BOUGHT/THOUGHT "Nobody cares about MLK Jr apparently" 1/17

[gildea]

Quite the nitpicker as usual.

That could be said about most criticism batted about on these boards.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I can imagine you would...

Yeah

 

[PWN3R]

So in GL, did Vixen really just yell Sabretooth Tiger? WTF is this Power Rangers?

Sabretooth Tiger!

Do not mock the awesome glory that was Power Rangers.

 

[Dread]

Seriously? USM was fantastic till the Hollywood arc.

It seems everyone who's read USM has a specific story where it started "going downhill" for them. For me it was CARNAGE, followed by JUMP THE SHARK. Ever since the book's been hit or miss, or repetitive. Some good hits, sure, like HOBGOBLIN, WARRIORS, the annuals, etc, but something felt off. And of course CLONE SAGA may be the point of utterly no return.

 

[Speedball]

Sabretooth Tiger!

Do not mock the awesome glory that was Power Rangers.

I miss that girl
RIP Thuy

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Billy cried so hard at her funeral

 

[PWN3R]

The Yellow Ranger had one weakness.

Car wrecks.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh, is that how is happened?

 

[Kevin]

So in GL, did Vixen really just yell Sabretooth Tiger? WTF is this Power Rangers?

She. Did. Not. I gotta see this.t:

 

[Kevin]

The Yellow Ranger had one weakness.

Car wrecks.

You are horrible.

 

[Marcdachamp]

Seriously man, what does it take for you to give a bad review? I've never seen you give a book less than 7/10 EVER!

I was a huge fan of ultimate spider-man. I forgave all the little niggles and stuck by the book through thick and thin but the clone saga was too far. I've dropped this book and even though I'm not buying it anymore it pisses me off because it used to be so good.

**** Bendis, he jumped the shark with this one and as a result I'm now extra careful about buying ANYTHING with his name on it. It's time to hand over the reigns because he really has run out of ideas at this stage. The next arc is just warriors with a crappy new avengers plot device chucked in. No thanks

Have you read my old T-Bolts reviews? How about the most recent Wolverine: Origins? They each scored 5 or less. Same went with a lot of Milligan's X-Men.

The fact is, unlike Dread, I don't buy books I hate. Period. If it sucks ass, it's gone. I'll stick with some mediocre books (Black Panther and FNSM) for some time, but, as far as I'm concerned, nothing I'm reading is really THAT awful. To me, less than a 5 is pretty disgraceful, with 1 or 2 being nigh-unreadable crap. If I were reading Nightwing OYL, that would probably be a 1 or 2. Fact is, I'm pretty happy with what I read.

 

[gildea]

yeah the concept of not buying what you don't enjoy seems alien to comic fans at times.

 

[ragingdemon155]

yeah the concept of not buying what you don't enjoy seems alien to comic fans at times.

Heh So very true.

 

[Kool-Aid]

I always found it funny the yellow ranger was asian and the black ranger was black.

 

[Darthphere]

yeah the concept of not buying what you don't enjoy seems alien to comic fans at times.

Its funny, because I ***** a lot, but theres not a book on my pull list I actually hate.

 

[Themanofbat]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! TMOB's Back!

Thanks...

TMOB is back. Now, Go to Hell.

If you had said that to me via PM, I'd have your ass banned...

Seriously? USM was fantastic till the Hollywood arc.

As I've said since day one, the Ultimate universe is completely unnecesary, as I doubt it attracted "new" readers to the core books. All it did was give creators continuity-free stories to tell, and for the most part, they blew it.

Sure, some stories were interesting twists, and the art has been decent to great (and at times terrible)... but I would have preferred if these "creative juices" would have been flowing through old characters that needed boosts or to low-selling books that could have used high-profile creators to attract more readers.

And as always, it's merely my two cents...

Cheers...

 

[Darthphere]

TMOB needs a weekly column on here called "My two cents..."

 

[Colossal Spoons]

^Weren't you callin people out for kissin Dread's ass yesterday?

Tsk tsk Dath.

 

[Darthphere]

^Weren't you callin people out for kissin Dread's ass yesterday?

Tsk tsk Dath.

