Contest of Marvels II Thread 1

[Darthphere]

Match 6:

Spider - Exiles (HELLSTORMER) bio

vs.

Captain Britain - Brian Braddock (DARTHPHERE) bio

Captain Britain, what a gentleman, who will utterly kick your ass. Breakdowns:

Captain Britain: Superhuman strength, reflexes, stamina, senses and durability;
Flight

Spider- I dont feel like reading through that damn link

I'm going in blind here and say, that Captain Britain wins. His powers are more than enough to be able to dodge and counter any attacks done by Spider. He can fly, has superhuman strenghth, reflexes, senses, thats more than enough to do some damage on the itsy bitsy Spider.

Captain Britain wins.

 

[hippy fascist]

Agatha Harkness Vs Black Tom Cassidy



Ok, this should be an interesting match...

Finding a clear indication of agatha's powers is nigh on impossible. She's one of those characters that has SO MUCH power and flexibility with it that an accurate description would take three or four pages so I'll coble together what I can. Basically think doctor strange with boobs and a pension and you wouldn't be too far off t:

Powers

Known Powers:
Sorcery: The ability to tap this universe's infinite store of ambient magical energy and manipulate these to a variety of effects. A skill derived from three major sources:

personal powers of the mind/soul/body,

powers gained by tapping the universe's ambient magical energy and employing it for specific effects

and finally, powers gained through the tapping of extra-dimensional energy by invoking entities or objects of power existing in mystical dimensions tangential to her own. The latter means of power is usually gained by the recitation of incantations.

Some of these effects include forming magical energy bolts with a high degree of potency and control.

Erect energy shields or screens with a high degree of imperviousness to both physical and magical damage,

create illusions,

teleportation across the face of the Earth or into a mystical dimension,

thought-casting over short or vast distances in a manner virtually identical with telepathy,

levitation and astral projection.

Agatha has a vast knowledge of sorcerous spells and incantations invoking names and aspects of various extra-dimensional objects and beings of power. Through these incantations the magi is able to call upon these extra-dimensional power sources for very specific effects without taxing the personal abilities.

And now some major feats from her history

She trained the scarlet witch (the one who was so powerful she could rewrite the entire marvel universe as she saw fit)

She resurected wonder-man

She turned the sandman into a solid lump of granite (not that impressive compared to the other feats but kind of key to my argument...)

Ok, so on arriving at the battle ground she'll throw up a nigh on impervious shield. I'm not sure how black tom controls plants but these have been shown to resist both physical and magical attacks of great force in the past, WITHOUT impeding her casting abilities. Basically she can create a shield just as powerful as sue storm has ever produced.

Now agatha i faced with several options from here on out

First thing she will do is throw out an ever increasing ring of hire to imolate pretty much all plant life in it's path. Given that tom is made of wood this is going to do some major damage!

Next up we have her ability to transmutate both organic and non-organic matter as shown by her encounter with sandman. Black tom can control plant life on account of basically being comprised of it. With a wave of her hand she can turn him into charcoal (be re-alligning the basic carbon atoms in his body) Send out another ring of fire and he's toast

Another alternative is to bring demons into the fight. She has shown on many occasions that this is well within her power.

Finally if by some amazing stroke of luck none of the above work she could simply banish him to a hell dimension, as she did to nicholas scratch after he repeatedly attacked her.

The final thing to discuss is prep time. Agatha will see tom. See a big tree with a face and automatically assume magic is afoot. She will throw up her shields and start throwing fire

Tom on the other hand will see a weak old woman and employing the arrogance he is well known for make stupid mistakes and underestimate his opponent causing him to lose the match

WINNER: AGATHA HARKNESS!

 

[hippy fascist]

Okay, interesting match, and one that will be decided by teh fact that Black Tom is a lunatic.

This match is like a mad fool jumping into the bear pit at the zoo. Yeah the lunatics got balls but he's still going to get mauled and eaten!

Powers:

Black Tom is basically a giant living plant organism. He looks like a tree, and can bond with all forms of plant life and control them. This makes it extrmeely difficult for him to be killed or seriously injured since he is in so many plants at once.

