Captain Marvel Captain Marvel General Discussion and Speculation - Part 2

[MagicalMe]

I was there at that Q&A tonight. There was NO DOUBT it was confirmation she's in Infinity War, imo, the way it went down. Joe reacted immediately when he realized what Anthony said, and they both tried hilariously to backtrack but they knew they screwed the pooch and were having a laugh about it. However, they did NOT confirm she'd be in Part 1, so it's nothing we didn't already assume anyway.

I think the situation you describe does confirm she'll be in "Part 1". Her presence in the second one is all but assured already so I suspect the Russos wouldn't feel the need to backtrack if that's all they were hiding.

 

[flickchick85]

Could be. But the backtracking was the "joking" part others have described. They didn't seem to take their slip-up too seriously and harped on it for the rest of the night, which would make total sense to me if what they let slip wasn't really that big a deal since we all had assumed it anyway. But I like to believe you are correct.

 

[MagicalMe]

Could be, but the backtracking was the "joking" part others have described. They didn't seem to take their slip-up too seriously and harped on it for the rest of the night, which would make total sense to me if what they let slip wasn't really that big a deal since we all had assumed it anyway.

Well, now they've made some people (me) think that she's going to be in it so everybody (I) will be disappointed if she's not.

 

[flickchick85]

Well, now they've made some people (me) think that she's going to be in it so everybody (I) will be disappointed if she's not.

True that.

 

[kvz5]

Feige (via Deadline interview):

http://deadline.com/2016/05/kevin-f...-man-doctor-strange-black-panther-1201750467/

In terms of Captain Marvel, we don’t send out edicts. That being said, we are meeting with many, many immensely talented directors, the majority of whom are female. I do hope they will have announcements certainly by the summer, before the summer’s end, on a director for that.

 

[Logan0327]

kinda weird thing to worry about but i kinda hope we have short hair captain marvel as it would be different

 

[Tg11]

Yes but at the same time I can't see her leading The Avengers in Infinity War and why? Because not only would her character be relatively new to the whole Marvel Cinematic Universe but also she doesn't even have her own origin film well at least not yet so we don't really know Carol all that well on the big screen but also she is one of the more lesser known characters in the whole Marvel universe

 

[Abudefduf]

Well, if she does appear in IW1 she probably won't even have her own powers anyway.
But in IW2? Just you wait till the Avengers witness her photon blasting the **** out of some powerful Thanos' minions, and they will accept her as their leader all right.

 

[Havok83]

Yes but at the same time I can't see her leading The Avengers in Infinity War and why? Because not only would her character be relatively new to the whole Marvel Cinematic Universe but also she doesn't even have her own origin film well at least not yet so we don't really know Carol all that well on the big screen but also she is one of the more lesser known characters in the whole Marvel universe

that and she's inexperienced

 

[Mike5575]

I don't know about inexperienced. Captain Marvel is a seasoned vet in the comics. It's like saying War Machine and Falcon are inexperienced because they just joined The Avengers last year.

 

[Havok83]

I don't know about inexperienced. Captain Marvel is a seasoned vet in the comics. It's like saying War Machine and Falcon are inexperienced because they just joined The Avengers last year.

She's a seasoned vet bc she's been a hero for years and was never made into leader of the team till Mighty Avengers nearly 40 years after her debut. She is not a seasoned vet in the movies

Neither War Machine or Falcon are leaders of the squad. And while they joined the Avengers last year, but have been heroes for longer than that. They are far from inexeperienced as, they've been training and fighting for a while. Carol hasnt even been powered up yet. IW would be what, her 2nd mission? That is inexperienced and not fit to lead a group of veteran superheroes. If she were to come on the scene, having already been powered for a while, then that would be a different story

 

[Mike5575]

She's a seasoned vet bc she's been a hero for years and was never made into leader of the team till Mighty Avengers nearly 40 years after her debut. She is not a seasoned vet in the movies

Neither War Machine or Falcon are leaders of the squad. And while they joined the Avengers last year, but have been heroes for longer than that. They are far from inexeperienced as, they've been training and fighting for a while. Carol hasnt even been powered up yet. IW would be what, her 2nd mission? That is inexperienced and not fit to lead a group of veteran superheroes. If she were to come on the scene, having already been powered for a while, then that would be a different story

War Machine was a seasoned military veteran at the rank of Lt. Col. before he ever became War Machine. That's kind of what I'm getting at. The comicbook character known as Carol Danvers saved the world twice before she even had superpowers.

Her powers involve flying and blasting things. It should be a pretty easy transition from being a top gun fighter pilot. She's not Wanda Maximoff. She's older and more experienced and given her rank in the military, she's more than qualified to lead.

 

[MbJ]

She's a seasoned vet bc she's been a hero for years and was never made into leader of the team till Mighty Avengers nearly 40 years after her debut. She is not a seasoned vet in the movies

Neither War Machine or Falcon are leaders of the squad. And while they joined the Avengers last year, but have been heroes for longer than that. They are far from inexeperienced as, they've been training and fighting for a while. Carol hasnt even been powered up yet. IW would be what, her 2nd mission? That is inexperienced and not fit to lead a group of veteran superheroes. If she were to come on the scene, having already been powered for a while, then that would be a different story

Yeah. If she comes into the story fully powered and having been active (which would be stretching it) I could see it, but not if she only gets powers during the course of the movie.

 

[Panthro]

War Machine was a seasoned military veteran at the rank of Lt. Col. before he ever became War Machine. That's kind of what I'm getting at. The comicbook character known as Carol Danvers saved the world twice before she even had superpowers.

