Chapter 5: "Fight or Flight" Discussion 10/22/07

[Sawyer]

In Ireland, a lost Hero attempts to move beyond the past, but discovers that a mysterious woman -- Elle (guest star Kristen Bell) -- is willing to kill to find him. Matt and an unexpected ally fly to Philadelphia to hunt down the "boogyman," following his terrible attack on Molly (guest star Adair Tishler), but the pair finds themselves outmatched. Monica tries to come to terms with her new abilities and her role as a local hero. Suresh meets his new partner and gets a disturbing assignment. H.R.G. takes a step to further protect his family. Meanwhile, as Hiro continues to fix the past in feudal Japan, Ando attempts to piece together historically what's happened to his best friend. David Anders, Noah Gray-Cabey, Hayden Panettiere, Adrian Pasdar, Zachary Quinto, Dania Ramirez, Milo Ventimiglia also star. Alan Blumenfeld, Katie Carr, Jimmy Jean-Louis, Carlon Jeffery, Nichelle Nichols, Dominic Keating, Holt McCallany, Eriko Tamura, and Stephen Tobolowsky guest star. Source: NBC

 

[Red]

Yay! Lets make threads before anyone else. 10 points!!

 

[Sawyer]

Is there a problem?

 

[Mysterio]

Is there a point?

 

[Darkdd]

Oooh, Kristen Bell works for the company!

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Chapter 4 just aired

 

[hlbimage]

You can view and download the commercial for this episode here along with an HD avi file.

 

[GNR]

This one is gonna be a doozy.

Good looking preview.

 

[Watson]

In Ireland, a lost Hero attempts to move beyond the past, but discovers that a mysterious woman -- Elle (guest star Kristen Bell) -- is willing to kill to find him. Matt and an unexpected ally fly to Philadelphia to hunt down the "boogyman," following his terrible attack on Molly (guest star Adair Tishler), but the pair finds themselves outmatched. Monica tries to come to terms with her new abilities and her role as a local hero. Suresh meets his new partner and gets a disturbing assignment. H.R.G. takes a step to further protect his family. Meanwhile, as Hiro continues to fix the past in feudal Japan, Ando attempts to piece together historically what's happened to his best friend. David Anders, Noah Gray-Cabey, Hayden Panettiere, Adrian Pasdar, Zachary Quinto, Dania Ramirez, Milo Ventimiglia also star. Alan Blumenfeld, Katie Carr, Jimmy Jean-Louis, Carlon Jeffery, Nichelle Nichols, Dominic Keating, Holt McCallany, Eriko Tamura, and Stephen Tobolowsky guest star. Source: NBC

All hail the return of Veron...I mean Kristen Bell!!!

 

[Xplicit Content]

I really hope the writers managed to take advantage of Kristen with this character. A part of me hopes Elle will be Veronica Mars...just with powers.

 

[fu manchu]

You can view and download the commercial for this episode here along with an HD avi file.

Fight or Flight looks like it going to be amazing.....can't wait to see Bell, either.

Also, was that Matt's ex wife holding a baby?

 

[Dodger]

I can't wait for this one. The ending of the commercial was awesome. Who was the lady holding the baby? parkman's wife?

 

[Archangel]

Yeah, that was her.

 

[Mysterio]

interesting that they had a chapter titled "Lizards" and now they have one titled "Fight or Flight".

 

[Captain_BluTac]

here are some previews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDgLBRc-6FU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btHix5gjfMkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btHix5gjfMkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btHix5gjfMk

in the second one parkman talks about the nightmare man as if he isnt his father

 

[Booznian]

"Now we know know why Molly calls him the 'Nightmare Man'".

LOL <3 Can't wait.

 

[stillanerd]

here are some previews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDgLBRc-6FU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btHix5gjfMk

in the second one parkman talks about the nightmare man as if he isnt his father

No, what he actually says is "Now we know why Molly calls him the 'Nightmare Man.'" Doesn't necessary mean that Matt doesn't think his dad isn't the Nightmare Man because Molly told him last episode that he is. Also, you have to remember that Matt hasn't seen his father since he was 13, so naturally there's not as much familiarity there.