Good thing agatha has the kind of power that burn every piece of plantlife in asgard with a few words and a wave of her hand...

He can also siphon the life energy out of his oponents "by sticking special tendrils into their body cavities". i will be the first to say that doing that to Agatha Harkness is just a terrible terrible image.

He'd have to break through her shields which is highly doubtfull. These tendrils are no tougher than garden vines. He relies on being in a wooded area and people not seeing them. Not a problem here. If he hides in the woods agatha will simply burn them to the ground.

Agatha Harkness is a witch. She can cast a bunch of spells. She is also very old.

And also very immortal. A bunch of spells is something of an understatement...

As for Prep time, neither will probably get any info on the other. And I am sure both know of Asgard, but I don't believe either have really visited the place.

But agatha as a mystique will probably have various texts pertaining to the lore, layout and nature o asgard. Black tom's pretty much boned other than knowing it's the home of the gods.

For the fight, Black Tom would instantly start merging with all the plant life and foliage in Asgard (which from the most part, looks to have quite a bit of plant life.) A big factor here is that Asgard is a magical place. It is very likely that by merging with the plants from Asgard, that Black Tom could easily have some sort of magical power boost. I'm not saying he would be all powerful or anything, but a certain resistance to magic is VERY possible, since that seems to happen to everyone else that absorbs magic in the MU.

They have, however, never been shown to be flame proof. i'd need a clarfication on this but I'm pretty sure all that plant life was burning during the ragnarok.

Secondly, this is a mystical places where magic is on the very wind. If anyone's going to get a powerboost here it's agatha

Finally, as stated in my opening debate agatha's shields are resistant against both magic and physical damage so...

Now Black Tom will start going after Agatha righ taway, but she won't be helpless. She probably knows some decent spells, but an important factor here is that she won't go all out and try and kill Black tom. It's just not in her nature. It would also be pretty impossible to teleport him somewhere else, since he is basically everywhere. He surrounds her with his roots and all, and can't be pinned down to one location very easily.

Now here's the thing, agatha is nice as pie if you're one of the good guys but one look at tom and he'll know this is a nasty piece of work. A violent psychopath. Don't let the nice old lady routine fool you. Agatha has a vicious streek when it comes to evil doers. She transformed sandman into solid rock, hell she even expelled nicholas scratch to a hell dimension. Did I mention? SCRATCH WAS HER SON. If she can condemn her own flesh and blood to an eternity of suffering I think sending a mad evil irishman to his death or simply doing the same and warping him to another dimension is well within her means.

Also, Black Tom is a vicous bastard. He will not hesitate to kill an old lady. He has no real sense of honor here and isn't looking for a fair fight. If he can, he will lurk in the trees, and strike her dead from behind.

As stated before, hide in the trees? Great, loads more kindling to make sure he gets barbecued good and proper!

Another important factor here is that Agatha is old. Very old. While she defiantely knows some spells, all magic taxes a person physically. And generalyl, the more powerful the spell, teh harder it is on the body. She simply doesn't have the endureance to constantly be casting fire spells at Black tom only to have him appear in yet another tree. At a short amount of time, she would grow very tired and Black tom would kill her.

To reiterate a section of her powers

Agatha has a vast knowledge of sorcerous spells and incantations invoking names and aspects of various extra-dimensional objects and beings of power. Through these incantations the magi is able to call upon these extra-dimensional power sources for very specific effects without taxing the personal abilities.

She'll be busy relaxing while these power sources do the work for her...

Black Tom has too much of an advantage by beign abele to be almost everywhere around her, and not having to care about taking a life.

Winner- Black Tom Cassidy

Black tom would have an advantage against most opponents, this I will agree. But against agatha he's simply outclassed

WINNER: AGATHA HARKNESS!

 

[kytrigger]

Agatha Harkness Vs Black Tom Cassidy



Ok, this should be an interesting match...

Finding a clear indication of agatha's powers is nigh on impossible. She's one of those characters that has SO MUCH power and flexibility with it that an accurate description would take three or four pages so I'll coble together what I can. Basically think doctor strange with boobs and a pension and you wouldn't be too far off t:

She is nowhere near as powerful as Strange. Almost every single person in the MU that uses magic is given the description of "vast magical nigh omnipitent forces" or some crap like that.

