The Dark Knight Caine: "Heath frightened the life out of me"

[Infinity9999x]

Ya, I don't see why people feel that Dwarves bullying rich socialites is such an out there idea. I mean we haven't even seen all the goons and some of them might be short tall or even incredibly fat.

Still you have to consider it a possibility and the fact Caine said it can not be ignored.

Not only that, but it's straight out of TKJ. He had those creepy dwarfs torture Gordon in his fun house, and that was down right disturbing.

 

[Naite22]

Oh man, I really can't wait to see the first footage in teaser-2, this december!!! We already know that Bale rocks as bruce/bats... I just wanna see Heath perform the Joker for Us! Just a line or two, an evil laugther and face, then I'm happy!

 

[Keyser Soze]

Not only that, but it's straight out of TKJ. He had those creepy dwarfs torture Gordon in his fun house, and that was down right disturbing.

Exactly! I don't see how it's "ridiculous" or "preposterous" as Figman stated. Just the thought of it kinda creeps me out, it could be highly effective.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Figman fears what he doesn't understand.


[/Falcone impresson]

 

[Reek]

heath frightened the s*** out of me too... i saw every movie hes made...i liked a knights tale and monsters ball....but his other roles...i mean...10 things i hate about you....ugh.

but i still have faith in him as joker.

 

[Figs]

Not only that, but it's straight out of TKJ. He had those creepy dwarfs torture Gordon in his fun house, and that was down right disturbing.

Yeah, but if you look at all the visuals in those scenes especially the dwarves who looked like demonic cherubs, Gordon was tripping balls(hallucinating).

Exactly! I don't see how it's "ridiculous" or "preposterous" as Figman stated. Just the thought of it kinda creeps me out, it could be highly effective.

It would be incredibly cheasy and campy regardless of how Nolan were to do it. Just think about it, Yeah! Joker makes time to round up a bunch of midgets!?!? It cracks me up that some of the same people who don't want Joker to get the acid treatment are ok with this.

"But it's because he was already painting his face white, and it would be a coincidence!" That doesn't bother me at all due to the fact that real life is and is full of...coincidences. Joker rounding up a bunch of midgets instead of doing the quicker route by getting a bunch of criminals/thugs is too much for me.

 

[JackBauer24]

I spent so damn long on this the first time out that I think this is a valid excuse to post it again t:

also bumps me up to 300

 

[Keyser Soze]

Yeah, but if you look at all the visuals in those scenes especially the dwarves who looked like demonic cherubs, Gordon was tripping balls(hallucinating).

Only the circus midgets have reappeared as The Joker's stooges in subsequent stories.

It would be incredibly cheasy and campy regardless of how Nolan were to do it. Just think about it, Yeah! Joker makes time to round up a bunch of midgets!?!? It cracks me up that some of the same people who don't want Joker to get the acid treatment are ok with this.

"But it's because he was already painting his face white, and it would be a coincidence!" That doesn't bother me at all due to the fact that real life is and is full of...coincidences. Joker rounding up a bunch of midgets instead of doing the quicker route by getting a bunch of criminals/thugs is too much for me.

Because The Joker going to a carnival and rounding up some "freaks" isn't contrived. It doesn't involve the plot doing handstands like throwing in a chemical bath that conveniently bleaches his skin the same color as the make-up he wears would. It would be absolutely in-character for The Joker to do something creepy like round up dwarves for "party guests", not INSTEAD of hired muscle, but in addition to it.

And if you think dwarves can't be frightening, you obviously haven't seen "Don't Look Now". The image of the elevator door opening, to reveal The Joker standing there with a big grin, and all these grinning dwarves around him, just gives me goosebumps.

 

[Figs]

Only the circus midgets have reappeared as The Joker's stooges in subsequent stories.



Because The Joker going to a carnival and rounding up some "freaks" isn't contrived. It doesn't involve the plot doing handstands like throwing in a chemical bath that conveniently bleaches his skin the same color as the make-up he wears would. It would be absolutely in-character for The Joker to do something creepy like round up dwarves for "party guests", not INSTEAD of hired muscle, but in addition to it.

And if you think dwarves can't be frightening, you obviously haven't seen "Don't Look Now". The image of the elevator door opening, to reveal The Joker standing there with a big grin, and all these grinning dwarves around him, just gives me goosebumps.

As with your first comment, I guess I never got my hands on those issues/stories other than TKJ. I'll have to get my copy of TKJ out sometime because I could have sworn they looked all weird as well as the background because Gordon was drugged.

As for the second part, although we have all seen the pics with the truck with the carnival logo on it. Were have been the set reports of an actual carnival for this film? I don't know, mainly....and im just going to be flat out honest here so flame away, I hate midgets.

 

[TheLongestDay]

I spent so damn long on this the first time out that I think this is a valid excuse to post it again t:

also bumps me up to 300

I....shouldnt....be.....laughing.....t:t:t:

 

[Keyser Soze]

As with your first comment, I guess I never got my hands on those issues/stories other than TKJ. I'll have to get my copy of TKJ out sometime because I could have sworn they looked all weird as well as the background because Gordon was drugged.

As for the second part, although we have all seen the pics with the truck with the carnival logo on it. Were have been the set reports of an actual carnival for this film? I don't know, mainly....and im just going to be flat out honest here so flame away, I hate midgets.

They hate you too.

And I'm not saying we'd need an actual carnival scene. We wouldn't need to see him recruiting the midgets. I was just implying that's where they could come from. And the circus truck ties into that too, I never thought of that.