That would make sense, if I wasn't mocking TMOB.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Uh huh :heart:

 

[Darthphere]

Stop kissing my ass please, my ego is filled.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope Annihilus eats you

 

[hippy fascist]

yeah the concept of not buying what you don't enjoy seems alien to comic fans at times.

Not really, to be honest if I don't like a book my reaction is generally... meh

It's only the books that I have a genuine affection for that I get angry about when they are being screwed up.

It's like the old maxim:

You have to love something before you can truly hate it.

For example USM. That used to be one of the books I really looked forward to. I would defend it to the haters (how ghetto am I ) and kept reading through the dips in quality because it was a book that I felt was capable of truly great things when they got it right. To see that book in the state it's in now really pisses me off because I remember how good it used to be.

Hell, as I've already said, I don't read the book anymore but reading the summaries makes my blood boil because I feel bitter that another quality book has gone down the ****ter.

 

[gildea]

Not really, to be honest if I don't like a book my reaction is generally... meh

It's only the books that I have a genuine affection for that I get angry about when they are being screwed up.

It's like the old maxim:

You have to love something before you can truly hate it.

For example USM. That used to be one of the books I really looked forward to. I would defend it to the haters (how ghetto am I ) and kept reading through the dips in quality because it was a book that I felt was capable of truly great things when they got it right. To see that book in the state it's in now really pisses me off because I remember how good it used to be.

Hell, as I've already said, I don't read the book anymore but reading the summaries makes my blood boil because I feel bitter that another quality book has gone down the ****ter.

I don't disagree with waht you said (in truth I agree 100% that its always worse to see something good ruined etc etc).

But really I'm not sure of the relevance it has to mardachamp's reviews genreally being on the positive side because he only buys books he likes.

Sure it explains peoples relentless bashing of USM but I wasn't really discussing that.


For what its worth the clone saga (USM) is not IMO the worst arc that has been written for USM. Its had plenty of good moments (and some bad moments too) but I enjoyed the whole "throw EVERYTHING and the kitchen sink in" plot of it.

The main criticisms I have of it are
a) pacing, as has been pointed out this arc is 9 issues long it really could have been done in 5-6 (this is a standard and generally lazy criticism of bendis but it does apply here IMO). This is particularly noticable in issues 4 & 6 which are two massive info dumps and could have been condensed into other issues without losing much of the narrative flow or pacing. Normally this criticism is a bit blase because it ignores what bendis is trying (rightly or wrongly to do) with his dialogue but for the most part these issues aren't conversations they are simply monologues and could have been edited better
b) Were-MJ to be honest I don't have a problem with a psycho clone of peter giving mj an OZ injection given that her lack of powers has been a continuing theme throughout USM its a perfectly sensible plot idea. My problem is with the frankly hideous design which looks stupid and CHANGES her gender whenever she "wolfs out"
c) Lack of costume, I understand the reasoning but its beginning to grate, even with me.

What I enjoyed about the arc
a) As I said before I feel than anything can happen in this arc
b) Magno Ock as long as he doesn't become a magneto class villain (ie give him limitations that rely on his arms) I really like this as when you look back at his previous apperances it fits in really well.
c) the clones have been fun and quirky, from the multi armed to the furry spider boy they've each shown different sides of pete and its fascinated me
d)The developing relationship between pete and the fantastic four has been a real joy to read for me, its completely different from 616 (aside from johnny and pete) and it's good to see.
e) fight scenes there's been plenty of and they are for the most part (aside from a two page section in the latest issue which is just, well, murky) rendered well with lots of energy and clarity

What I'm unsure of
a) carnage-gwen this makes sense if they took a sample of gwens dna post death because she had been attacked by carnage, comic science allows something to have been transferred I suppose but where does the clone go from here?
b)aunt may does I really don't want her to know, not cause of the whole "everyone knows his identity thing" but because he needs to have someone in his home life not know so he has a proper peter/spidey dichotomy. It's easy to live 2 lives like that if you don't have to hide it and the book will lose something. I'm hoping for amnesia on this one.


Anyway it's not finished and my mind may change before the end but it's certainly better than the black cat arc and the strange arc IMO.

 

[Themanofbat]

TMOB needs a weekly column on here called "My two cents..."

I'd read it...