Captain Marvel Captain Marvel General Discussion and Speculation - Part 2

[Abudefduf]

^ Well, Cumberbatch and Boseman are both older than Blunt and that doesn't seem to be a problem for MS.

Also, I didn't know Larson was only 26. Um. That's a bit too much young imho. I guess I could accept her as the exception since she's so good, but I'd rather see an older actress get the role, for various reasons.

Same here. Blunt's version looks more like a superhero costume.

Exactly. Colors and simpler designs are nothing to be afraid of.
I kind of wish the same team who worked on the Doctor Strange costumes would tackle Carol's, if their work on that movie is anything to go by I think they'd do a pretty nice job.

 

[third3ye]

Also, I didn't know Larson was only 26. Um. That's a bit too much young imho. I guess accept her as the exception since she's so good, but I'd rather see an older actress get the role, for various reasons.

Larson has convincingly played characters who would pass for being in their 30s, I'm not worried about her actual age, she can pull it off.

 

[jr24tw]

Larson has convincingly played characters who would pass for being in their 30s, I'm not worried about her actual age, she can pull it off.

Me neither. But she is the only one from the below 30 actress group that IMO projects the maturity of someone older without trouble.

When I saw people suggesting JLaw I almost had a stroke. Enough of her being put into roles she is over 10 years too young for. She still looks like she is 15 most of the time.

 

[Havok83]

Same here. Blunt's version looks more like a superhero costume. The one in the Strahovski manip just looks like a uniform or a recoloured SHIELD jumpsuit, which is not what I want to see.

It's the equivalent of if a fireman gained superpowers and decided to just fight crime in his fireman's uniform. Or if an airforce pilot just thought she'd stick with her combat gear.

I want Captain Marvel's outfit to look brighter and less of a uniform but more of a costume which bears absolutely no resemblance to either Black Widow or any SHIELD agent.

With the exception of Captain America and Iron Man, I really think they've been trying to maintain relative consistency with the looks by having the costumes be more grounded and not stand out too much from the rest of the group. With the additions of Vision and Spider-Man though, they seem to be branching off a little bit from that. Carol's look can go in either direction

 

[Abudefduf]

The problem wouldn't be the performance, because I agree that Larson appears more mature than she actually is and would definitely be capable of pulling it off.
But casting an under 30 actress as your first female lead would just be a PR nightmare, probably, especially considering the ages of the male leads.

I kinda wish we could ignore this kind of crap but Hollywood has made it impossible.

I really think they've been trying to maintain relative consistency with the looks by having the costumes be more grounded and not stand out too much from the rest of the group.

You're right, I'm just kinda bored of "grounded" costumes.
I'm all for costumes making sense and being reasonably practical, just as long as they don't take it too far.

And colors are grounded, last time I checked they existed in our world. MS, get your **** together.

 

[Loki882]

There's also the fact that there two prominent female heroes so far in the films, are both played by younger women. Scarlett Johansson is in her early 30's now, but she was in her 20's when she first got cast, and Liz Olsen is still in her 20's right now. And I'm fine with it there. But if you have Carol Danvers, who's supposed to be a seasoned military officer, but you cast yet another 20-something year old actress to play her, then it will start to seem like a pattern. Especially since Marvel seemingly has no problem casting male actors in their late 30's, 40's, or even 50's to play their heroes.

So why not an actress in her, say, her mid to late-30's to play Carol?

 

[Mike5575]

There's also the fact that there two prominent female heroes so far in the films, are both played by younger women. Scarlett Johansson is in her early 30's now, but she was in her 20's when she first got cast, and Liz Olsen is still in her 20's right now. And I'm fine with it there. But if you have Carol Danvers, who's supposed to be a seasoned military officer, but you cast yet another 20-something year old actress to play her, then it will start to seem like a pattern. Especially since Marvel seemingly has no problem casting male actors in their late 30's, 40's, or even 50's to play their heroes.

So why not an actress in her, say, her mid to late-30's to play Carol?

Both Zoe Saldana and Evangeline Lilly were in their 30s when they were cast.

 

[Loki882]

True, but Evangeline ain't a superhero yet, and Zoe is still younger than most of her co-stars (and buried under green makeup).