And speaking of next weeks episode, I'm going to go out on a limb that there's no coincidence that "Elle" bears a resemblance to Claire. Remember Claire's biological mom Meredith from last season, the one who was pyrokinesis? Well, my guess is that Elle is Meredith's younger sister, which would make Elle Claire's biological aunt on her mother's side. Of course, that might not be revealed for a couple of episodes yet.

On that notion, here's a wild idea: what if Peter is not Mr. Petrelli's son? What if Peter is actually the son of Angela Petrelli and...Kaito Nakamura? After all, they wouldn't just throw out the notion that Mama Petrelli and Kaito were having an affair without some kind of repercussions. Plus it further connects Peter to Hiro in that they would be half-brothers.

 

[Magneto29]

I don't think so... Peter and Nathan look alike, and neither look Japanese...

 

[stillanerd]

I don't think so... Peter and Nathan look alike, and neither look Japanese...

Biological children where one of the parents is oriental and another is not don't necessarily look Chinesse, Japanesse, or whatever. Just look at the late Brandon Lee and Dean Cain.

 

[Sawyer]

Peter is possible, but I'm not too certain. Like Magneto said, he doesnt look Japanese. As for Nathan, certainly not. In War Buddies, it showed that Dallas and Nathan look alot alike.

 

[web-head5]

heck they prolly even put some make-up on adrian and got him to stand in as nathan's dad for that group pic of "the 12". i thought they looked pretty similar.

 

[Abaddon]

Peter as Hiro's brother? uggh.

 

[Watson]

And speaking of next weeks episode, I'm going to go out on a limb that there's no coincidence that "Elle" bears a resemblance to Claire. Remember Claire's biological mom Meredith from last season, the one who was pyrokinesis? Well, my guess is that Elle is Meredith's younger sister, which would make Elle Claire's biological aunt on her mother's side. Of course, that might not be revealed for a couple of episodes yet.

This is slightly plausible, but I feel like it would be too much going on in the way of family plot twists. They don't all have to be related.

Peter as Hiro's brother? uggh.

Word.

 

[stillanerd]

Peter is possible, but I'm not too certain. Like Magneto said, he doesnt look Japanese. As for Nathan, certainly not. In War Buddies, it showed that Dallas and Nathan look alot alike.

Well, Nathan being the son of Dallas and Angela Petrelli is a given. However, it could be plausible that Peter is the son of Kaito Nakamura and Angela Petrelli, which would mean that Peter and Nathan are still brothers, but only half brothers.

This is slightly plausible, but I feel like it would be too much going on in the way of family plot twists. They don't all have to be related.

I agree that it would be a little too much and I'm not all that keen on the idea myself, but ask yourself why in the world would this season of Heroes introduce the notion that Hiro's dad and Peter's mom were lovers? That little factoid has to have some significance for later. Plus, consider this:

It's been pretty well established that Angela didn't think much of her husband when he was alive, and didn't really seem all that affected about his death during Season 1. In contrast, she was very emotionally reactive towards Kaito, and she doesn't hide the fact that she had a prior relationship to him to the cops, which hints that he was the man she really loved. Also, look at how she treats her sons. Towards Nathan, she regards him merely as a tool, someone who could be used to advance whatever agenda she has in mind. But with Peter, she is very protective of him, clearly favors him over his more successful brother, and is very distraught, and has shown so last season, over her belief that Peter is dead. It could be just playing favorites, but if Peter was result of her affair with Kaito, the man she really loved, then it explains why she shows so much more affection towards Peter than she does towards Nathan, the result of her marriage towards Dallas.

 

[Booznian]

How much of a twist would it be if future hero is a baddie, and went back in time to basically put Hiro on this path where present Hiro goes baddie?

aww =[