Box Office predictions thread-2007 Edition

What movie will be top grossing in next summer? (Domesticly)

  • Spider-man 3

  • Shrek 3

  • Pirates of the Caribbean 3

  • Ocean's 13

  • Fantastic Four 2

  • Evan Almighty

  • Ratatouille

  • Transformers

  • Harry Potter and the Orden of the Phoenix

  • The Bourne Ultimatum

  • Another


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Erzengel said:
Week 1:
1. Shrek 2
2. Troy
3. Van Helsing

Week 2:
1. Shrek 2
2. Day After Tomorrow
3. Troy

Week 3:
1. Harry Potter
2. Shrek 2
3. Day After Tomorrow

Week 4:
1. Harry Potter
2. Chronicles of Riddick
3. Shrek 2

Week 5:
1. DodgeBall
2. The Terminal
3. Harry Potter

So you are saying Troy, Van Helsing, Day After Tomorrow, Chronicles of Riddick, Terminal and Dodgeball which ranged $57 mil to a max of $187 mil is essentially the same type of competition of Spider-Man 3, Pirates of the Carribean 3 and Ocean 13?

Christ man, what is with you. Did I even say it was 'equal' competition, I mentioned how it was high competition, and that is substantiated by the fact, and I mention for like the fifth time, it's 2nd and 3rd weekends are on the all-time list.

I am under no delusion that POTC3 won't offer better competition, but all Shrek has to do is survive that first week or so and get it's 60 million or so, it'll again climb its way to 400.
 
Yeah I don't consider any of those movies as "high" competition. Competition by definition but in a lower league than Spiderman 3, and Pirates 3. I would equate Day After Tomorrow with Ocean's 13. But I really don't see Shrek 3 making as much as it's predecessor.
 
primemover said:
A trend between two factors is definately not the strongest of trends, but it does show that some of the luster wore off Spider-Man as a franchise to lose almost 30 million even when Sm2 was a better movie.

A better movie? Yes. A slower movie (i.e. less repeat viewings)? Again, yes.

And, for the record, a 92% retention rate for a sequel is pretty darn good. Especially when that's 92% of a ridiculous $404 million.

While not much of a drop I think that under 400 is definately where the franchise will rest.

I don't know. For me, Spidey 3's promising more action (something people wanted), more edge (something people wanted), and Venom (something people wanted). We'll see.

Shrek going from 270 million to 440 million between movies definately shows fan interest going up which will most likely carry over.

Couldn't the same be said for Pirates 2 to 3? I mean, Pirates 1 made $300 million, and Pirates 2 could see a $100 million increase.

I think one thing to consider here is a possible backlash with Pirates of the Carribean 3 due to it being received critically a good bit less than its predecessor. The more I talk to people about it the more I get the feeling like after the rush of it being there, it was not that memorable. This could be kind of a Matrix sequels deal where POTC3 takes a considerable dive from POTC2. People seem to automatically think that POTC3 will do exactly what POTC2 is doing, but that might not be the case, which opens the door even more for Shrek 3.

It's a possiblity. I don't think POTC 3 will pull off a POTC 2, simpy because I feel Pirates 2's advantage was that it delivered what people had been looking for all summer: a big, epic, fun, funny adventure; something that some felt Superman Returns didn't deliver (although, that's up for debate, I guess). However, with Spidey 3 and Shrek 3 likely to deliver the summer goods all by themselves (going by your lovely "precedent" ;)), I'm not sure if Pirates 3 will have that factor that Pirates 2 had.
 
Warhammer said:
I can't make predictions right now, but next year's summer is packed.
A good movie opening every weekend.
I can't wait.

:cool:

Neither can I.

It'll be fun to see Fantastic Four 2 beat down Ocean's 13 especially after Ocean's 12 beat up Marvel's little brother Blade. Revenge is sweet.

POTC3 won't do close to the number that POTC2 did simply because it faces real competition. Poor word of mouth for Superman Returns made POTC2's box office soar. Facing real films, POTC3 will suffer greatly.
 
cmill216 said:
And, for the record, a 92% retention rate for a sequel is pretty darn good. Especially when that's 92% of a ridiculous $404 million.

It definately is, but it's where I see the third movie resting.

cmill216 said:
Couldn't the same be said for Pirates 2 to 3? I mean, Pirates 1 made $300 million, and Pirates 2 could see a $100 million increase.

But with pirates there is definately a downturn in critical success, which didn't happen with Shrek 3, so that is why I give the higher chance of success to Shrek 3. This letdown might carry over into the box-office.
 
Isnt it a little early to debating wether Shrek 3 will beat POTC3? I mean we havnt even seen a trailer for either film, I personally think POTC3 will own shrek 3 but I want say for sure till I see both trailers.
 
I don't think Shrek 3 will be that big. Pirates and Spidey will be bigger than that movie.
 
J Alba's Lover said:
I mean when was the last shrek out?

:confused:

2004? Just like Spidey? POTC 2 came 3 years after POTC. That didn't seem to make a difference.
 
cmill216 said:
:confused:

2004? Just like Spidey? POTC 2 came 3 years after POTC. That didn't seem to make a difference.
but sm3 has the teaser and venom hype going for it and POTC3 has the success of POTC2 and johnny depp for it.

whats shrek 3 have? nothing going for it so far. i mean none of the stars of the shrek movies have had any big blockbusters of late since 2004.
 