And Carol's whole thing is that she's an experience military woman. An older actress is appropriate imo.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I think slightly older is absolutely important, but I also think we should keep in mind that they're not casting for 2016.

 

[Tg11]

I would rather Marvel go with Yvonne Strahovski as Carol Danvers than Emily Blunt...case in point The Huntsman is exactly why I wouldn't go with Blunt but also at the same time Blunt she is a much higher in demand actress at the moment whereas Yvonne really is not and she is lesser known which is why Marvel tends to go for lesser known actors or actresses

 

[PelvicSorcery]

It's not like The Huntsman was Emily Blunt's big screen debut so I don't know why people keep dwelling on that. Almost every major actor has a bomb at some point. She's had many film successes and has proven to be a fine actress. She's certainly more of a "name" than Yvonne Strahovski...

THOR HIMSELF was in The Huntsman too you know...as the titular character...

 

[Jay Beezy]

There's also the fact that there two prominent female heroes so far in the films, are both played by younger women. Scarlett Johansson is in her early 30's now, but she was in her 20's when she first got cast, and Liz Olsen is still in her 20's right now. And I'm fine with it there. But if you have Carol Danvers, who's supposed to be a seasoned military officer, but you cast yet another 20-something year old actress to play her, then it will start to seem like a pattern. Especially since Marvel seemingly has no problem casting male actors in their late 30's, 40's, or even 50's to play their heroes.

So why not an actress in her, say, her mid to late-30's to play Carol?

Are we talking Major or Colonel here? Because she has a decent sized history in the comics as a Major. And she was also a bit of a prodigy as she's one of those who rose through ranks faster than the average.

Point is, if it's Colonel, then by all means, go for one of the older potentials. But if it's Major, then low 30s should be the floor.

I would rather Marvel go with Yvonne Strahovski as Carol Danvers than Emily Blunt...case in point The Huntsman is exactly why I wouldn't go with Blunt but also at the same time Blunt she is a much higher in demand actress at the moment whereas Yvonne really is not and she is lesser known which is why Marvel tends to go for lesser known actors or actresses

Plus, people can say Marvel are high on Blunt all they want, but I think you can tell that Blunt is not all that high on Marvel like she was when she was in line for Black Widow.

 

[Tg11]

Exactly and Blunt even said herself that she will most likely stop making action films soon especially with the birth of her second child and what not but also Strahovski looks wise she is Carol pretty much and not only that but she can act too but if Marvel even went with Brie Larson as Carol I wouldn't have a problem with that either

 

[Dark Raven]

Blunt would've been amazing as Black Widow, and if she were somehow Carol alongside ScarJo, I'd always be thinking what could've been.

I think Marvel should take a chance on Yvonne. She's not only the perfect age but looks perfect for the part too, and has the charm and personality in buckets.

 

[BatsDC]

Plus, people can say Marvel are high on Blunt all they want, but I think you can tell that Blunt is not all that high on Marvel like she was when she was in line for Black Widow.

lol what

 

[Jay Beezy]

lol what

She didn't explicitly state that, but you can tell she's growing tired of the action movie roles.

 

[jr24tw]

I would rather Marvel go with Yvonne Strahovski as Carol Danvers than Emily Blunt...case in point The Huntsman is exactly why I wouldn't go with Blunt but also at the same time Blunt she is a much higher in demand actress at the moment whereas Yvonne really is not and she is lesser known which is why Marvel tends to go for lesser known actors or actresses

You know people seem to be split on Blunt's performance in The Huntsman. There are those that say she sucked. But I've seen just as many reviews saying she tried to put more layers into her character than there were in the script. I thought she did the best she could with a crappy script and a crappily written character.

Plus, people can say Marvel are high on Blunt all they want, but I think you can tell that Blunt is not all that high on Marvel like she was when she was in line for Black Widow.

Oh so you have had a conversation with Blunt about this? Or have seen an interview with her where she said this? Can you point me to it?

Frankly all I see is Blunt not being all that high on FOX. I think she hasn't been in a FOX movie since they forced her into Gulliver's Travels which made her lose the Black Widow role. She's stuck to Disney and Universal since, with the occassional trip to Lionsgate and Dreamworks and WB. All of her upcoming movies/animations, rumored or confirmed, are also all non-FOX. Of course if they ever do make a sequel for Devil Wears Prada then she will have to return to FOX, at least once.

