Black Panther The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 7

[Webfoot Hero]

I’m fine with it. Comics make their heroes too overpowered where they are peak human abilities and intellect. It makes them a little boring.

Anyway my money is one of the post credit scenes is Bucky waking up.

I think it helps give Shuri something else besides her just being T'Challa's kid sister.

 

[Melpardus]

I'm sure they'll definitely keep his strategic mindset; it's kind of inherent to being Wakanda's king and all. I've always just assumed that T'Challa's been too busy doing Black Panther stuff and being groomed for governance to really spend a lot of time tinkering around in the lab, but he understands the various subject matters well enough or can at least learn them fairly quickly. [BLACKOUT]Apparently there's some flashbacks that show what he was like before becoming Black Panther, so maybe we'll get a glimpse of what he was doing then.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[DeadStroke]

FWIW

Editor Claudia Castello (Fruitvale Station and Creed) has been completely removed from IMDB for Black Panther.

We know Debbie Berman (The Final Girls and Spider Man Homecoming) was added months ago. However, this is the first time Castello has been outright removed from IMDB.

Michael P. Shawver is still there. They just use to work in tandem on Coogler's films.

 

[King_Nomarch]

I'm sure they'll definitely keep his strategic mindset; it's kind of inherent to being Wakanda's king and all. I've always just assumed that T'Challa's been too busy doing Black Panther stuff and being groomed for governance to really spend a lot of time tinkering around in the lab, but he understands the various subject matters well enough or can at least learn them fairly quickly. [BLACKOUT]Apparently there's some flashbacks that show what he was like before becoming Black Panther, so maybe we'll get a glimpse of what he was doing then.[/BLACKOUT]

[BLACKOUT]We know we'll see T'Challa as a kid and maybe a flashback scene of him taking on the trials to become Black Panther.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Blade X]

Will BP still have his enhanced senses,strength,agility,and speed due to the heart shaped herb?

 

[Blade X]

I think it helps give Shuri something else besides her just being T'Challa's kid sister.

Yeah, I agree. However, I still want T'Challa to be a genius scientist/inventor, but in a different field then Shuri.

 

[Chesterfield]

Im still not happy with shuri being the genius over tchalla. For me one of his defining atributes is his intellect, sure his a monarch and a great strategist, a cunning politician and warrior but still hes always been a super genius and that has lead in great part to him being 10 steps ahead of his enemies. Im okay with her being the Q to his bond as long as he at some point also develops on his own something game changing like the energy daggers or the energy field from hickmans run maybe a tech thats not related to vibranium so shuri is exclusive to that. OR that atleast he comes with the ideas and she develops them with his notes.

Coogler has already stated that T'Challa is smart. Just because Shuri is the smartest in the MCU it doesn't mean T'Challa is a saw-dust for brains dumbass. It's obviously not a case of not being the smartest to either being dumb. Stop worrying over nothing.

 

[Chesterfield]

Will BP still have his enhanced senses,strength,agility,and speed due to the heart shaped herb?

You know the answer to this already.

 

[Blade X]

You know the answer to this already.

If I did know the answer, I wouldn't have asked the question. Seeing as this is the MCU and not the comic book MU, there is no guarantee that he will have his enhanced prowess. Is his enhanced prowess in the MCU is due to his suit or due to the heart shaped herb?

 

[Winterfell]

Will BP still have his enhanced senses,strength,agility,and speed due to the heart shaped herb?

Yes. Coogler and co, have already talked about it. Zuri, in the film, is the keeper of the herb and he is responsible for preparing it and giving it to the new king.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Republicanism (not the GOP ) and democracy are not correlated.
A republic can officially be an oligarchy. Or sanction slavery.
What a republic can never have is a monarch.
Maybe you meant that some countries use the term Democratic loosely? t:
Like the Democratic People Republic of Korea (North Korea).

That country also uses Republic...

 

[Chesterfield]

If I did know the answer, I wouldn't have asked the question. Seeing as this is the MCU and not the comic book MU, there is no guarantee that he will have his enhanced prowess. Is his enhanced prowess in the MCU is due to his suit or due to the heart shaped herb?

