Captain Marvel Captain Marvel General Discussion and Speculation - Part 2

[flickchick85]

I agree, I'd be fine with her being a Major or Lt. Col instead of her current status as Colonel. I was just trying to point out the problem with casting someone too young for this role, as even the younger version of Carol from the comics still has plenty of career experience under her belt.

Also, Brie Larson's about to be an Oscar winner, y'all! Or at the very least, a nominee, but a win's looking likely. I think we can pretty much assume she'll be on the short list at this point.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Larson is definitely the frontrunner to win the best actress Oscar but Ronan is a possibility as well.

 

[flickchick85]

Having seen both films, Ronan gave a lovely heartfelt performance, but Larson is EASILY most deserving, imo.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'll try to see both of them eventually. Room is much more of a priority though.

 

[DrCosmic]

I see that, FC, totally agree. I'm not too concerned. They haven't cast an early 20s girl yet, and I don't think they'll start for the big female solo film.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I wonder how much Carol's role in the upcoming Civil War comic book sequel is going to raise her profile?

 

[Dark Raven]

You know who is 33? Yvonne Strahovski. She's the perfect age to play Carol.

 

[BarryAllen]

I kinda hope they don't take inspiration from the more recent runs. They've been so bland, and essentially sanitized versions of Carol.

I do think we'll get a lot more Kree and cosmic ties that Mar-Vell had with MCU Carol.

 

[flickchick85]

I kinda hope they don't take inspiration from the more recent runs. They've been so bland, and essentially sanitized versions of Carol.

I feel the opposite. To me Carol has much more personality these days than she did in the older runs (in which she often came across as "generic badass military chick" to me), and is generally more likable.

 

[Dark Raven]

Having seen both films, Ronan gave a lovely heartfelt performance, but Larson is EASILY most deserving, imo.

I don't remember that in GOTG.

 

[Jay Beezy]

Exactly.

And to add to that, Carol Danvers is one of the few Marvel characters we've gotten who had a pretty well-established career experience before becoming a superhero, so there should be a pretty clear target age. In the old comics, she's an Air Force major, for which the average age is 33. Since we can assume she's one of the best who rose through the ranks rather quickly, your target range for an actress to play that version would probably be ages 28-35. However, in current comics, she's a colonel with a lot more authority, and the average age for a colonel in the Air Force is...ready for this? Age 45. It is straight up IMPOSSIBLE to become a colonel in today's Air Force in your 20's. So the target range for that version of Carol should be late-30's to late-40's.

Of course they don't have to go with either of those ranks - maybe they'll split the difference and make her a Lt. Colonel - but my point is simple. I just want Marvel to cast Carol at an age appropriate to her experience (whichever rank/experience they choose to give her), as they have done now with Ant-Man (a divorced father formerly respected in his field), Captain America (a young man who volunteered to serve his country during wartime), Thor (an immature young prince), Rhodey (another decorated Air Force Colonel), etc.

I do get a sense there may be an inclination to go relatively younger with the role and pick someone of that age who has a relatively youthful appearance. That way, at her rank, she gets somewhat mocked by her similarly ranked colleagues about her age, but has earned the envy and respect of her peers during her time at the Air Force Academy turned subordinates. The former of which adds a drive for her to succeed and earns the ultimate vindication when she becomes Captain Marvel.

Just my two cents. Not saying it's gonna be that.

 

[flickchick85]

You're probably right, but I don't have to like it, lol. Especially since they didn't feel the need to do that with their male characters. But hey, that's how Hollywood works, so I wouldn't be surprised at all. I just hope if they do, they cast a young actress who can bring a sense of gravitas and maturity to the role. The only notable actresses I can think of in their 20's right now who could do that would be Brie Larson and Lily James. I'm sure there are others that aren't coming to mind, but the list much shorter than if they went age-appropriate, that's for sure.

 

[BarryAllen]

I feel the opposite. To me Carol has much more personality these days than she did in the older runs (in which she often came across as "generic badass military chick" to me), and is generally more likable.

Idk, to me that's exactly how she's being portrayed in these recent runs.

 

[flickchick85]

Idk, to me that's exactly how she's being portrayed in these recent runs.

Yeah we'll just have to agree to disagree there. Kelly Sue gave her quirks, insecurities and flaws that really rounded out her character much more to me.

 

[Jay Beezy]

You're probably right, but I don't have to like it, lol. Especially since they didn't feel the need to do that with their male characters. But hey, that's how Hollywood works, so I wouldn't be surprised at all. I just hope if they do, they cast a young actress who can bring a sense of gravitas and maturity to the role. The only notable actresses I can think of in their 20's right now who could do that would be Brie Larson and Lily James. I'm sure there are others that aren't coming to mind, but the list much shorter than if they went age-appropriate, that's for sure.

