Breaking Bad

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Yeah, I thought I remembered that. My point stands though, Walt was kind of arrogant about the world he entered, thinking he was above it. It's like a great film director deciding to make the greatest porno of all time, but at the same time thinking porn and *********ion is wrong and immoral. Just seems a bit hypocritical to me.
 
But then again, doesn't the opinion that people who do drugs are all just low-life junkies and the opinion that doing drugs is morally wrong somewhat come from the War on Drugs?

During the prohibition era, all the ills of society were blamed on alcohol. Why did husbands come home and beat their wives? Because of alcohol. Why did they beat or molest their kids? Because of alcohol. Why are they lazy at work? Because of alcohol. Why did people kill other people and commit crimes? Because they were drunk because of alcohol. Those were the arguments used to ban alcohol.

We are seeing people stick to a similar worldview today. If you like to smoke weed or take any other sort of drugs, you are seen as scum. As nothing but a junkie. You're responsible for all or almost all the ills of society. Walt had that same everyman opinion when he joined the business.
 
Well, I mean with or without the War on Drugs it's a fact that hard drugs like crystal meth, crack, heroine etc. have ruined and taken many lives. I don't think Walt is necessarily wrong to have a dim view on drug abuse, he's like most other middle class family men in that regard...it's the fact that he tries to maintain that view while stepping into the drug trade that I find ironic. It's all part of his self-dillusion.

To me Walt is just a story of wasted potential. He created the purest meth the streets had ever seen...imagine if he had applied his brilliance towards positive advances in medicine. He did a lot of damage when he had the potential to do a lot of good.
 
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Gus ended up being right in Season 3:

"A man provides for his family...and he does it even when he's not appreciated. Or respected. Or even loved. He just bears up and he does it. Because he is a man."

But Walt's not a man, he's a monster. :oldrazz:
 
I still can't get over that there wont be anymore Breaking Bad episodes.

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Another overtly feminist/"men suck" Breaking Bad article. It's the most I've ever seen for a particular show. It's crazy.
 
While I find the annoying types of feminists as annoying as the next guy, I do think she had some great insight into the show in that article and made points that were a bit more subtle and interesting than "men suck".

Clearly Vince Gilligan didn't have a feminist agenda with the show, but the show does seem to have something interesting to say about the male idea of power and significance and insecurities surrounding those ideas.
 
While I find the annoying types of feminists as annoying as the next guy, I do think she had some great insight into the show in that article and made points that were a bit more subtle and interesting than "men suck".

Clearly Vince Gilligan didn't have a feminist agenda with the show, but the show does seem to have something interesting to say about the male idea of power and significance and insecurities surrounding those ideas.

I'm reminded of The Male Disease by George Carlin.
 
Another overtly feminist/"men suck" Breaking Bad article. It's the most I've ever seen for a particular show. It's crazy.

I think when something becomes big there have to be people who start attacking it just because it's there.

I swear in the last 3 months i've seen more anti-BB articles criticizing it for things like race, sexism, drugs etc. then in probably the first 5 years of its existence as a show?
 
I don't take that article as anti-BB necessarily. Perhaps somewhat of a critique of the ending, but it just seems to be exploring the show as a launching off point for some of these issues.

And while we can't say the show takes a definitive point of view on some of the issues, to say that it's not fertile ground to discuss some of those things is underselling the richness of the show.
 
While I find the annoying types of feminists as annoying as the next guy, I do think she had some great insight into the show in that article and made points that were a bit more subtle and interesting than "men suck".
Overall, I found the article to be downright laughable. Some points, sure, but very few that made me think she wasn't crazy biased. I mean, just look at this part:

Which leads us to perhaps the most interesting and gender-charged word on Breaking Bad: “B****.” Yes, yes, it’s just a word. But it’s also coded with some very gender-specific ideas about power and dominance – who has it and who takes it – that are fundamental to the conflict at the heart of Walt’s transformation.

In short, calling a man a “B****” is designed to diminish his power by comparing him to a woman. It implies that women are weaker and less powerful, and also that they are to be used and dominated. “B****” is linked to exploitation, to submission; if you make someone your B****, you force them to submit to your will, in one way or another. (Despite being the most famous and popular insult of Jesse Pinkman, it’s worth noting that Jesse almost never uses the word to describe women.)

Similarly, “p****” is a word used almost exclusively against men, for the very reason that it reduces them from masculine to feminine, from a higher level of power to a lower one. What these words tell us is that men aren’t just defined by what they are; they’re defined by what they’re not supposed to be. Over and over again, men in Breaking Bad send and receive the message that the last thing they want to be is women.
Really, like Jesse never called Walt a "dick" during this show? I think Jesse just used swear words, cause he liked to swear, not that the writers of BrBa had some "masculine agenda" rolled up their sleeves. She is seeing what she wants to see, and forgetting that those aren't the only swear words Jesse used a ton during the show.
 
I'm just going to watch the final eight again. That will give me my fix!
 
But Walt's not a man, he's a monster. :oldrazz:

He was never really a monster despite being called that in the show. He did monstrous things but there was a part of him that did care for his loved ones. If there wasn't he would have rejected his family once they had rejected him instead of clinging (foolishly) to them as he did. Walt was a complex guy, as was every character on the show.
 
Another overtly feminist/"men suck" Breaking Bad article. It's the most I've ever seen for a particular show. It's crazy.
Look, another person thinking feminism = Men suck
 
That's not what I said at all, I said what the article implied.
No it doesn't. I've actually seen that argument a lot of time when a woman advocates feminism, when that's simply not the truth.
 
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