 

[Figs]

They hate you too.

And I'm not saying we'd need an actual carnival scene. We wouldn't need to see him recruiting the midgets. I was just implying that's where they could come from. And the circus truck ties into that too, I never thought of that.

I didn't think of that either until you brought it up in your last post. I guess I kinda forgot about the truck with the carnival logo on it since I haven't seen the pic in awhile.

Yes, I know the midgets hate me. They haunt me in my dreams and I wake up in the middle of the night crying like a baby.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I've read the script; a carnival scene is indeed in the movie. It involves midgets piercing their flesh.

 

[BubbaGump]

Somewhere out there, Miranda is laughing at us right now. Keyser, buddy. You know I love you, but you're reading into this dwarf thing a bit too seriously.

THESE are the dwarves. Sleepy, dopey, grumpy, happy, etc.

Don't believe me? Just go into your harddrive and look at the leaked TDK picture of Joker kicking Batman in the nutters. Look who's restraining him: a dwarf, normal size.

Case closed. /thread, close/delete/ban

 

[Master Wayne]

I seriously can't wait to see Ledger's performance. I love the look and feel that I'm getting from what we've seen so far. Nolan's realistic take on this legendary villain is getting me totally hyped! I had my doubts about casting Heath, but given that he actually can act and how the character is coming together...I think I'm *gasp* becoming a fan...

 

[Nepenthes]

Yes, hire little people to do your dirty work, that makes sense. I could beat the hell out of a midget, so could my neice

 

[CaptainClown]

I don't know if its a realistic look for the joker but it definitly is unique

and as for the dwarfs I have yet to see all seven and his whole posse so the possibility is still there

 

[Nepenthes]

His skin is snow white, his lips are blood red, his hair is as green as the vomit of a punk-rock junkie homicide clown.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Somewhere out there, Miranda is laughing at us right now. Keyser, buddy. You know I love you, but you're reading into this dwarf thing a bit too seriously.

THESE are the dwarves. Sleepy, dopey, grumpy, happy, etc.

Don't believe me? Just go into your harddrive and look at the leaked TDK picture of Joker kicking Batman in the nutters. Look who's restraining him: a dwarf, normal size.

Case closed. /thread, close/delete/ban

If he's normal size, he's not a dwarf silly

 

[CaptainClown]

Actually looking at the bankrobbery pics, I understand why his neck is flesh colored. It is mainly for the audience who don't follow the movie and they dont suspect to see Joker. Oh well just a thought

 

[Figs]

Actually looking at the bankrobbery pics, I understand why his neck is flesh colored. It is mainly for the audience who don't follow the movie and they dont suspect to see Joker. Oh well just a thought

Very true, but at the same time there are the damn pics were his makeup is running and he appears to have normal skin.

 

[contemporarydog]

I bet you twenty bucks right here and now that will not happen. That is corn ball Michael Bay comedy that Nolan would not touch with a 500 foot pole. One thing I love about Nolan, he uses comedy in the right context and right time.

I mean the punt kicking, not the dwaves who knows if that will happen or not.

Word. Dwarves=cool. Punting=not cool.

 

[CaptainClown]

Oh well Personally I would love Joker to have a possie that consisted of the carnival freak show. A bearded goon dressed as a woman, a couple dwarves dressed as cupids and an incredibly big fat guy

 

[cryptic name]

Very true, but at the same time there are the damn pics were his makeup is running and he appears to have normal skin.

[magneto] are you sure you saw what you saw? [magneto]

 

[Keyser Soze]

Somewhere out there, Miranda is laughing at us right now. Keyser, buddy. You know I love you, but you're reading into this dwarf thing a bit too seriously.

THESE are the dwarves. Sleepy, dopey, grumpy, happy, etc.

Don't believe me? Just go into your harddrive and look at the leaked TDK picture of Joker kicking Batman in the nutters. Look who's restraining him: a dwarf, normal size.

Case closed. /thread, close/delete/ban

The thing is, YOU guys are the ones who are doing the "reading into it too much". Michael Caine says "The Joker has dwarves with him," I take it as face value. You guys are saying "Okay, he says dwarves, but by dwarves he doesn't mean dwarves, he actually means normal-sized thugs who aren't dwarves, each of whom symbolise one of the famous dwarves from Snow White, right, right?"

Yeah, those masked thug pics are all fine and well. But they are from the bank robbery, not the penthouse attack. And we already know from the leaked pics that The Joker has totally different henchmen at the penthouse party.

As for those henchmen, yes, they're at the party, and they're normal sized. But who says they are the ONLY thugs The Joker has. It is quite feasible for him to have dwarves AND hired muscle. Nobody's saying it's one or the other.

And now, let's go back to Michael Caine's interview. He was talking to, was it MTV? Basically, his interview is targeted mainly at casual filmgoers reading the site rather than us hardcore fans. He mentions a scene where The Joker arrives with seven dwarves at his side. For the vast majority of readers - who don't know all the insider goings-on and the set photos etc - this will of course be taken at face value, as The Joker being accompanied by dwarves.

Finally, look at Caine's wording. He's like, "The Joker comes in with seven dwarves. Oh God, wait to you see them!" Why would that produce such shock and surprise if it was just the generic masked thugs we saw in the leaked pics? It is obviously something quite creepy and unsettling, which (no offense to the little people) is an effect dwarves can create in the right setting.