If they do go the older route, then definitely Chastain. I've been pulling for her to get a proper Marvel role since her MTV interview about joining the MCU. And I always had her in mind for Carol. Problem is now, when considering the kinds of approaches they might do, I have other people I may want to see get the chance. Larson is on track to fit the younger Carol mold while simultaneously fitting the Chastain mold of having proven she can pull it off. I still don't want to write off those who haven't proven themselves but could surprise us like Daddario.

Just don't forget age-appropriate is relative to version of the character.

 

[flickchick85]

If they do go the older route, then definitely Chastain. I've been pulling for her to get a proper Marvel role since her MTV interview about joining the MCU. And I always had her in mind for Carol. Problem is now, when considering the kinds of approaches they might do, I have other people I may want to see get the chance. Larson is on track to fit the younger Carol mold while simultaneously fitting the Chastain mold of having proven she can pull it off. I still don't want to write off those who haven't proven themselves but could surprise us like Daddario.

Just don't forget age-appropriate is relative to version of the character.

Yes, but the point of my previous post is that no existing version of the character puts "age appropriate" in her 20's. Not even with a high level of suspension of disbelief that she rose through the ranks faster than anyone else. Only if they go super young for a Major, but that's about it. If they make her any higher a rank than that, mid-30's is the sweet spot.

 

[Jay Beezy]

Yes, but the point of my previous post is that no existing version of the character puts "age appropriate" in her 20's. Not even with a high level of suspension of disbelief that she rose through the ranks faster than anyone else. Only if they go super young for a Major, but that's about it. If they make her any higher a rank than that, mid-30's is the sweet spot.

Fortunately, my desired unproven choice turns 30 next month.

 

[flickchick85]

Fortunately, my desired unproven choice turns 30 next month.

Ha, congrats I guess.

 

[Mike5575]

Meg LeFauve talks about writing for the Captain Marvel movie!

“I learned so much from working at Pixar. I learned to not be afraid of that creative turn. To not be afraid of throwing things out. To know that a better idea will always be coming. You learn just inherent craft skills by thinking of a scene really works well on a page but when it goes up visually, you realize ‘No wait, that doesn’t work at all,’ and that’s just by osmosis, learning that, by watching and having it happen. I mean what an incredible privilege to have that as a writer. Nicole [Perlman] and I are in such the beginning stages of Captain Marvel, really just starting to put big blocks down, as again, kind of a creative turn of it could be this, it could be that. So I just think the bravery of letting that turn happen is what I have taken so much from Pixar.”

“It’s incredibly exciting, and I feel lucky, and I feel incredibly lucky to be working with Nicole, who is brilliant. There is a little bit of pressure. It’s like working at Pixar. There’s a little bit of pressure. They’ve won a lot of Academy Awards, you better have your top game. So there is a little bit of pressure with Captain Marvel. But really, Nicole and I just talked and realized that what we can control is that she and I can have a good time, and tell the best story that we know how to tell, that’s what we can control and we can contribute. The rest of it, we are really early stages. Honestly, who is she in this version? Who is her antagonist? Where is she? The giant questions are still what we are working through.”

“I think two ways. One is Nicole and I have each other, so we can help check each other of ‘Let’s just not get into that moment of paranoia that’s swirling. Let’s go back to the story, back to the story.’ I think any bit of writing that you do when you get lost in the fear, my guiding light is to always go back to the character, kind of fight for the character, and who she is, and what story she wants to tell, and she’ll be a specific character. There’s is no way she could stand in for every woman, that wouldn’t be a very good character. It’s about keeping her specific, and telling a great story.”

Honestly, I wish they were further along at this point, but I'm just happy to hear about this little tidbit. She seems to care about the character and is not trying to make this about girl power, but just focusing on the character and what makes her unique and awesome.

 

[Dr. Evil]

They forgot to ask: "Who's going to be the black sidekick?"

 

[AvegningSpider]

They forgot to ask: "Who's going to be the black sidekick?"

¿Monica Rambeau?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I do wonder how they are going to approach the villain or villains in this? I mean, this film happens in between IW's so... Do they use Thanos or not? I know, it seems odd to some but think about if this film does decide to use Marvell in some way. What villain did the Kree Captain face? It could make sense to tie in Carol to Thanos in some way. That is of course assuming some tie Carol would have to a Marvell.

 

[flickchick85]

Yon-Rogg is the most obvious choice, imo. Throw in the Kree forces (and possibly Kree Sentry?) that come along with him and baby you got a stew goin'!

 

[BoredGuy]

yeah that could work, a sentry would be a cool big third act fight for her... they could say the Kree are scouting Earth via Mar-Vell to see if any other infinity stones are here or something, but when he never reported back Yon-rogg brought a sentry to level the planet and keep the stones from falling into Thanos' hands, that way it ties back to Infinity War while giving a valid reason for an Earthling to fight a Kree

 

[HunBoy]

Rob Liefeld said that he's seen the names of four high-profiled actresses in the running for CAPTAIN MARVEL

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/4cyh2t/rob_liefeld_said_that_hes_seen_the_names_of_four/