The Dark Knight Rises Can it be topped?

[CaptainClown]

Hell make it like War Games or whichever comic it was when an earthquake hits.

 

[regwec]

No Man's Land?

I would quite like a movie like that, but I think an earthquake would seem a bit of a contrivance.

 

[CaptainClown]

That was it, No Man's Land.

I do think if that is the focus of the movie though basically it might be interesting, Gotham when it basically does become a No Man's Land. I think the series is comic book enough that people would just roll with it.

 

[Naite22]

However it might go, I dont think the third chapter will be as dark as TDK was... it seems to follow the "trilogy-structure" of the original star wars films... I LOVE the realistic style they went for in TDK and hope to God that they keep that in the mix.

 

[Dog Logan]

I think it's totally feasible for B3 to be able to top TDK but it's all a matter of how much work is put into the film (i.e if as much work on the story is done as it was for TDK). It's kind of a foolish thing to say when someone says TDK can never be topped because it can be, it'll just take a really well done movie to knock it off it's throne.

 

[ab38416]

You know, I'm more interested in seeing it effectively "concluded" than "topped". TDK was so good at doing what it did because it effectively "continued" what BATMAN BEGINS set up. I do think the emotional aspects from Bruce's end of things can be topped, though. Give him some real conflict to work with. I also think the "love interest" element can be topped, as can the exploration of his friendship/partnership with Gordon and his relationship with Alfred. So yes, there are elements the third Batman film can improve on from the prior two films.

Well said. I completely agree.

 

[zeptron]

As long as it's good as TDK or even BB I'll be happy.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Their are different aspects on how TDK can be topped. In general,it could possibly top it. Overall it boils down to aspects of the entire movie.

 

[ronny]

It can be topped...in a way.
In terms of action - no.
But in terms of suspense and character development - sure.
Just get a good cast, a good script and a good director and I reckon we can have another masterpiece on our hands. Bet on it.

 

[namtaB]

I think it can be topped both in action and story. I didn't find TDK the be all and end all of either action or story for the Nolan series.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Sure it can be topped.

 

[KalMart]

Does it have to be?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

It can be topped...in a way.
In terms of action - no.
But in terms of suspense and character development - sure.
Just get a good cast, a good script and a good director and I reckon we can have another masterpiece on our hands. Bet on it.

Wha...?

So you think the action aspects of TDK were better than the suspense and character moments?

Wha...?

The action MUST be topped for the third IMO.

Apart from the Hong Kong scene and the chase in the middle of the film the action was mediocre.

They need to make the fight scenes look REAL. Not staged and fake with people reacting BEFORE getting hit and standing around WAITING for Batman to hit them.

And make Batman look like a world class martial artist.

He needs a villain he can go one on one against and have a visually amazing fight scene with. Someone like Bane or Deathstroke.

 

[ronny]

Wha...?

So you think the action aspects of TDK were better than the suspense and character moments?

Wha...?

Certainly not. But The Joker was a character who caused so much chaos that there was a lot of action. The Riddler is more cerebral and not as murderous as Joker. So it has to a different kind of film.
And things like suspense and depth do not outstay their welcome. Whereas there are only a certain ammount of shoot-outs and car-chases you can have before an audience grows bored.
In terms of basic storytelling, The Dark Knight was almost peerless. But it can be topped.
First, it needs a great viral campaign.
I'd argue that something to promote Batman 3 should actually start now. Build it up to fever pitch, to crazy levels of anticipation.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I was thinking a good viral campaign, if they use Riddler, would be for us to do a online clue hunt to figure out who they have cast or something.

Like never officially announce who is cast as Riddler, let us figure it out with the virals. That would take viral campaigns to a whole new level, and fits perfectly with Riddler.

It would get millions of people playing, even just regular movie fans not Bat fans. The Hype and anticipation it would build would be utterly insane.

 

[returntovoid]

I think TDK can be topped with the third film, under the right direction. TDK was a great film but it's not like it was 100% flawless.

There are some things that can be improved:

Getting the focus back on Batman
Bring back Batman's ninja training/hiding in the shadows from BB.
Bring back the classic elements that make Batman unique, like Wayne Manor, the Batcave, the bats, etc.
Exploring Batman's detective side
Improving the fight scenes
Much more cerebral villain that can challenge Batman's intellect (The Riddler)
Second villain that can physically challenge Batman (Deathstroke or Deadshot)

 

[Nightwing 52]

I think TDK can be topped with the third film, under the right direction. TDK was a great film but it's not like it was 100% flawless.

There are some things that can be improved:

Getting the focus back on Batman
Bring back Batman's ninja training/hiding in the shadows from BB.
Exploring Batman's detective side
Improving the fight scenes
Much more cerebral villain that can challenge Batman's intellect (The Riddler)
Second villain that can physically challenge Batman (Deathstroke or Deadshot)

Post of the week.

 

[aerosmith760]

Well, it depends, on three things:

1-Nolan will direct it
2-He will put the same or more effort he put to TDK and/or BB
3-He will use good, deep, and at the same time realistic new villains

agreed 100 percent

 

[aerosmith760]

if they have riddler i believe this will turn out to be godly and why not throw in black mask it may make it more intresting but honestly all i want is

riddler and penguin because i like the debates especially when the dark knight came out everyone was talking about heath and jack

either penguin or catwoman those ones will be good

but honestly i think they might top it nolan can deliver it so wow i cant wait

 

[BestGirl]

I think TDK can be topped with the third film, under the right direction. TDK was a great film but it's not like it was 100% flawless.

There are some things that can be improved:

Getting the focus back on Batman
Bring back Batman's ninja training/hiding in the shadows from BB.
Exploring Batman's detective side
Improving the fight scenes
Much more cerebral villain that can challenge Batman's intellect (The Riddler)
Second villain that can physically challenge Batman (Deathstroke or Deadshot)

Add to this: bring back the classic elements that make Batman unique, like Wayne Manor, the Batcave, the bats, etc.

 

[itsthebatman]

However it might go, I dont think the third chapter will be as dark as TDK was... it seems to follow the "trilogy-structure" of the original star wars films... I LOVE the realistic style they went for in TDK and hope to God that they keep that in the mix.

No Ewoks.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Post of the week.

Agreed.

 

[Rodrigo90]

One aspect on how it can top BB and TDK...

ZOOM OUT FROM FIGHT SCENES AND STOP CUTTING THE GODDAMN CAMERA AT EVERY GODDAMN SECOND. I GOT GODDAMN MOTION SICKNESS.

GODDAMN IS VERY ANNOYING ISNT IT? JUST READ A.S-B.A.R.T.B.W. AND YOULL GET USED TO IT. THE GODDAMN BATMAN,LOL.

 

[Timstuff]

Personally, I'd like to see the ending of Batman 3 borrow a bit from Hush in regards to Bruce and Selina's relationship. Unlike Rachel in BB, who basically said "when you're ready to stop being Batman, give me a call," Selina would be perfectly OK with Bruce being Batman, but more or less tells him "if you're ready to stop being paranoid and antisocial, I'll be around." It'd be an open ending which the audience could interpret either way, and it'd also give them something to work with if they decide to make more Batman movies in the future (which they undoubtedly will).

 

[firstclassclown]

If you get two SOLID award winning actors/actresses in there, it's all in IMAX and, the return of the Joker. Yes, I could see it being the #1 movie of all time. If you get someone like Sean Penn to take over Joker, people will flock to see the performance. And I say throw in Marion Coltier as Catwoman