Bought // Thought November 05 2008

There is no such thing as Logic within the fanboy psyche.

Hah! Trust me, I'm not a fanboy. I typically take whatever story comes and role with it. Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't. And I seldom comeplain. It just really goes to show how rediculous OMD/BND really was when people like me who take whatever story comes will be this bitter toward it.
 
Avengers: The Initiative Special: This was decent but kind of disappointing. The stories were well told and flowed nicely and all, but they didn't feel like they had much meat to them. Basically, Hardball's an idiot and Trauma's the son of Nightmare. The latter explains a lot, at least. The art was by Steve Uy, so, y'know... yeah. :dry:
 
...How exactly did they confuse "son of a mystical demon entity" with "mutant?" Does that happen often? I mean, outside of Chuck Austen.
 
Justice Society of America #20
...I don't get it.

I mean I get how it works, I just don't get the point.

So we find out that the Earth-2 Power Girl is just a massive freaking ***** and that everyone on Earth-2 is a ******. A fight happens for no real reason (KC Superman's explanation just makes it seem even more ridiculous), some forced irony occurs (zomg Todd why are you so dark in this universe wat happen :(), and in the end our Power Girl just got ****ed by the long dick of the cosmos*, yet again, and learns some important lesson about how her real home is here because...her old real home sucks and is filled with gibbering ******s who cosmically replaced her.

Or something.

This was supposed to be our reintroduction to Earth-2? This? If Johns' intent was to capture the charm and spirit of the original Earth-2 within fandom's nostalgia, well then I'm sorry but this was a pretty epic fail. After reading this, all I feel is damned glad that their universe got eaten for twenty years and hopeful that we'll never see these ****ers again. Unless that was Johns' intent, to show Earth-2 at its absolute worst and most unsatisfying. In which case kudos! Perhaps Johns is really just a well-disguised troll.

*Thanks, Apatow.

(3.3 out of 10)


Checkmate #26
Uh, I mean...Final Crisis: Resist

Sasha? :( Wait, really? Sasha?

I hate Snapper Carr. It's just something I've realized over the past several appearances from him. He's one of the luckiest people on the planet with opportunities that most people could only dream of throughout his life, and yet for some reason he's this bitter, cynical sort of person who acts like his **** don't stink like everyone else's. He acts like he's entitled to some sort of unspoken debt that all the "heroes" owe him but because he never speaks it, no one knows what to do about it. He's bitter, and it's fine for him to be bitter about something, but it just seems like he's bitter about nothing. So yeah, I hate him.

But this comic! This comic I do not hate. Rucka is absolutely fantastic and I think it's high time for him to join the likes of Johns and Morrison to write The Giant Event of some sort. His grasp of character, narrative, pace, action, and continuity is in no way inferior to theirs. The intro, the scenes, the ending...it all works so well. I do have to say it's kind of ridiculous that this comic feels the need to block out Cheetah's naughty bits, considering that for the past twenty years pre-Heinberg she was functionally bare-assed naked on every single panel and simply didn't have those bits. Infinite Crisis: Adds Nipples and Vagina.

But that brings us to a sensitive area. Uh, so to speak. A lot of readers, even those who were gigantic Rucka fans and loved his Wonder Woman run, bemoan the fact that he doesn't really get Barbara Minerva. A big deal is made over the fact that she is reduced to being a flaccid femme fatale under his pen. I definitely do agree that Rucka has oversexed the Cheetah -- two out of three of his depictions of her have jumped the bones of strange men that she barely even knows -- and that was certainly not a part of her character before. Urzkartaga certainly was never a god of fertility before this very issue. This strange notion of making her sexualized due to her bestiality -- wow I wish there were better ways of saying that -- hurts the character far more than it helps her, in my opinion.