 

[BoredGuy]

Blunt would've been amazing as Black Widow, and if she were somehow Carol alongside ScarJo, I'd always be thinking what could've been.

I see this statement all the time and I still don't get it...
What about Blunt is so perfect for Widow?? I just don't really see it (outside of how hot she'd look in red hair and a catsuit)

 

[Loki882]

I actually think that Blunt would fit Captain Marvel more than Black Widow, myself.

And in regards to the "well they're casting for the future" idea, well that doesn't stop them from casting older actors to play their roles. Chadwick Boseman is almost 40 and he just started playing BP. Ruffalo, RDJ, Renner, and Bettany were all in their 40's when they started playing their roles (and Renner plays a guy who doesn't have any powers, which makes it all the more telling). Vin Diesel, Paul Rudd, and Dave Bautista are all creeping up on 50, and yet they haven't been playing these roles for that long, etc.

So the idea that, well we have to cast some really young actress to play Carol because "future films" seems like a pretty blatant double-standard.

 

[Dark Raven]

I see this statement all the time and I still don't get it...
What about Blunt is so perfect for Widow?? I just don't really see it (outside of how hot she'd look in red hair and a catsuit)

It's got nothing to do with how hot she may or may not look. It's to do with her physical features which more closely resemble Natasha than ScarJo. Scarlett sometimes still has this milkmaid look. Plus her overall personality fits better with Black Widow than Scarlett's. There's a colder, more sophisticated air about her, perhaps from being British. Blunt just seems to lend more gravitas to her performance.

 

[PelvicSorcery]

I think she can play cold and mysterious better than ScarJo, but it's too late now.

I haven't seen Yvonne in action, so I can't say, but is she really that charismatic of an actress?

I'm always skeptical when people focus primarily on the look when fancasting actresses.

 

[Loki882]

MCU Black Widow is a different take on the character, that Scarlett suits well. Just like MCU Iron Man is actually a pretty different take on that character in terms of his personality than his comic book counterpart, yet RDJ suits it like a glove.

And I don't actually think that Blunt looks anymore like BW physically either TBH.

 

[Loki882]

You know people seem to be split on Blunt's performance in The Huntsman. There are those that say she sucked. But I've seen just as many reviews saying she tried to put more layers into her character than there were in the script. I thought she did the best she could with a crappy script and a crappily written character.


Oh so you have had a conversation with Blunt about this? Or have seen an interview with her where she said this? Can you point me to it?

Frankly all I see is Blunt not being all that high on FOX. I think she hasn't been in a FOX movie since they forced her into Gulliver's Travels which made her lose the Black Widow role. She's stuck to Disney and Universal since, with the occassional trip to Lionsgate and Dreamworks and WB. All of her upcoming movies/animations, rumored or confirmed, are also all non-FOX. Of course if they ever do make a sequel for Devil Wears Prada then she will have to return to FOX, at least once.

When I think of Blunt's abilities as an actress, I think of stuff like My Summer of Love, Edge of Tomorrow, Looper, Sicario, etc. And yeah, she's really good. Also several of those really sell her ability to play a badass action heroine as well.

 

[BoredGuy]

It's got nothing to do with how hot she may or may not look. It's to do with her physical features which more closely resemble Natasha than ScarJo. Scarlett sometimes still has this milkmaid look. Plus her overall personality fits better with Black Widow than Scarlett's. There's a colder, more sophisticated air about her, perhaps from being British. Blunt just seems to lend more gravitas to her performance.

I mean, I guess the British thing can make her seem that way to some, and her Edge of Tomorrow character was pretty hardened and cold at times
But idk, all the interviews I've seen with Blunt she comes off as fairly silly and charming irl

so I think you mix the silly with the hardened and you have Carol

 

[jr24tw]

There's a colder, more sophisticated air about her, perhaps from being British.

And that's why some don't want her as Carol. They want someone who projects more warmth for likeability purpose. Sometimes I think they just watched movies with Blunt where that colder, stand-offish air was required for the part either because she played a British character stereotype or the character needed that.

I thought her character in Adjustment Bureau while being a little crazy was also extremely charming and brimming with life and warmth.