiful images. So they say Ava's got a great vision and knows how to implement she just struggled with the story.

Maybe Ryan will be comfortable with the next film. I wonder if during the 3rd act battle if he was too reliant on others. Didn't see his visually imprint like with the casino and waterfall scenes.

 

[The Chris]

I've heard both, that some visuals in the film are breathtaking but that some are ugly and/or bland.

I do think things ended up for the best. I love them both and i think they both handle story and characters extremely (judging by Middle of Nowhere and Selma for her, Fruitvale Station and Creed for him), but i was more comfortable with his jump to the bigger stuff because i feel he's a better craftsman at the moment. His use of the camera, his editing and his use of music is incredibly top notch. Still i hope she gets another crack at a big movie after Wrinkle.

 

[DeadStroke]

I've heard both, that some visuals in the film are breathtaking but that some are ugly and/or bland.

I do think things ended up for the best. I love them both and i think they both handle story and characters extremely (judging by Middle of Nowhere and Selma for her, Fruitvale Station and Creed for him), but i was more comfortable with his jump to the bigger stuff because i feel he's a better craftsman at the moment. His use of the camera, his editing and his use of music is incredibly top notch. Still i hope she gets another crack at a big movie after Wrinkle.

I thought Coogler did a great job. However, I still was a bit surprised the craft of Black Panther wasn't as good as Creed. Maybe it was an adjustment period working with Marvel. I think what he accomplished was more impressive, but the technical details were better with Creed.

 

[Winterfell]

I thought Coogler did a great job. However, I still was a bit surprised the craft of Black Panther wasn't as good as Creed. Maybe it was an adjustment period working with Marvel. I think what he accomplished was more impressive, but the technical details were better with Creed.

Panther was a bigger production with more things to juggle.

Creed and Fruitvale were smaller and more grounded films that he approached pretty much the same way.

That said, I think Taika made transition from small to big budget better than Ryan did. I watched Ragnarok again the other night, and while I still like BP better overall, it's more of a sound film on a technical level despite it having some dodgy CGI as well(but nothing as glaring as the rhinos).

I believe the pressure was probably eating at Coogler a bit. When he was interviewed last year, it sounded like the project was weighing on him. I wasn't surprised to hear that he was in the editing room up till the very end.

 

[DeadStroke]

Panther was a bigger production with more things to juggle.

Creed and Fruitvale were smaller and more grounded films that he approached pretty much the same way.

That said, I think Taika made transition from small to big budget better than Ryan did. I watched Ragnarok again the other night, and while I still like BP better overall, it's more of a sound film on a technical level despite it having some dodgy CGI as well(but nothing as glaring as the rhinos).

I believe the pressure was probably eating at Coogler a bit. When he was interviewed last year, it sounded like the project was weighing on him. I wasn't surprised to hear that he was in the editing room up till the very end.

I wouldn't say Taika did better, but I would say Taika didn't have the lows that Coogler did. Coogler's top moments about gave him the edge.

However, No action scene was great in TR, but none was bad either. I think it was reported that TR had people working around the clock on CGI yet it seems some just elements in BP seemed to be skipped over. TR didn't have an obvious flaw or bad scene imo.

Its why even though I think BP could and maybe even should (if the year is not strong) get a BP nod I find it hard to believe Coogler will get a directing nod. In fact its pretty slim.

He (another surprise) did a better job with the script than he did directing.

There was not enough energy for the final battle + subpar CGI. He can't let that happen.

 

[Aximili86]

Weird point about DuVernay potentially being better than Coogler with the action scenes.

All that CGI spectacle stuff is on Marvel, not Coogler. They do it in all the recent movies. Personally much as I like Coogler I do think he's getting a little too much uber-praise for this movie, but the goofy weightless CG Panther/Killmonger stuff isn't on him, it's bigger than that. Not his fault.

The Korea stuff was fine.

 

[DeadStroke]

Weird point about DuVernay potentially being better than Coogler with the action scenes.

All that CGI spectacle stuff is on Marvel, not Coogler. They do it in all the recent movies. Personally much as I like Coogler I do think he's getting a little too much uber-praise for this movie, but the goofy weightless CG Panther/Killmonger stuff isn't on him, it's bigger than that. Not his fault.

The Korea stuff was fine.

He deserves every bit of praise for the depth, story and the performances. It was mentioned in an article that experienced directors know how to shoot certain scenes to make CGI easier to render. So for that he's gotta improve.

He made a superhero movie (solo) where ever character had meaning and purpose. It also had some of the best world building I've seen in a very long time. That's incredibly hard to do and did so with a layered story that was daring especially for a Marvel film.

 

[Dboi]

Apparently, its getting lukewarm to good word of mouth in China.

Some companied the lack of action and little humour in the movie.

Found it on the Marvel Studios reddit page.

 

[HunBoy]

Feige on Black Panther sequel:

We have ideas and a pretty solid direction on where we want to head with the second one.

 

[Pink Ranger]

It'll do well in China. There's car chases, martial arts, destroying a casino (in another country) and honouring one's ancestors, all these things will resonate with the audiences there.

 

[KevTravels]

They can only improve with the CGI and action sequences for the sequel. What matters to me was the story, the theme, the dramatic bits were on point.

 

[coreymb16]

They can only improve with the CGI and action sequences for the sequel. What matters to me was the story, the theme, the dramatic bits were on point.

^Ditto. I also enjoyed all the action scenes in the movie as well. It didn’t take me out of the movie at all. It served to fit the story. But I’ve never seen so many emotional moments that spoke to me in the MCU than the way BP did. Plus to me it’s so rewatchable. The first movie ever that I’ve seen more than once a movie theater.

 

[King_Nomarch]

‘Black Panther’ Bounds Into China, Spars With ‘Spider-Man: Homecoming’ For 3rd Biggest MCU Opening Day Ever

Refresh for latest…: Disney/Marvel’s Black Panther took its first full steps in China on Friday with an early estimated start of $22.7M. That would make it the 3rd or 4th best Day One ever for an MCU title after Avengers: Age Of Ultron (Tuesday opening) and Captain America: Civil War. When the dust settles, it may edge Spider-Man: Homecoming to take the crown of 3rd best start of all time.

This portends a Middle Kingdom weekend opening in the high-$60M to low-$70M range for the Ryan Coogler-helmed movie. That’s above where some saw it heading into the frame, but as we noted in Wednesday’s China preview, there were notions BP would leap above $60M this session.

By Wednesday, advance ticket sales had topped those for Spider-Man: Homecoming by 30%. SMH‘s full first weekend was $71M last September. It finaled at $116.3M. BP now looks poised to play along the same trajectory, although more will be borne out on the ultimates once this weekend plays through. BP will not have long to make a dash for cash with Tomb Raider and Pacific Rim: Uprising entering the market in the following weeks.

http://deadline.com/2018/03/black-panther-china-box-office-opening-weekend-results-1202324434/

 

[DeadStroke]

 

[Tacit Ronin]

That does not make a lick of sense. Vegeta does not wear a gorilla mask. He becomes one.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Not that big of a deal