On the other hand, I do have to note that people who think that Cheetah is some sort of strong villainess with any sort of character stability at all over her twentysomething years of continuity are pretty much just fooling themselves. Cheetah's personality has been a freaking ping-poing match through the years, even moreso than Wonder Woman herself, who is hardly a bastion of character stability. It sucks because she is WW's foremost iconic villain, far more than Ares is, and writers just cannot agree on what the hell to do with her. To say that Rucka diminishes her character implies that there was any character there for him to diminish in the first place. Which, I mean yeah, there was. But it's not some sort of sacrosanct, iconic persona like the Joker or Luthor or something.

(8.9 out of 10)


And now for the counterargument...
Secret Six #3
See, now this is high-larious 'cause it makes me take back almost everything I just said. Gail Simone writes a kickass Cheetah who is not only kickass, she's recognizable too. This Cheetah definitely feels like she's ripped out of the pages of cluster**** continuity that came before, but she kicks ass. This is someone who could conceivably be Wonder Woman's longest-running rogue, and this makes me look forward to her upcoming appearance in WW all that much more. It makes sense, considering that Simone's WW run so far can be summed up as "fix the past two goddamn years."

And the rest of this comic? Awesome. The plot, characters, dialogue, everything was awesome. A common complaint about DC is that they don't have good villains. That complaint is wrong, and this comic is why.

Oh, and that ending. Totally didn't see it coming, it was brilliant.

(9.6 out of 10)


Vixen: Return of the Lion #2
For all that haven't been reading this, know that it's actually pretty darn good. Art is gorgeous and writing is solid. Story is generic but effective. If you're like me and have soured on Vixen over the past year of JLA inexplicably being JLV instead, read this to, uh, unsour yourself on her.

(9 out of 10)
 
...How exactly did they confuse "son of a mystical demon entity" with "mutant?" Does that happen often? I mean, outside of Chuck Austen.
Who confused that? His parents? I mean, I'm guessing his dad doesn't know that his mom secretly f***ed the embodiment of bad dreams.

Also, read the Hourman series. It'll probably improve your opinion of Snapper.
 
Wasn't he originally confirmed to be a mutant in the Initiative? Or did I just dream that?
 
Oh, probably. Maybe he is a mutant. Namor was a hybrid of human and Atlantean and he wound up as a mutant with a bona fide X-factor gene and everything.
 
Oh, probably. Maybe he is a mutant. Namor was a hybrid of human and Atlantean and he wound up as a mutant with a bona fide X-factor gene and everything.

They only made that "revelation" when it was the early 90's and the X-Men were becoming the bread and butter of Marvel, moreso than during the 80's. It was a way of riding some coattails. :o
 
I seriously cannot believe none of you are reading Marvel Zombies 3. It's better than any previous Marvel Zombies, it ties into continuity (even clearing up some), and it's disturbing as ****.
 
I can't believe anyone's not sick to death of zombies in comics at this point. I limit myself to The Walking Dead and try to ignore everything else that's zombie-related.
They only made that "revelation" when it was the early 90's and the X-Men were becoming the bread and butter of Marvel, moreso than during the 80's. It was a way of riding some coattails. :o
Nevertheless, it's a precedent for hybrids being mutants.

Spider-Man/X-Men #1: Really fun issue. The story succeeded on its details, with little continuity mentions sprinkled throughout and the X-Men and Spider-Man's interactions with each other and Spider-Man's supporting cast spicing up what would've otherwise been a generic superhero vs. supervillain beat-'em-up. The twist at the end is cool, since I didn't think there was going to be any unifying threads in the mini-series. The art was amazing. I particularly loved how Alberti put the effort into giving each character a distinctive body type. Beast is literally built like a gorilla, Cyclops actually looks like a guy that could plausibly be nicknamed "Slim" for once, Peter is lean and has a very Romita, Sr.-esque face, etc. I also like that Alberti seemed to set the story in the '60s, judging by the characters' clothing and the decor in Xavier's mansion and the Coffee Bean, but no attention was really called to it. The story could fit anywhere in the sliding timescale of Marvel continuity and Spidey and the X-Men might just have a thing for '60s fashion. It's not like that sort of thing hasn't made many a comeback anyway. Looking forward to the next issue and the issue after that with great anticipation. :up:
 
Weren't Cloak and Dagger druggies then it was revealed that the drugs turned them into mutants or altered humans. Then we found out that D'Spayre was a part of Cloak's powers.