Powers

Known Powers:
Sorcery: The ability to tap this universe's infinite store of ambient magical energy and manipulate these to a variety of effects. A skill derived from three major sources:

personal powers of the mind/soul/body,

powers gained by tapping the universe's ambient magical energy and employing it for specific effects

and finally, powers gained through the tapping of extra-dimensional energy by invoking entities or objects of power existing in mystical dimensions tangential to her own. The latter means of power is usually gained by the recitation of incantations.

Some of these effects include forming magical energy bolts with a high degree of potency and control.

Erect energy shields or screens with a high degree of imperviousness to both physical and magical damage,

create illusions,

teleportation across the face of the Earth or into a mystical dimension,

thought-casting over short or vast distances in a manner virtually identical with telepathy,

levitation and astral projection.

Agatha has a vast knowledge of sorcerous spells and incantations invoking names and aspects of various extra-dimensional objects and beings of power. Through these incantations the magi is able to call upon these extra-dimensional power sources for very specific effects without taxing the personal abilities.

Yeah, I agree with all that, even though most of it is basically just repeating the simple line of "she use magic". Some of the things she obviously won't be using like Astral projection also.

And now some major feats from her history

She trained the scarlet witch (the one who was so powerful she could rewrite the entire marvel universe as she saw fit)

Yeah, what an awesome feat. She was supposed to teach Scarlet Witch to control her powers and not be be bat-**** insane. Good job on that one Agatha. I'll point out that Agatha did not in any way give Scarlet Witch any of her power. Scarlet Witch rewrote the universe of her own power, not because Agatha gave her more power.

She resurected wonder-man

yep. Shows she cares for human life.

She turned the sandman into a solid lump of granite (not that impressive compared to the other feats but kind of key to my argument...)

She did this knowing it would not kill him (important to my rebuttal)

Ok, so on arriving at the battle ground she'll throw up a nigh on impervious shield. I'm not sure how black tom controls plants but these have been shown to resist both physical and magical attacks of great force in the past, WITHOUT impeding her casting abilities. Basically she can create a shield just as powerful as sue storm has ever produced.

True, but eventually, she will wear out physically. I knwo part of her bio said it doesn't tax her, but read it carefully. Only 1/3 of the way she uses her powers don't tax her physically. The other parts still do.

Now agatha i faced with several options from here on out

First thing she will do is throw out an ever increasing ring of hire to imolate pretty much all plant life in it's path. Given that tom is made of wood this is going to do some major damage!

But she has no idea whether or not that would kill Black Tom. She would most liekyl assume it would since he's made of wood and all. She does not just go around killing people. It's not in her nature. And yes, she banished her son to a different dimension. Why? Because she knew he needed to be punished and beaten, but could not bring herself to kill him.

Next up we have her ability to transmutate both organic and non-organic matter as shown by her encounter with sandman. Black tom can control plant life on account of basically being comprised of it. With a wave of her hand she can turn him into charcoal (be re-alligning the basic carbon atoms in his body) Send out another ring of fire and he's toast

This would kill him. Something she won't do.

Another alternative is to bring demons into the fight. She has shown on many occasions that this is well within her power.

Yes she could bring a demon or two. These demons won't really stand a chance against Black Tom and basically just give him somethgin to feed on/absorb. She can bring in a couple, but it's not like she can bring in an army to overpower Black Tom. Also, if I remember correctly, these are pretty weak demons. These aren't Blackheart level demons or anything.

Finally if by some amazing stroke of luck none of the above work she could simply banish him to a hell dimension, as she did to nicholas scratch after he repeatedly attacked her.

No she couldn't. Black Tom is everywhere. For her to banish him, she would have to suck up the entire area, uncluding herself. Especially since Black Tom will have been surrounding her.

The final thing to discuss is prep time. Agatha will see tom. See a big tree with a face and automatically assume magic is afoot. She will throw up her shields and start throwing fire

I already talked about how Agatha won't resort to killing Black Tom with fire.