Her powers involve flying and blasting things. It should be a pretty easy transition from being a top gun fighter pilot. She's not Wanda Maximoff. She's older and more experienced and given her rank in the military, she's more than qualified to lead.

And super strength/stamina, don't forget that.

I see no problem with Carol being an already experienced adventurer prior to getting powers either.

 

[Mike5575]

Yeah. If she comes into the story fully powered and having been active (which would be stretching it) I could see it, but not if she only gets powers during the course of the movie.

Captain America lead the Avengers when they first assembled. Carol doesn't need experience as an Avenger. Assuming she has a strong military background, that will be all the experience that she needs. Now, I'm not saying that she should take command when she gets there, but I could see a situation in which she would take command of a team of Avengers. Carol will know more about space than the other heroes and may have a better idea of what's going on. This could possibly make Carol the ideal choice to lead in a given situation.

 

[MbJ]

Captain America lead the Avengers when they first assembled.

Captain America was also an experienced super soldier who had been using his abilities for quite some time by that point.

 

[ernesth100]

Captain America is a natural leader and strategist though. He has like literal on field experience which made him very effective as far as team work goes.

 

[Havok83]

Captain America was also an experienced super soldier who had been using his abilities for quite some time by that point.

This. He's not a novice with his abilities. Its not like leading the Avengers was his first or second outing with his abilities. I think it would be ridiculous of Carol to lead the team on her 2nd outing with her newfound powers against their biggest threat yet.

 

[Mike5575]

This. He's not a novice with his abilities. Its not like leading the Avengers was his first or second outing with his abilities. I think it would be ridiculous of Carol to lead the team on her 2nd outing with her newfound powers against their biggest threat yet.

It's pretty much a moot point since heroes usually master their abilities within 10-15 minutes in their origin story. You want ridiculous? How about a billionaire CEO mastering the concepts of flight with just one TestFlight. Im not saying Carol has to be the leader, but she certainly could emerge as a leader. I could see her leading a team of Avengers. There's enough heroes for them to be broken apart into groups.

 

[Mike5575]

Captain America was also an experienced super soldier who had been using his abilities for quite some time by that point.

Cap's physical abilities has nothing to do with him being a leader. That stuff is internal. It's interesting how people aren't even considering the possibility that she could be an experienced vet before she even gets her powers.

 

[MbJ]

Cap's physical abilities has nothing to do with him being a leader.

They do in this case. The reason people are saying Carol isn't likely to be leading the Avengers in Infinity War is that barring some retcon about her having been active before all this, she'll be a relative newcomer to the world of superheroics, which is why the comparison to Captain America doesn't hold up. He wasn't just a seasoned soldier when he was made leader of the team. He was a seasoned superhero. They aren't gonna make someone who just became a superhero 10 minutes ago into the leader of the Avengers.

We know you like Carol very much. She's just probably not gonna be the leader of the Avengers in Infinity War. I said the same thing when someone in the IW forum said Spider-Man will be leading the team in the movie.

 

[Mike5575]

They do in this case. The reason people are saying Carol isn't likely to be leading the Avengers in Infinity War is that barring some retcon about her having been active before all this, she'll be a relative newcomer to the world of superheroics, which is why the comparison to Captain America doesn't hold up. He wasn't just a seasoned soldier when he was made leader of the team. He was a seasoned superhero. They aren't gonna make someone who just became a superhero 10 minutes ago into the leader of the Avengers.

We know you like Carol very much. She's just probably not gonna be the leader of the Avengers in Infinity War. I said the same thing when someone in the IW forum said Spider-Man will be leading the team in the movie.

I still don't follow. Superheroics are really no different than heroics. In TFA, I saw Cap more as a soldier than a superhero. He lead The Howling Commandoes, which was a small squad of soldiers with no powers. How exactly did that prepare Steve for leading a team of exceptional people with exceptional abilities the likes Cap has never seen before?

I'm sure Cap will be the leader, but it sounds as if the Russos want to put a larger focus on some of the newer Avengers since Cap and Iron Man have plenty of character development as it is. If phase 4 is the start of a brand new Avengers team of Avengers in the lead, then maybe that is set up as the newer heroes take command at a crucial moment in part 2. Maybe it's more T'Challa, Carol, and Strange than Iron Man, Thor, and Cap.

Now, I'm pretty sure Carol won't be leading the Avengers, but I could certainly see her take the lead at some point within a 2 hour film and it could be that she is the best equipped to lead AT THAT TIME. Given her origin involving aliens, maybe she knows something the Avengers don't and time is crucial. She isn't necessarily going to get Captain America's approval. She's going to take the initiative because she's the only one that knows what needs to be done at that time.

Often times leaders aren't necessarily chosen, but they take command and people get in line because that person knows what they're doing.

Okay, I'm biased. I'll admit that, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm wrong.

 

[BatsDC]

You're probably going to be pretty dissapointed if you're expecting Carol to lead the team

Anyway, look what El Mayimbe has posted on Instagram

 

[flickchick85]

So I don't put much stock in the Emily Carmichael rumor, but after reading it I looked up her stuff out of curiosity (she's only done shorts), and man is she quirky. Like, a total nerd in a good way. She's got a couple animated web series that imitate retro 8-bit RPG games, and a live-action sci-fi buddy comedy about an alien and her human buddy who are petty thieves. Or something like that (only saw the trailer for that one). I still say it's probably BS (and for all we know Nicole Perlman just followed her because she liked her stuff), BUT I could also see how her sensibilities might appeal to Marvel.

 

[Havok83]

You're probably going to be pretty dissapointed if you're expecting Carol to lead the team

Anyway, look what El Mayimbe has posted on Instagram

that pic is awesome enough that it needs to be posted on here