Have you not seen civil war? He clearly demonstrated that his suit doesn't give him his superhuman abilities.

 

[javonstokess]

T'Challa is more generally smart about a multitude of subjects, while Shuri is seemingly more "Tony Stark-like inventor" smart.

T'Challa= Bruce Wayne
Shuri= Reed Richards

 

[Dboi]

Maybe I'm way over my head but if this movie becomes successful, I'm hoping for a videogame to be announced over the coming year(s).

 

[Abudefduf]

If there's one thing the Marvel universe has always lacked is women geniuses. I guess Shuri is Marvel Studios' attempt at filling that void.

 

[bobo]

If there's one thing the Marvel universe has always lacked is women geniuses. I guess Shuri is Marvel Studios' attempt at filling that void.

Um.. Helen Cho

 

[Wylie Times]

T'Challa is more generally smart about a multitude of subjects, while Shuri is seemingly more "Tony Stark-like inventor" smart.

T'Challa= Bruce Wayne
Shuri= Reed Richards

In the comics T'Challa is much closer to Reed Richards in terms of intelligence. T'Challa specializes in theoretical physics and actually created a new field of science called Shadow Physics that combines Quantum Physics and ancient alchemy.

Shuri in the comics is incredibly smart but not quite a genius.

In the film it seems like they flipped things in order to give Shuri something to do that doesn't involve her becoming Black Panther (which is good).

 

[Wylie Times]

Have you not seen civil war? He clearly demonstrated that his suit doesn't give him his superhuman abilities.

A surprising number of people still don't realize the T'Challa didn't get his powers from his suit.

Even though in Civil War we see T'Challa fighting Bucky outside of the suit and making superhuman leaps, people still thought T'Challa got all of his powers from the suit.

Hell, there are probably still a bunch of people that think T'Challa's tech was given to him by Tony Stark.

 

[quara33]

In the film it seems like they flipped things in order to give Shuri something to do that doesn't involve her becoming Black Panther (which is good).

Exactly—I love this change, frankly, it gives each character space to operate and grow in (and makes for a hilarious brother/sister dynamic that for once doesn’t involve rivalry)

 

[Melpardus]

Um.. Helen Cho

She's like the only example though - Jane Foster notwithstanding, and I found her very bland anyway - and she wasn't really a character as much as a plot device. (I didn't even know she survived the Ultron incident until I looked her up.)

 

[Abudefduf]

Um.. Helen Cho

I was talking about the comic universe but you're right, I forgot about Cho; not sure she counts though, she so far she's only appeared in one movie and in a relatively minor role.

 

[Blade X]

Yes. Coogler and co, have already talked about it. Zuri, in the film, is the keeper of the herb and he is responsible for preparing it and giving it to the new king.

Cool, that makes me even more excited for this movie. Thanks for answering my question.

 

[Blade X]

Have you not seen civil war? He clearly demonstrated that his suit doesn't give him his superhuman abilities.

Yes, I've seen CW. However, it was not "clearly demonstrated" that the sit didn't give him his enhanced prowess.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

Yes, I've seen CW. However, it was not "clearly demonstrated" that the sit didn't give him his enhanced prowess.

He went toe to toe with Bucky without the suit, took hits from him (I think even from the metal arm) and held his own. And he somehow got up the stairwell pretty damn quick when Bucky had a head start on him. I think that demonstrated that the suit wasn't the source of his power.

 

[Blade X]

A surprising number of people still don't realize the T'Challa didn't get his powers from his suit.

Even though in Civil War we see T'Challa fighting Bucky outside of the suit and making superhuman leaps, people still thought T'Challa got all of his powers from the suit.

EXACTLY. It should also be pointed out that even though T'Challa was shown fighting Bucky out of the suit and doing "superhuman leaps", that what he was shown doing in those fight scenes out of his costume were things that we've seen people doing in pretty much in most standard American action films since the 80's and in most Hong Kong and Japanese action films since the 60's.