Captain Marvel Captain Marvel General Discussion and Speculation - Part 6

[Dark Raven]

Not sure I'd go as late as '98/'99 for the year here (unless the story's dragged out over quite a bit of time, a few jumps forward), but it's definitely seeming as if really-early-90s is ruled out for the meat of the story.

Just don't think Clinton '92 election posters would still be lingering around on walls that far after-the-fact. And the NIN shirt seems to narrow things a bit (in conjunction with the Guns N' Roses one) - both bands are still around of course, but might be able to extrapolate an earliest-possible-year thing from the NIN one specifically. First album was '89, but didn't really break mainstream, so you'd sort of think either the Broken E.P. in '92 is probably the earliest most people would be aware of them, maybe even The Downward Spiral in '94. Sort of seems it's more than likely approaching mid-90s at the earliest here (Guns N' Roses as a big still-relevant cultural thing was sort of over with by the late 90s too), so if Carol has actual combat experience it's probably Bosnia rather than Desert Storm.

Of course, other possibility is they're just not paying so close attention with all this detailing and it could just be anytime. Marvel's seemed pretty specific with this type of thing so far though with the other flicks, so might be an indicator.

Really loving everything we're seeing from this so far though, honestly haven't been this amped for an MCU flick since The First Avenger with Johnston. Just feels like it's going to be a little more straight-up heroic thing with lots of heart to it, rather than some of the more deconstrution-y stuff we've been getting with some of the films since.

Ahhh, the confirmation she's in an F-15 too, eeeeeeee! Of course it was always gonna be a 15 or 16 given the period, but we've seen 16s in a lot of movies over the years. Nice to see my favorite air force hardware of any period getting some love.

Strike Eagles are just ****ing majestic to look at. Hope we get a sort of Bond-ian opening action sequence, pre-powers Carol doin' her thing, some cool banter with other pilots and putting the planes through their paces.

When the Captain Marvel thread and the Top Gun: Maverick thread start to blend into one....

 

[Tg11]

I can see Carol being a cocky arrogant fighter pilot like Tom Cruise's Maverick a la Top Gun at first and then becoming the hero we all know her to be...isn't that the formula for most Marvel heroes nowadays? You act all cocky, arrogant and self absorbed until you come into your powers and then you end up fighting for humanity? Standard formula and I don't see it being any different with Carol becoming Captain Marvel

 

[Abudefduf]

I've been watching people trash Brie on social media for the past two days and now I'm seriously starting to wonder if she was the right choice for the role. I mean, personally I think she's wonderful and I know she'll do a great job as Carol, but... she's also so goddamn uncool, and the "controversial" stuff that she's said in the past has made her such an easy target of mockery.

I don't know, maybe they should've cast someone more boring and less controversial.

 

[Dark Raven]

I've been watching people trash Brie on social media for the past two days and now I'm seriously starting to wonder if she was the right choice for the role. I mean, personally I think she's wonderful and I know she'll do a great job as Carol, but... she's also so goddamn uncool, and the "controversial" stuff that she's said in the past has made her such an easy target of mockery.

I don't know, maybe they should've cast someone more boring and less controversial.

What has she said?

I was never really a fan of Brie's casting. Flickchick suggested Lily James as one of her top choices. I would've been very happy with her as Carol. She's my top pick for Sue Storm now.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I've been watching people trash Brie on social media for the past two days and now I'm seriously starting to wonder if she was the right choice for the role. I mean, personally I think she's wonderful and I know she'll do a great job as Carol, but... she's also so goddamn uncool, and the "controversial" stuff that she's said in the past has made her such an easy target of mockery.

I don't know, maybe they should've cast someone more boring and less controversial.

The idea of less controversial actress might be good, but why more boring?

 

[Manasrepublic]

What has she gotten flak for? The whole TSA agent remark??

 

[Abudefduf]

^ That, and the A Wrinkle in Time thing.

What has she said?

Relatively innocuous stuff that has been blown out of proportion by the whiny manchildren that infest the internet.

The idea of less controversial actress might be good, but why more boring?

Because she wouldn't be Brie Larson.

 

[CaptainMarvel19]

 

[Manasrepublic]

I am really hoping they include semi charmed life early on in the movie. That would be hilarious to include!

 

[flickchick85]

Fingers crossed for Friday!

 

[liesse00]

I've been watching people trash Brie on social media for the past two days and now I'm seriously starting to wonder if she was the right choice for the role. I mean, personally I think she's wonderful and I know she'll do a great job as Carol, but... she's also so goddamn uncool, and the "controversial" stuff that she's said in the past has made her such an easy target of mockery.