Winner- Black Tom Cassidy

 

[kytrigger]

Good thing agatha has the kind of power that burn every piece of plantlife in asgard with a few words and a wave of her hand...

good thing she wouldn't do this in a million years if she thought it would kill someone.

He'd have to break through her shields which is highly doubtfull. These tendrils are no tougher than garden vines. He relies on being in a wooded area and people not seeing them. Not a problem here. If he hides in the woods agatha will simply burn them to the ground.

no she won't. she doesn't kill

And also very immortal. A bunch of spells is something of an understatement...

By immortal do you mean died in a fire? She was resurrected, but only by Scarlet Witch. She didn't have a hand in her own resurrection. If "a bunch of spells" is an understatement, then "ver immortal" is quite an overstatement.

But agatha as a mystique will probably have various texts pertaining to the lore, layout and nature o asgard. Black tom's pretty much boned other than knowing it's the home of the gods.

Hse might, but I don't see how that would help her. How would knowing Asgardian lore give her an edge planning wise?

They have, however, never been shown to be flame proof. i'd need a clarfication on this but I'm pretty sure all that plant life was burning during the ragnarok.

Even if it was, her decimating all the plant life in Asgard so she can kill her opponent is ridiculously out of character.

Secondly, this is a mystical places where magic is on the very wind. If anyone's going to get a powerboost here it's agatha

That hs never been the case with other magicians. If some of her magic is actually comes form Asgard, then yes, but it has never shown to come from there, and I highly doubt it would since that magic only goes to actual Asgardians usually. Just because the place is magical doesn't mean every single magician is in tune with it and gets a power boost.

Finally, as stated in my opening debate agatha's shields are resistant against both magic and physical damage so...

Yes, but she would eventualyl wear down. You compare it to Sue Storm's shield, and jsut like Sue, Agatha still "feel" every punch or stab that is blocked. Maybe not much, but it is still straining.

Now here's the thing, agatha is nice as pie if you're one of the good guys but one look at tom and he'll know this is a nasty piece of work. A violent psychopath.

Wait, how does looking like a tree clue her in to him being evil and sadistic? Generally most humanoid trees aren't evil.

Does that look evil? Him being a tree will in no way make her think he is instantly evil. If anything, she will think he is one with nature and be a gentle soul since all magicaians seem to love nature.

Don't let the nice old lady routine fool you. Agatha has a vicious streek when it comes to evil doers. She transformed sandman into solid rock, hell she even expelled nicholas scratch to a hell dimension. Did I mention? SCRATCH WAS HER SON. If she can condemn her own flesh and blood to an eternity of suffering I think sending a mad evil irishman to his death or simply doing the same and warping him to another dimension is well within her means.

1. She knew turning Sandman into rock wouldn't kill him, she doesn't know that fire wouldn't kill Black Tom (enough of it probably would)

2 SHE didn't banish her son. New Salem did. form wiki:

Outraged, Scratch attacked, swaying the community against him. The New Salem community then banished him to a dimension known as the Dark Realm.

As stated before, hide in the trees? Great, loads more kindling to make sure he gets barbecued good and proper!

well tachnically he won't be hiding in the trees, he will BE the trees, and the roots etc. She won't burn him blah blah blah (you know my defense by now about that t: )

To reiterate a section of her powers

Agatha has a vast knowledge of sorcerous spells and incantations invoking names and aspects of various extra-dimensional objects and beings of power. Through these incantations the magi is able to call upon these extra-dimensional power sources for very specific effects without taxing the personal abilities.

Right a SECTION of her powers come from extra dimensional objects. Only 1/3 of her powers do so, the rest are used by her own physical powers, and considering that we have seen her shields be broken before, I would venture to say that they aren't a part of that extra dimensional stuff.

She'll be busy relaxing while these power sources do the work for her...

The hell she will. And don't stick your tongue out at me mister! t:

Black tom would have an advantage against most opponents, this I will agree. But against agatha he's simply outclassed

Like almost all magicians in the MU agatha can be described as having hugeamounts of power, but is never actually seen using all this power she supposedly has. Does Agatha Harkness have the ability to take out Black Tom? Yes. But the problem is that the only way to really beat Black tom is to completely kill him, and that is something Agatha will not do. She left the New Salem witch community because she wanted to be with humans. She loves humans and mutants alike, and would never just go around killing one. She would die before she did that.

