Apocalypse Characters in Apocalypse

[marvelrobbins]

I think people need to start checking out the comics and especilly the age of apocalypse
comics and not the animated shows. This film will be loosly based on age of apocalypse while we don't know what they are taking from it but in that storyline the horsemen are with Apocalypse of their own freewill.

Angel as teenager and adult In 1980's says you should only count FC and 1973 parts of DOFP as relvent.

The thread is also turning into studio wars again.

 

[GuestStar2004]

There will very likely be horsemen or at least replacements for horsemen, purely for action purposes

Like DOFP be prepared for some changes though that won't be like the comics

 

[def28]

I think people need to start checking out the comics and especilly the age of apocalypse
comics and not the animated shows.

Everyone discussing seems more then aware of the comics. You don't know how this will play out anymore then anyone else.

Ultimately they pick and choose whatever they want and are tied to nothing.

 

[Cyclonus]

In my opinion, save Gambit/nightcawler/Angel in the OT cast film, if thats possible.

Let X-Men Apocalypse focus on the younger version of Cyke/Storm/Jean and the origins of Apocalypse plus Magneto's brotherhood which should feature Toad/Quicksilver, also include the younger version of Sabretooth. And no horsemen yet, just give Apocalypse his alliance of evil (like 3 to 4 mutants to fight with the 80s X-Men/Brotherhood).

I could go with that idea.

 

[Mr.M]

Gambit would be 5-6 years older than the OT characters with this timeline, so they couldn't go with someone like Tatum in an OT film. It would have to be an actor like Josh Holloway or someone in their late 40's or 50's.

 

[GuestStar2004]

the reason they are getting tatum is because they feel they can use him for a solo, i doubt they will go out their way to get a different older actor for an OT movie after

But i personally think gambit will be in Apocalypse and they will make him shine because they want to get a reaction from the audience that will help a solo at the box office and also and get fox to officially green light a solo

 

[def28]

the reason they are getting tatum is because they feel they can use him for a solo, i doubt they will go out their way to get a different older actor for an OT movie after

Yeah, they hired Tatum with the intention of holding on to him. Not recasting Gambit after 1 film. Defeats the purpose of why they hired him in the first place.

He didn't sign up to be dropped.

 

[psylockolussus]

I think people need to start checking out the comics and especilly the age of apocalypse
comics and not the animated shows. This film will be loosly based on age of apocalypse while we don't know what they are taking from it but in that storyline the horsemen are with Apocalypse of their own freewill.

Angel as teenager and adult In 1980's says you should only count FC and 1973 parts of DOFP as relvent.

The thread is also turning into studio wars again.

First of all, there's no studio wars again. I know you're into that but sorry, no.

And second, even if the story is based on AoA, still some of the horsemen in the comics were brainwashed or something by Apocalypse. Well thats kinda what happened to Polaris in the comics when she became a horseman.

Gambit would be 5-6 years older than the OT characters with this timeline, so they couldn't go with someone like Tatum in an OT film. It would have to be an actor like Josh Holloway or someone in their late 40's or 50's.

Channing Tatum could definitely work with the OT cast, well he's already 35 years old. He's older than Shawn, Anna, Daniel and Ellen. Channing working with the OT cast is just my personal preference but I do think we are really gonna see him in the FC 2016 film.

And Josh Holloway, he would be great as Gambit. But of course we all know he turned down the role.

 

[Electrix]

I can remember Jeremy Renner had a minor complaint about The Avengers because he signed on to play Hawkeye but spent half the film playing brainwashed Hawkeye which isn't that challenging or rewarding. He just had to look blank and take part in action scenes.

Having major characters (Wolverine, Mystique, Xavier, Magneto) as horsemen is a cool idea but someone will have to tell the in-demand Lawrence that she has to take 5 months off in 2015 to play a brainwashed Mystique for a good chunk of time. Same with the other actors. It's hard to have character development and arcs (which actors like) if characters are possessed or just playing evil for half the film.

 

[Mutant 77]

We don't need Angel. His powers manifested in 1997, when he was just a teen. He's out of the continuity picture, along with Colossus, Rogue, Shadowcat.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I can remember Jeremy Renner had a minor complaint about The Avengers because he signed on to play Hawkeye but spent half the film playing brainwashed Hawkeye which isn't that challenging or rewarding. He just had to look blank and take part in action scenes.

Having major characters (Wolverine, Mystique, Xavier, Magneto) as horsemen is a cool idea but someone will have to tell the in-demand Lawrence that she has to take 5 months off in 2015 to play a brainwashed Mystique for a good chunk of time. Same with the other actors. It's hard to have character development and arcs (which actors like) if characters are possessed or just playing evil for half the film.

See i don't believe they are going to turn the FC Into brainwashed and have focus of film be on newbees fighting them.

Wolverine Is a possibilty as a brainwashed servent of Apocalypse due to

Spoiler

Mystique finding him and rescuring him from lake In DOFP

plus that has happened In Comics but Apocalypse has also had servents who join him willing like in age of Apocalypse.

This Is last film with FC actors under contract.The focus Is sure to be on them,Apocalypse,wolverine,and possibly Gambit-depending on how large a role he has In film

 

[Duran Man]

Simon Kinberg on Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PETJo87Bdig

"[Quicksilver] would absolutely be back for the next X-Men movie."