:confused:


:doom: :doom: :doom:
 
Basically, if you have powers, you're probably a mutant and either you don't know it yet or you're in denial.
 
Weren't Cloak and Dagger druggies

No, but they were runaways who got kidnapped and shot up with some experimental drug that gave them their powers...until Marvel decided they were mutants.
 
I seriously cannot believe none of you are reading Marvel Zombies 3. It's better than any previous Marvel Zombies, it ties into continuity (even clearing up some), and it's disturbing as ****.

I've got the first two issues... I'm going to read it when I get them all... :yay:

:csad:
 
Really? Why not just read them as you get them or get the trade? :huh:
 
Yeah, if you're going to wait like that, you might as well get the trade.
 
Really? Why not just read them as you get them or get the trade? :huh:

I got so upset years ago with Marvel and their mini series being delayed all the time, i just sort of got into the habit of waiting until i have all the issues in front of me before i invest any time in reading the first and/or second issue, then having to wait two or three months until the next installment...

In Marvel's favor, they've become a bit better with that, but it's a habit for me now.

I read all the regular titles each month though.
 
Really? Why not just read them as you get them or get the trade? :huh:

I like reading my minis one after the other at the same sitting, and I like getting the single issues...

Depending on what it is, some things I get the trades, but I'm not that big a fan of trades...
 
Bought/Thought for 11/5/08, Part Two:

INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #7:
A Marvel comic for $2.99? They're becoming rarer to find. This is an epilogue, or "trade break" issue of the series that also doubles as a guest appearance for Spider-Man. It also dives face-first into how BRAND NEW DAY has mixed and matched Marvel continuity. Maybe if I read ASM I would have been better prepared for it, but coming in now, I got a taste of it full on. The taste isn't sweet.

What BRAND NEW DAY has done, in effect, is that for the price of literally ERASING the marriage from history, as well as the unmasking (which was only 2 years ago; man, I bet everyone who treated CIVIL WAR #2 first print like gold feels like a sucker now) and whatnot. However, as DC has experienced a few times with their cluster**** of a continuity (try explaining anyone's origin without using the term "Pre-Crisis" or "Hypertime"), simply using pick-and-choose things to delete doesn't work as planned. Every status quo had reactions and counter-reactions. Take the crux of this issue. The main drama of it is that we have Iron Man and Spider-Man meeting after all that has happened to them post CW. It is supposed to be dramatic. But intsead the "deletions" of it make it awkward.

They want to keep that Peter used to work for Stark, and the pair were close (during THE OTHER and of course the prelude to CW). But, the unmasking is undone so Stark doesn't know Peter is Spider-Man, even though he knew it since New Avengers at least. And there was no marriage, so Peter couldn't have lived at Stark Tower with MJ anymore. How exactly were they that close, then, if Peter didn't confide the identity or move in with his wife? So we are left with what could have been something interesting reduced to something that seems more artificial; every time you spot something that doesn't fit, you can feel Mephisto's reach into the minds of the characters, and it sucks. It only cements that if they wanted Peter unmarried and with a secret identity again, there was a better way to do it without a Spider-Crisis. Or, of course, they could have said "No" to Mark Millar in 2006, but that would have required conviction and sacrificing the current sale for the greater good of a franchise, and Marvel doesn't do that.

