Breaking Bad - Part 10

[Wolfwood]

Sadly a good number of fans missed that element too. I've stumbled on far too many "yeah walt called skyler a stupid b****!" online.

I'll be honest, I didn't catch it at first either. I was just thinking "Oh ****, Walt is going into full crazy town mode." It wasn't till after that I was thinking about him crying during that scene that it dawned on me.

 

[Liam_H]

Some people that understood what Walt was doing are unsure if Skyler knew it.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I just don't understand how the intentions of Walt's call could be missed by some people. He was obviously saying stuff that wasn't even true, so it wasn't even that subtle. And then the crying....
Maybe some "fans" kind of tune-out when there's no violence or cooking happening.

 

[Sawyer]

I just don't understand how the intentions of Walt's call could be missed by some people. He was obviously saying stuff that wasn't even true, so it wasn't even that subtle. And then the crying....
Maybe some "fans" kind of tune-out when there's no violence or cooking happening.

Eh... more like half-truths.

 

[StrainedEyes]

When I first watched it I caught that he was upset by yelling at her, but not the full motive. Looking back it's obvious, you can see when Skyler catches on. It's a very subtle thing which is a testament to Breaking Bad for not dumbing it down.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Yeah I feel he was letting some of his true feelings out, even if his intention was to help skyler out.

The whole "you never believed in me" part I think came from a real place in him. The rest was an exagerated show though.

 

[JaD]

I just don't understand how the intentions of Walt's call could be missed by some people. He was obviously saying stuff that wasn't even true, so it wasn't even that subtle. And then the crying....
Maybe some "fans" kind of tune-out when there's no violence or cooking happening.

Yeah my friend missed out on it too when I talked to him about it. For me it started with 'Why is he talking to her like that?' and then he started being so specific with everything and Skyler's look of awe. It clicked right after that because I figured Walt was smart enough to know the cops were actually listening.

 

[slimshady247]

I'm still curious as to what the catalyst is for him coming back and whether that'll be slightly redemptive or what.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I'm still curious as to what the catalyst is for him coming back and whether that'll be slightly redemptive or what.

He can't find a barber outside of Albuquerque that he likes.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yup, seems like Walt has been trying to be Gus for a while now, I think he is finally there.

He's definitely been trying, but he is not and never could be Gus. He's fueled too much by his petty ego and personal pride to ever be the true businessman Gus was. Gus was a guy who ran his business efficiently and had exactly one personal grudge against the cartel because of what Don Eladio and Hector did to his partner. Walt is a guy who's smart enough to maneuver his way out of trouble but not so smart that he can stop himself from shortsightedly blundering into trouble in the first place. Like Mike said, just 'cause he killed Jesse James, don't make him Jesse James.

 

[redhawk23]

RJ Mitte was an extra on Hanna Montana.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I just don't understand how the intentions of Walt's call could be missed by some people. He was obviously saying stuff that wasn't even true, so it wasn't even that subtle. And then the crying....
Maybe some "fans" kind of tune-out when there's no violence or cooking happening.

Too many people w/miniscule attention spans posting and tweeting instead of watching the show.

Gunn pretty much sold the whole idea by herself. Great performance.

 

[BatLobster]

Yeah, stuff like people missing one of the most important aspects of the whole episode really makes me resent the blogging age a bit. It's like, congratulations...you've got a perfectly well-written full review of the episode posted just moments after the end credits...and you completely missed the whole point of the ending because you were probably too busy typing.

Just bugs me that some of these people actually get paid to review stuff.

 

[Brother Jack]

When I first watched it I caught that he was upset by yelling at her, but not the full motive. Looking back it's obvious, you can see when Skyler catches on. It's a very subtle thing which is a testament to Breaking Bad for not dumbing it down.

I didn't really catch on to it the first time I saw it. But it was absolutely a deception to exonerate Skyler of blame and that's not debatable. However, any lie or exaggeration is based on a kernel of truth and I do think there is basis for some of the things Walt is saying. It's coming from the Heisenberg side of him; the pure, deep-seated id that's piling on this pent-up anger towards his wife. It's Heisenberg saying those things, who hates Skyler, but it's Walt who is crying over it (and giving Holly back). They're working in tandem to protect the family at the cost of Walt's own identity.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Rewatching the pilot episode to help tide me over. Haven't watched it in two years. Walt Jr and even Jesse look a lot younger.

 

[redhawk23]

http://badassdigest.com/2013/09/18/breaking-bad-will-go-out-with-two-75-minute-bangs/

The last two episodes will have extended running times!

