Chapter 4: The Kindness of Strangers Discussion 10/15/2007

[hammerhedd11]

My recording of the episode cut off the last five minutes...how did it end?

 

[Marginal Man]

If WEST was an Agent of the Company then it would explain why HRG doesn't know who he is.

 

[Sugarculted]

From a Taskmaster comic. Seems familiar, where have I seen this before?!

Granted, it's probably just pure coincidence.

 

[Savage]

Actually I was hoping someone would get that scan up because it's apparant that somebody's a Taskmaster fan.

 

[Abaddon]

Is it just me or is there a MASSIVE plot hole this season?

Why would HRG man take Claire "underground" only to put her in a school with someone he abducted with the company? Surely he would know West was there?

No, he wouldn't. Who knows how many empowered people he's bagged and tagged. He wasn't responsible for keeping track of them.

i still think it might be a different HRG that kidnapped west

how so?

 

[Ma1o]

i don't think he did, and i think his broken watch is a metaphor for himself.

i tougth the same i dont remember but maya asked whats his name and it shows his broken watch wich made sylar said his real name because sylar is broken just like his watch. without his power he sees himself as gabe. sorry could have worded what i said better but i was reading this forum on the wii.

i have this crazy theory that nathan expierance some radiaton changing his dna makeing himself do something else then fly but i doubt it.

 

[neemer5]

i tougth the same i dont remember but maya asked whats his name and it shows his broken watch wich made sylar said his real name because sylar is broken just like his watch. without his power he sees himself as gabe. sorry could have worded what i said better but i was reading this forum on the wii.

i have this crazy theory that nathan expierance some radiaton changing his dna makeing himself do something else then fly but i doubt it.

Instead of evolving into mutants, how about some good 'ol radiation? Why not?

 

[DarthRekal]

i still think it's a female.

Kristen Bell. thats who im stickin with

 

[Abaddon]

Elle can't survive a rooftop fall.

 

[Matt]

No kidding. Some people probably feel its just too simple and that there has to be a twist behind this, even though Molly explicitly said that Parkman's dad was the "Nightmare Man." That said, I wonder what Mr. Parkman's ability is? Obviously it's clairvoyant in nature since he can detect Molly's presence and it seems likely that he was the one who attacked Mama Petrelli. My guess he's Heroes equivalent of the "Scarecrow" and "Mr. Fear" in that he project fear-inducing hallucinations via telepathy/remote viewing, and that, because they are so intense and seem so real, Mr. Parkman can cause psychosomatic injuries to others, sort of like the old wives tale of if you die in your dreams you die in real life. Which would explain why Molly is terrified of him and how Mama Petrelli injured herself because she was fighting off an "imaginary attacker." It also make him potentially one of the most dangerous people alive.

Molly explicitly stated nothing. She said someone on the picture was the nightmare man. Its not like she pointed to Matt's father and said "ITS THE NIGHTMARE MAN!" or said "Mr.Parkman is the Nightmare Man!" I could be wrong, but it seems like a red herring.

 

[Abaddon]

She said "I'm going to help you find your father" she found him, and he's the Nightmare Man.

 

[Savage]

It's not hard for the Nightmare Man to be in the same place as Parkman's father. Every time Molly even closes her eyes the guy seems to be there. I see it as "I'm going to find this guy--Holy crap! What are you doing here?!".

 

[Abaddon]

It's not impossible, but I think it's improbable.

 

[Mysterio]

Molly explicitly stated nothing. She said someone on the picture was the nightmare man. Its not like she pointed to Matt's father and said "ITS THE NIGHTMARE MAN!" or said "Mr.Parkman is the Nightmare Man!" I could be wrong, but it seems like a red herring.

ok, Matt...let's go over this again.

close-up of Parkman's finger pointing to his father in the picture. Parkman tells Molly he needs her to find his father. She freaks out. Parkman asks, "why not? what's wrong?" Molly answers, "because he's the man in my dreams. he's the nightmare man." later, Molly comes out of her room and says she'll help Parkman find him.

 

[Matt]

Find his father. I'll help you find your father were her words. Which is why I see it as a red herring.

 

[Savage]

Yeah, when has Heroes NOT done something like this? 4 episodes in and we get the identity of the Nightmare Man? And so low key. I think the reveal of the man's identity would be a liiittle grander but hey, if this is it, I'm dissapointed but I'll accept.

 

[Tyrinus]

Find his father. I'll help you find your father were her words. Which is why I see it as a red herring.

Well in the episode I watched she clearly referred to Matt's father as being the nightmare man, as quoted above by someone else.

 

[Krimasen]

Was anyone else thinking "cross-promotion" when they showed the WWE on the TV?

 

[Sugarculted]

Actually I was hoping someone would get that scan up because it's apparant that somebody's a Taskmaster fan.

I am one of the very few
Off subject, but I wish they'd stop changing his costume. Prefer his UDON designed one, much more modern.

It is a bit of a shame we find out so fast, but I feel assured by just the previews that he will kick all kinds of ass with his powers

 

[Mysterio]

Yeah, when has Heroes NOT done something like this? 4 episodes in and we get the identity of the Nightmare Man? And so low key. I think the reveal of the man's identity would be a liiittle grander but hey, if this is it, I'm dissapointed but I'll accept.

four episodes in, yes, but the character has been around since last season.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

^^^good call mysterio.

I dont understand this bored sometimes. you get people who complain that the pace of the show is moving to slow but when you get reveals of stuff people complain that it happened to early. Make a decision you cant ask for faster pacing but get upset when things are answered it just doesnt work

 

[NateGray]

Hey Sylar stole that illusion chick's power right? How about he actually figures out how to use his powers again and turns into West?...Just throwing that out there. I mean who here can't see Sylar kiling HRG?

I have proposed this exact same theory only that he is pretending to be West to kill Claire and steal her power and that of course means HRG would have to die.
Thats one of the better ideas that or West does works for the company because we do not know who or how Claire gets to be talking to Elle and Bob but we have seen the screen caps so we know its going to happen and I am pretty sure that scene is coupled with her and West falling.

 

[Mysterio]

we also saw a painting of a cheerleader with her head cut open. turned out to be jackie. so we have no idea if it's claire and west (or someone pretending to be west).

 

[Captain_BluTac]

i want theretobe more to west but for him not to be a villain

 

[Mysterio]

i'll be glad when he goes away. can't stand the actor.