Onto the actual story; Peter Parker, still a freelance photographer (eliminating the job as a teacher, the only GOOD detail from JMS' run beyond maybe Aunt May learning the truth), is working a gig for Ben Urich at FRONTLINE. After the bombings of Stark Industries, Urich wants a "street level" type story below the spin about the reaction to the bombing. When Peter & Urich don't have much luck during a Stark press conference, Peter visits the site as Spider-Man, running into Iron Man. IM makes a lot of fuss about being unwilling to be seen with Spidey since he is considered an unregistered fugitive now. But he doesn't recall Peter's identity, and the unmasking, so what, the Iron Spidey run never happened? IM doesn't lift a gauntlet to arrest Spider-Man as he tags along with a few of his battles against Tinkerer and the Big Wheel to reclaim his stolen tech from a black market network. The tone is humorous but Spidey realizes that for the first time, Iron Man seems overwhelmed and not as confident as he seems to come off as, between running SHIELD, his company, and trying to keep his tech out of criminals hands. Spidey gets in some good banter, and Larroca's art is terrific.

But...let me get this straight. Two years ago, JMS shoves Spider-Man into Iron Man's world and manufactures some deep relationship between the two heroes with all the grace of a jackhammer. Within a short period of time, Peter shares his identity, moves his family (his wife and aunt) into Stark Tower, Stark cures him of an illness or whatever the hell THE OTHER was, makes him a new suit, and of course talks him into unmasking & registering before he comes to his senses. They were paired DELIBERATELY to set up the stuff in CIVIL WAR. The unmasking was a big **** storm. But then, what? A year later, Joe Q and JMS do BND and this eliminates all of Spidey's problems. But if the unmasking was a problem, why do it? If they didn't want more people to know Peter's identity, why reveal it to Iron Man? Why have Bendis be loosey-goosey with it in NA? Why not carefully plan actions before spending so much energy doing "shocking" things just to have to undo it in equally shocking ways!?

You will notice that during Joe Q's tenure, the best things that happened usually have the least of his specific, fine tuned influence. The things he approves and lets others execute. The stuff he handles personally turns gold into crap. This is one of them. Marvel wanted to have it's cake and eat it to with Spidey, and has instead made him irrelevant. So now he is back to the same job and same life that he had at 17, but they want to put in bits they liked from recent runs for convenience and hope no one catches on!? This stuff makes Xorneto make sense.

The irony is that there were better ways to "remask" Spidey and even get rid of the marriage than the Infinite Spider Crisis way they chose. Instead they chose a route where they needed Romita Jr. to draw a FAQ 2 page drawing explaining the cluster **** mess that STILL didn't explain jack ****! You can't whitewash everything and then expect the few specks left behind to have any weight.

Some elite comic book readers have a name for the type of fan who has "grown up" with a character, but then insists on either retconning them back to the era when THEY were young, even if it was 20-50 years ago, while wanting to make everything bleak and "realistic" and destroy what came before drama. They call those fans "Babymen". They are crippling DC, and they have crippled Spider-Man. Deciding nothing he has done between 1979 and 2007 was worth keeping is one of the worst theories for Spider-Man. Rather than "re-energize" him, it reminds you that Spider-Man is so old a franchise that the company has to do desperate **** to make people pay attention, or to eliminate a generation's worth of "dust". Babymen are why comics are growing stale as a whole. Men who are pushing middle age so desperate to recreate the stories of the Vietnam era that they push out any fan of progress, or any fan under 35. They'll get their wish.

Spider-Man's appeal was being a "regular guy" dealing with his amazing alternate life. But his adventures have become a spin cycle of worthlessness, and this comic right here is an example of this sort of hogwash. He is about the most unrealistic superheroes ever, and all of this was magnified because leagues of writers couldn't make the marriage work, and Joe Q had a hard on for the 70's.

The Clone Saga didn't kill Spider-Man. The Joe Q tenure did. Remember that, web-heads. Remember that. Don't take things in "bold new directions" if you know you don't have the nuts to keep them there. And if any retcon has to go back beyond a decade, it usually isn't worth doing. If the economy of 2008-2009 ends up putting comic sales on the brink, well, Joe Q and DiDio brought it upon themselves with actions like BND, telling a generation or two of fans what they love and care about is worthless and can be haphazardly erased with a few pages and a sense of arrogance.