 

[BatLobster]

I didn't really catch on to it the first time I saw it. But it was absolutely a deception to exonerate Skyler of blame and that's not debatable. However, any lie or exaggeration is based on a kernel of truth and I do think there is basis for some of the things Walt is saying. It's coming from the Heisenberg side of him; the pure, deep-seated id that's piling on this pent-up anger towards his wife. It's Heisenberg saying those things, who hates Skyler, but it's Walt who is crying over it (and giving Holly back). They're working in tandem to protect the family at the cost of Walt's own identity.

I think that phone call was kind of the ultimate punishment for Walt. He has to draw on the evil side he's well-aquainted with and unleash it on his own family, even confirming Hank's death for them by way of a vicious sounding threat. And knowing full well that these may be the last words he says to his wife. He had to pretend to be more callous than he actually is, at a moment when he was overflowing with unbearable sadness and emotion. Pretty brutal. But, he deserved it. That needed to happen if there's any chance they want me to root for him in any capacity in the final 2.

 

[Soapy]

I didn't really catch on to it the first time I saw it. But it was absolutely a deception to exonerate Skyler of blame and that's not debatable. However, any lie or exaggeration is based on a kernel of truth and I do think there is basis for some of the things Walt is saying. It's coming from the Heisenberg side of him; the pure, deep-seated id that's piling on this pent-up anger towards his wife. It's Heisenberg saying those things, who hates Skyler, but it's Walt who is crying over it (and giving Holly back). They're working in tandem to protect the family at the cost of Walt's own identity.

Yep. Walt is able to lie so well because he piggybacks his lies onto half-truths. Think about those scenes in 5A where he visited Hank at his office. He would cry about the troubles he's having with his wife, and I think at least some of that emotion was probably genuine, but he turned it off real ****ing quick.

He's definitely been trying, but he is not and never could be Gus. He's fueled too much by his petty ego and personal pride to ever be the true businessman Gus was. Gus was a guy who ran his business efficiently and had exactly one personal grudge against the cartel because of what Don Eladio and Hector did to his partner. Walt is a guy who's smart enough to maneuver his way out of trouble but not so smart that he can stop himself from shortsightedly blundering into trouble in the first place. Like Mike said, just 'cause he killed Jesse James, don't make him Jesse James.

Exactly. Walt has a very different picture of himself than others do. Walt thinks he's like Gustavo Fring, but as Gus himself said upon their first meeting, "You and I are nothing alike." Walt thinks he's cold and calculated, all calm, cool, and collected (how many more adjectives that start with C can I come up with?), which is what Gus actually is and Walt wishes he was. However, in contrast, in reality Walt is actually very emotional and impulsive and oftentimes doesn't think things through. Most people think one move ahead, Walt generally thinks like three moves ahead, but Gus was fifty moves ahead. He was playing the long game.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Walt's volatile like his chemicals. He can be calm one minute and explosive the next.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

http://badassdigest.com/2013/09/18/breaking-bad-will-go-out-with-two-75-minute-bangs/

The last two episodes will have extended running times!

 

[TheBat812]

He's definitely been trying, but he is not and never could be Gus. He's fueled too much by his petty ego and personal pride to ever be the true businessman Gus was. Gus was a guy who ran his business efficiently and had exactly one personal grudge against the cartel because of what Don Eladio and Hector did to his partner. Walt is a guy who's smart enough to maneuver his way out of trouble but not so smart that he can stop himself from shortsightedly blundering into trouble in the first place. Like Mike said, just 'cause he killed Jesse James, don't make him Jesse James.

Gus also had an ego, but he was a way superior businessman under control of his emotions. But if Gus didn't have such an ego, he would've killed Walt instead of his own man who could cook Walt's formula. But he wanted the best, somebody who really knew what he was doing. At one point he realizes the cost of keeping walt around is simply too great, so he makes the smart business plan to have jesse cook instead. And we all know how that worked out for him. All around, ego is what destroys everybody on this show.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

http://badassdigest.com/2013/09/18/breaking-bad-will-go-out-with-two-75-minute-bangs/

The last two episodes will have extended running times!

i wonder how much will actually be extra footage and how much would be commercials. I can see AMC dropping 1 extra commercial every break

 

[Soapy]

http://badassdigest.com/2013/09/18/breaking-bad-will-go-out-with-two-75-minute-bangs/

The last two episodes will have extended running times!

 

[TheNextNolan22]

i wonder how much will actually be extra footage and how much would be commercials. I can see AMC dropping 1 extra commercial every break

Minus commercials, the typical length of a BB episode is about 45 minutes. So I would assume these last two episodes can be anywhere from 55 minutes to an hour.

 

[Soapy]

I'm tempted to skip Granite State and save it for later and watch it back to back with Felina.