I don't know, maybe they should've cast someone more boring and less controversial.

Oh please Don't let them change your mind. Also, "uncool" ? I beg to differ.

 

[Manasrepublic]

It will be a really interesting plot point to see why she was away during all of these global threats in A1 and A2! In some of the stills she looks super confident like in her Kree armor but in pics of her in her classic duds and standing on the grass fists closed she looks really unsure of herself. She probably loses really badly to one of the Kree like Ronin before being more humble about things

 

[Shuri]

I've been watching people trash Brie on social media for the past two days and now I'm seriously starting to wonder if she was the right choice for the role. I mean, personally I think she's wonderful and I know she'll do a great job as Carol, but... she's also so goddamn uncool, and the "controversial" stuff that she's said in the past has made her such an easy target of mockery.

I don't know, maybe they should've cast someone more boring and less controversial.

You shouldn't listen to these people, they are in the minority anyways. I've only seen good things on twitter and tumblr concerning Brie and this movie. The only negative comments I saw were from anti-mcu DC fans that took issue with the, "the future is female" regarding captain marvel.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, I was appalled reading some of the blatantly misogynistic comments at the EW article, and then I saw one asking where all these misogynists came from, and apparently some popular MRA guy posted a link to it and his followers just flooded the site or something. So it's really not a majority voice, just a bunch of disgruntled fanatics who've chosen this movie as one of their "causes." Don't let 'em get you down.

 

[pxrple]

Gal dealt with similar hate stuff about her body and acting ability; if the movie does well none of that will matter

 

[flickchick85]

So apparently the EW article name drops Torfa as a planet Captain Marvel and the Starforce find themselves on. That's the refugee planet at the center of Kelly Sue's "Higher, Further, Faster, More" arc. Probably just a nod, but a nice one.

 

[Pink Matters]

I went to a few different stores earlier today looking for this week's Entertainment Weekly to no avail. (Among them, two different Targets and both had last week's/Aretha Franklin cover story still on display.) I didn't realize trying to find a store that sells EW would be difficult, but I'm gonna try again tomorrow morning.

 

[C. Lee]

I went to a few different stores earlier today looking for this week's Entertainment Weekly to no avail. (Among them, two different Targets and both had last week's/Aretha Franklin cover story still on display.) I didn't realize trying to find a store that sells EW would be difficult, but I'm gonna try again tomorrow morning.

I think new magazines come out on Tuesdays.

 

[Pink Matters]

I think new magazines come out on Tuesdays.

Oh, wow, thank you. I thought it was released yesterday.

 

[Silvermoth]

So apparently the EW article name drops Torfa as a planet Captain Marvel and the Starforce find themselves on. That's the refugee planet at the center of Kelly Sue's "Higher, Further, Faster, More" arc. Probably just a nod, but a nice one.

Nice. I love nods like that

 

[Abudefduf]

Gal dealt with similar hate stuff about her body and acting ability

The difference is that Gal Gadot was playing a literal pop culture icon, not what is currently one of the most hated characters in comic books. A controversial actress playing a controversial character... the next months are going to be a nightmare.

if the movie does well none of that will matter

Tell that to Rian Johnson and Kelly Marie Tran. Last Jedi was both a critical and a commercial success... has that stopped the haters?

I'm just so pissed at Marvel and Ike Perlmutter right now. This movie should've been made years ago, for so many reasons.

 

[pxrple]

Sorry but the general paying audience aren't keeping up with comic books and internet forum discussions so none of that matters, very few people irl even know Captain Marvel and the people that do are probably going to make up like 1% of the box office.
There were sites set up by alt-right trolls to tank Black Panther's audience ratings and there are people online that still go on about how Wonder Woman was an over-hyped mediocre movie but at the end of the day both movies are considered successes and mostly everyone I know in real life loves the both of them.
Star Wars is like a religion to western audiences so ofcourse there's going to be backlash when liberties are taken with the characters and the mythology. At the end of the day the movie just needs to be good and marketed well.

 

[pxrple]

Which of the avengers are you most hopeful Carol interacts with in A4? Really want her and Steve in a scene together since they're both captains and probably have very different leadership styles (their dynamic might just end up being very similar to Cap & Iron Man in the first Avengers movie although Carol probably isn't as cocky as Tony)

 

[Iceman]

I look forward to her interaction with Thor.

 

[Shuri]

Carol & Steve and Carol & Natasha.