The rehashed, broken down, mess of a relationship that now exists and is presented as normal and desirable in INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #7 displays all the things to hate about modern comics. Marvel took their greatest franchise, and ruined it completely and forevermore because they're deathly afraid of a mature relationship with a woman. They've done some wonky stories to keep Peter a man-child, usually by having his girlfriends either die (Gwen) or turn out to be crazy (Felicia, Debra, two in a row), but BND put the ****-storm to a new level of putridness and no one, not Slott, and not Fraction, can make the mess worthwhile. Mephisto took Peter's wife. His friends. A new career. And we're supposed to just swallow it all? It's like the Exiles acting like Morph is fine. It's completely awkward.

So long as a story just has Spider-Man in it and doesn't try to delve into deep continuity, it is fine. But stuff like this, trying to have it both ways with the new rehashed Spider-History, fails on every level.

X-MEN AND SPIDER-MAN #1: And now for something completely different. Well, not really. Written by Christos Gage and drawn by Mario Alberti, this is a 4 issue mini that invents 4 different team ups between the X-Men and Spider-Man from different eras. Why? Who knows. Marvel must have felt some weeks have too few X-Men or Spider-Man comics. Maybe the cost of paper wouldn't be so high if you commissioned less of it, guys. There are plenty of comics that have no reason to be commissioned. Why publish stuff that has no chance of selling and no one asked for it, stuff like this?

But, for what it is, it's fun. It is like a really good issue of X-MEN: FIRST CLASS. From the 70's era stuff, the original X-Men (back when they had unique costumes but still were the core five) have to run into Spider-Man when his enemy Kraven the Hunter announces on TV that Spidey is a mutant. Ignoring the danger, Spidey goes on a double date with Harry & MJ (alongside Gwen) to the Coffee Bean, where the superhero chaos hits the fan when the X-Men, Kraven, AND Blob show up. The heroes save the day, but not before Kraven whisks some DNA samples to Mr. Sinister.

Joy, another retcon. That's how many this week? Plus, Kraven's dead, so any new revelations about Sergei really won't matter, will they?

But taken in isolation, this is a fun little adventure. Reminding you of a time when Marvel comics fearlessly faced the future, rather than fleeing to the past. If the other 3 issues are this fun, I may forget that the overall mini is kind of pointless.


OK i stopped reading really quickly but i want to point out pete and mj did move in with stark and he did know his identity. they were a couple but not married, thats it. everything else happened. and there was a "fix" that made eveybody forget pete was spider-man. pete knows this, he just doesnt know it was actually mephisto. so therefore pete will know stark once knew his ID, though stark won't. there. if you're gonna critisize, get your facts straight.
 
I got so upset years ago with Marvel and their mini series being delayed all the time, i just sort of got into the habit of waiting until i have all the issues in front of me before i invest any time in reading the first and/or second issue, then having to wait two or three months until the next installment...

In Marvel's favor, they've become a bit better with that, but it's a habit for me now.

I read all the regular titles each month though.
Daredevil: Target? ;)
 
I can't believe anyone's not sick to death of zombies in comics at this point. I limit myself to The Walking Dead and try to ignore everything else that's zombie-related.

That really isn't a fair way to judge something new. It be like someone saying they are sick of comic book movies and skipping out on Iron Man and TDK.

You might be right about there being to many zombie stories at the momment, but you shouldn't write this one off as unworthy.

I really didn't enjoy the other 2 volumes of Marvel Zombies, didn't even bother wrapping up the second one.. But this has a different feel to it, because it has been thrust within the 616 it seems more of an effort has been put into making a coherent and interesting story. It also feels much darker and more gruesome.

Give it a try!
 

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