BvS BvS Rottentomatoes score - how important will it be, and what do you hope for? - Part 10

[The Joker]

^^ Why would that suggest the critics were too harsh on BvS?

 

[Timebomb]

If you look at it as a trend, I would say the audience was not harsh enough.

 

[AnneFan]

I think its safe to say the critics were too harsh

I think BvS is better than 66%, but that would be more believable as a critic score. 27% is just a joke.

 

[The Joker]

If you look at it as a trend, I would say the audience was not harsh enough.

True. But it has dropped from the 80's down to the 60's since March. That's quite a drop in a 3 month period.

 

[Timebomb]

Let's put the fact that this is a movie with Batman and Superman aside and look at it from a purely technical standpoint. The first part of the movie is horrendous. The critics are going to call it out. When you look at the fact that the studio has to immediately release a "better" version, I think the 27% is appropriate.

 

[Sorath]

I just hope Justice League is better written then Batman v Superman. I hope they do better job of getting Superman right.

 

[AnneFan]

I just hope Justice League is better written then Batman v Superman. I hope they do better job of getting Superman right.

Watch the UC and see what you think. The story is explained in more depth.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

If you look at it as a trend, I would say the audience was not harsh enough.

It would be more accurate if the audience score wasn't stacked with overwhelmingly positive votes long before the movie was even released.

 

[idiot09]

^^ if you count the irrational fanboys who bumped the score,you also have to count the irrational haters who drowned it.So "all accounts are balanced in the end".

I think if BvS ultimate cut was the one released the score would have been more in the 50s or 60s like MOS/Watchmen.A lot of the issues like pacing/editing/coherency were solved which were a major complaint but it was also 3hrs long which the critics wouldnt have liked.

 

[The Joker]

^^ if you count the irrational fanboys who bumped the score,you also have to count the irrational haters who drowned it.So "all accounts are balanced in the end".

There's no evidence that the score was tampered with by irrational haters. But we know the score was bumped up because it had votes in the thousands, sitting in the 80% range, well before the movie was released. Over enthusiastic fanboys were rating it highly before they'd even seen it. Or it could have been in reaction to the steadily shrinking critical score.

Either way they were voting it up without having seen it.

 

[Sleiek]

If there are people who blindly give a movie 10/10 before seeing it, then there are always those who give it a 1/10 without giving credit to some of the things a movie does right. There is no denying that. If only there is a way to see how many people gave a 0 to 1 rating.

 

[idiot09]

^^ Exactly,Sleiek.

 

[The Joker]

But there is denying that anyone who blindly voted it down had any significant impact on the score. The score didn't start to drop until after the movie was released, which implies votes were based on people who saw it. But it was sitting on a nice plump score in the 80% range from thousands of votes well before the movie came out. Which only means one thing.

So that is concrete proof that a significant number of people had been voting it up without seeing it. There is no denying that.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

But there is denying that anyone who blindly voted it down had any significant impact on the score. The score didn't start to drop until after the movie was released, which implies votes were based on people who saw it. But it was sitting on a nice plump score in the 80% range from thousands of votes well before the movie came out. Which only means one thing.

So that is concrete proof that a significant number of people had been voting it up without seeing it. There is no denying that.

Exactly. If the two sides were equal, it would have been around 50% prior to release. But it wasn't.

 

[Sleiek]

There is proof a lot of people rated it before the movie came out.

But there is no proof that those who gave it a bottom rating didn't have any impact. That's why I said if there was a way to measure it now.

In many cases, doesn't matter if you watched the movie or not, a lot of people went to see the movie with their mind already made up. It is no secret that a lot of people were hoping for the movie to crash and burn before the film's release. I have been observing this behavior for more than a year.

 

[The Joker]

Of course there's proof they didn't have any impact. The very fact that BvS was at a nice healthy percentage in the 80's before it was ever released is proof of that. If the negative voters had an impact on the score it would have been much lower than that.

Probably something like this chap said:

Exactly. If the two sides were equal, it would have been around 50% prior to release. But it wasn't.

 

[Sleiek]

The score accounts for all the ratings before AND AFTER the movie's release.

My guess is more and more people gave it a 1/10 and less and less people gave it a 10/10 AFTER the release. Again, it is my guess. We can speculate and guess all we want, but can't prove anything until we see the current rating distribution.

And I never said the overly negative will be as impactful as the overly positive. I am just saying that it probably does have an impact.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

We are talking about the strict pass/fail meter, not the average rating.

 

[metaphysician]

The rotten tomatoes score for audiences deserves to be lower

They really shouldn't allow audience votes until after a film enters wide release.

 

[Xrated48]

They really shouldn't allow audience votes until after a film enters wide release.

Well that too otherwise this film rotten tomatoes audience score would be in the 50's

 

[Assassin32]

Of course there's proof they didn't have any impact. The very fact that BvS was at a nice healthy percentage in the 80's before it was ever released is proof of that. If the negative voters had an impact on the score it would have been much lower than that.

You better stop making so much sense.

 

[Kanye West]

with the way the RT system works the UE would've had a 60 ish %.

 

[idiot09]

Or atleast in the 50s like MOS.The critics would still have a problem with the dark,deconstructive story and 3hr runtime,so...50-60s is what I think it would have got.

 

[Kanye West]

Or atleast in the 50s like MOS.The critics would still have a problem with the dark,deconstructive story and 3hr runtime,so...50-60s is what I think it would have got.

since you have to get at least a 6/10 to count as fresh, i could definitely see most of the scores being at least 6/10 for the UC.

 

[idiot09]

I saw many people giving it 6/10 on rotten tomatoes,or 3/5 stars and their reviews still be rotten.I dont know how exactly RT works mate.