Yay!

 

[Great Mind(s)]

What about Dazzler?? This is the PERFECT time

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Plus I can't see this based that closely on AoA with them just having a dystopian future story in DOFP.

 

[SuperT]

Plus I can't see this based that closely on AoA with them just having a dystopian future story in DOFP.

Definitely. I can see them taking some plot elements from that story (Four Horsemen, Apoc wanting to destroy humans etc.) but I honestly don't think there's going to be an altered timelines or time-travel so soon after DOFP. It would be redundant.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Thing is, if [BLACKOUT]the original trilogy Jean/Scott/Storm/Beast/Rogue are shown as alive and happy at the end of DoFP[/BLACKOUT] then there is absolutely no sense of peril to be found in Apocalypse (aka what actually happened).

There has to be fractured timelines and possibly more time travel for there to be any hope of us believing in the threat of Apocalypse in the 1980s.

 

[BoredGuy]

I just really hope they don't try to do AoA in any way, shape, or form
without Xavier killed off, the story doesn't have the same impact, or even make sense

we have one movie now with time travel and an alternate reality, doing it again in the next film would be silly

 

[kasjan]

We don't need Angel. His powers manifested in 1997, when he was just a teen. He's out of the continuity picture, along with Colossus, Rogue, Shadowcat.

Yeah, but someone has to come from different decade and wake up Apocalypse.
Apocalypse sleeps (recover) in his hibernation sanctuary, that's why we don't see him in trilogy, and he still sleeps in 80's in new reality, what leads to

Spoiler

happy future

in DOFP. So something out of time has to happen this time in 80's that will lead to awake Apocalypse and again dystopian future. Maybe it's Apocalypse himself from future and he will take Archangel with him to 80's. Maybe they kill Xavier in 80's what will lead to AOA with old cast.

 

[Mutant 77]

Yeah, but someone has to come from different decade and wake up Apocalypse.
Apocalypse sleeps (recover) in his hibernation sanctuary, that's why we don't see him in trilogy, and he still sleeps in 80's in new reality, what leads to

Spoiler

happy future

in DOFP. So something out of time has to happen this time in 80's that will lead to awake Apocalypse and again dystopian future. Maybe it's Apocalypse himself from future and he will take Archangel with him to 80's. Maybe they kill Xavier in 80's what will lead to AOA with old cast.

I understand your point, but I don't think they are gonna resume time travel in the next entries.

In 2023 they were happy. This doesn't mean they did not fight Apocalypse in the past.

 

[kasjan]

If they fought in past against him and this doesn't make future being dark, then he's meh villain. I want to see Cable or Bishop making mess, that will awake Apocalypse in 80's.

 

[Mutant 77]

If they fought in past against him and this doesn't make future being dark, then he's meh villain. I want to see Cable or Bishop making mess, that will awake Apocalypse in 80's.

We don't know what happened to Bishop in Timeline Sigma.

 

[Mr.M]

I think it will be another time travel device that manifests in 1980. That's the only way to maintain the stakes so that Apocalypse is perceived as an ominous threat in that decade. Apocalypse could send Stryfe, Legion, or some equivalent to assassinate Xavier in this new timeline. And I agree that Xavier has to be assassinated if they are adapting AoA. The benefit of doing this is the impact it has on the story, but also because you wouldn't need to recast Xavier in the future if Patrick steps down. Then again, I can't see another actor stepping in for older Magneto either at this point.

I think we should view whatever ending we get in DoFP as its own timeline that isn't contingent on happenings in the 1980's. But since that is really confusing (having parallel universes run in tandem) the only way to solve this is to retain a time travel element to maintain the unpredictability in a period piece film.

It's also a good way to set up an OT film in 2018 without having to use Patrick and Mckellan. Xavier would officially be dead in the new timeline, and Magneto could retire having been the new headmaster all along, or pass on from old age. Then the Summers' could be running the school as headmasters, leading a new team of mutants. That's just one way to do it.

 

[kasjan]

Spoiler

I hoped for Scott and Jean keeping a little baby at end of DOFP, and someone take this baby to future

..., that will lead to Apocalypse movie. Singer said DOFP leads to Apocalypse, is there something in move that tells you the next one, is story with Apocalypse? Or movie doesn't lead to Apocalypse like Singer said and there is only after credits scene?

 

[psylockolussus]

I do think Apocalypse will be an introduction to Apocalypse, then the real chaos/apocalyptic moments will happen in the 2018 X-Men film. If they are hyping Apocalypse this early, surely they wouldn't just use him for 1 film, right?

 

[Duran Man]

Quicksilver will have expanded role in X-Men: Apocalypse

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/05/21/quicksilver-will-have-expanded-role-in-x-men-apocalypse

"The plan was to use him in the next X-Men movie and have him expand his part and grow into the franchise” explained Kinberg. “That was the thought. But now people have seen the movie and he’s one of the most beloved things in the film universally, there’s no question that he’s going to be a big part of the next movie."

Actor Evan Peters is also great in the role, and Kinberg added that he’ll have more to work with in the sequel: "Hopefully we can do more some unique things with his powers, and go a little deeper with the character too."

Yep. Family reunion.