J Alba's Lover said:
whats shrek 3 have? nothing going for it so far.

;)

i mean none of the stars of the shrek movies have had any big blockbusters of late since 2004.

That's pretty irrelevant.
 
cmill216 said:
;)



That's pretty irrelevant.
you know what i had a big explaination on this. but when i tried to post it. it wouldn't let me it crashed.

so this is the short version. all the movies from murphy,banderas,diaz have done little to no dame at the BI. and myers hasn't worked since Shrek 2 and having Justin timberlake will put people off from seeing this right away.
 
J Alba's Lover said:
you know what i had a big explaination on this. but when i tried to post it. it wouldn't let me it crashed.

so this is the short version. all the movies from murphy,banderas,diaz have done little to no dame at the BI. and myers hasn't worked since Shrek 2 and having Justin timberlake will put people off from seeing this right away.

Well, Timberlake is movie poison right now (Edison Force, anyone?). But we'll see.

And FYI: Maguire, Dunst, and Franco haven't done much significantly since SM2.
 
cmill216 said:
Well, Timberlake is movie poison right now (Edison Force, anyone?). But we'll see.

And FYI: Maguire, Dunst, and Franco haven't done much significantly since SM2.
But its got the hype shrek don't have. people will want to see Sandman and Venom.
 
J Alba's Lover said:
But its got the hype shrek don't have. people will want to see Sandman and Venom.

Oh, I'm not denying that stuff. (Read my earlier posts and you'll know which film I'm predicting to win). But the actors' other movies since 04 have nothing to do with anything.
 
cmill216 said:
Oh, I'm not denying that stuff. (Read my earlier posts and you'll know which film I'm predicting to win). But the actors' other movies since 04 have nothing to do with anything.
what i'm trying t osay none of them have been successful unless its shrek.
 
J Alba's Lover said:
but sm3 has the teaser and venom hype going for it and POTC3 has the success of POTC2 and johnny depp for it.

whats shrek 3 have? nothing going for it so far. i mean none of the stars of the shrek movies have had any big blockbusters of late since 2004.

A year until these movies come out, does that mean anything to you guys?? Hype doesn't mean diddly until a few months before the film.
 
Im with Alba on this one, the cast for POTC3 are some of the most talked about actors out there.

When I say this, what gets you most excited:

Spiderman Returns!
Jack is Back, and its one hell of a rider!
Shrek reunites with Donkey on another adventure?

That proves POTC and spidy have more going for it.
 
J Alba's Lover said:
you know what i had a big explaination on this. but when i tried to post it. it wouldn't let me it crashed.

so this is the short version. all the movies from murphy,banderas,diaz have done little to no dame at the BI. and myers hasn't worked since Shrek 2 and having Justin timberlake will put people off from seeing this right away.

All still irrelevant, you act like these people have dissapeared for a decade, it's only been 2 years sinc the last movie, these people are still big names.

Also, how will the inclusion of Justin Timberlake make this movie crumble at the box-office, like Jennifer Saunders was a big marque name, yet her inclusion didn't hurt Shrek 2. Remember this is a cg movie, he will most likely play a small role that will lampoon all that is King Arthur.
 
Darth Elektra said:
Im with Alba on this one, the cast for POTC3 are some of the most talked about actors out there.

When I say this, what gets you most excited:

Spiderman Returns!
Jack is Back, and its one hell of a rider!
Shrek reunites with Donkey on another adventure?

That proves POTC and spidy have more going for it.
okay i know i'm gonna get for this like last time but whats so great about shrek? it's a green orge and a talking donkey. Your telling me thats more interesting than Spiderman who is gonna face one of the most awaited villian in venom and is the sequel to the monster hit Sm2. And then POTC3 which has good characters great action sequences and a top notch cast.
 
J Alba's Lover said:
what i'm trying t osay none of them have been successful unless its shrek.

Same can be said for Maguire, Dunst and Franco. Try again.
 
Darth Elektra said:
Im with Alba on this one, the cast for POTC3 are some of the most talked about actors out there.

When I say this, what gets you most excited:

Spiderman Returns!
Jack is Back, and its one hell of a rider!
Shrek reunites with Donkey on another adventure?

That proves POTC and spidy have more going for it.

You could have said the same thing about Shrek 2 as you are saying about Shrek 3, yet that movie is 3rd in domestic box office for all time. What you think is irrelevant as all the other millions of people who want to see this movie, the same ones who lined up in droves for the 1st and 2nd ones, do care.
 
J Alba's Lover said:
okay i know i'm gonna get for this like last time but whats so great about shrek? it's a green orge and a talking donkey. Your telling me thats more interesting than Spiderman who is gonna face one of the most awaited villian in venom and is the sequel to the monster hit Sm2. And then POTC3 which has good characters great action sequences and a top notch cast.

Your personal opinion of these movies means what in this discussion?
 
You really got a ***** for shrek huh? i've never seen anyone defend a cartoon movie like this. you sure your really 39?
 

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