Also, I would like to point something out. Some of her greatest feats weren't actually her doing. Agatha didn't revive Wonderman from death, Scarlet Witch did. Many of Agatha's larger feats were done when she came back to life. Actualyl, she didn't come back to life. Scarlet Witch was just insane (good job mentoring her Agatha) and reanimated her corpse. All the power she had, wasn't even hers, it was Scarlet Witch's.

WINNER- Black Tom

 

[kytrigger]

Here's another point to make about her being old and magic being tough for her. This comes from another Agatha Harkness bio:

Abilities: Agatha has no known fighting skills. Her old age reduces her ability to perform strenuos tasks.

Couple this with the fact that 2/3 of her powers she does need physical strength to use/maintain and we have Agatha not being able to endure too much of Black Tom's assault.

Winner- Black Tom

 

[hippy fascist]

She is nowhere near as powerful as Strange. Almost every single person in the MU that uses magic is given the description of "vast magical nigh omnipitent forces" or some crap like that.

[/i] Yeah, I agree with all that, even though most of it is basically just repeating the simple line of "she use magic". Some of the things she obviously won't be using like Astral projection also.

Yeah, what an awesome feat. She was supposed to teach Scarlet Witch to control her powers and not be be bat-**** insane. Good job on that one Agatha. I'll point out that Agatha did not in any way give Scarlet Witch any of her power. Scarlet Witch rewrote the universe of her own power, not because Agatha gave her more power.

yep. Shows she cares for human life.

She did this knowing it would not kill him (important to my rebuttal)

True, but eventually, she will wear out physically. I knwo part of her bio said it doesn't tax her, but read it carefully. Only 1/3 of the way she uses her powers don't tax her physically. The other parts still do.

But she has no idea whether or not that would kill Black Tom. She would most liekyl assume it would since he's made of wood and all. She does not just go around killing people. It's not in her nature. And yes, she banished her son to a different dimension. Why? Because she knew he needed to be punished and beaten, but could not bring herself to kill him.

This would kill him. Something she won't do.

Yes she could bring a demon or two. These demons won't really stand a chance against Black Tom and basically just give him somethgin to feed on/absorb. She can bring in a couple, but it's not like she can bring in an army to overpower Black Tom. Also, if I remember correctly, these are pretty weak demons. These aren't Blackheart level demons or anything.

No she couldn't. Black Tom is everywhere. For her to banish him, she would have to suck up the entire area, uncluding herself. Especially since Black Tom will have been surrounding her.

I already talked about how Agatha won't resort to killing Black Tom with fire.


Winner- Black Tom Cassidy

Ok, so I'm not going to counter all of these points i will simply propose an alternate strategy in line with what you see as agatha's beliefs.

Shields up, quick incantation and all of a sudden every spec of dirt turns to stone. Suddenly there's nowhere for the roots to go and many would be crushed. Tom is cut off since he can't spread through the route structure, she teleports his treelike body to another dimension, fight over.

Alternatively she could transform him into an ickle bunny rabbit, either way with the dirt turning to stone (or at least the dirt within a couple of hundred yards) he's cut off an defenseless, he can control other plant life but without roots to connect him he can't spread.

Finally, you seem to have missunderstood his powers. If you get rid of his body, the plants revert to normal. He controls and absorbs roots, he cannot transfer his mind into them. All she really has to do is geta line of sight against him, focus and drop a ring of fire around him, this would disconnect any roots and allow her to teleport him out of the location.

WINNER: AGATHA HARKNESS!

 

[hippy fascist]

Here's another point to make about her being old and magic being tough for her. This comes from another Agatha Harkness bio:

Couple this with the fact that 2/3 of her powers she does need physical strength to use/maintain and we have Agatha not being able to endure too much of Black Tom's assault.

Winner- Black Tom

Strenous tasks are things like carrying kids around. She's never been shown to tire that much simply from using magic, speaking and hand gestures aren't all that strenuous.

Also with regard the shields getting battered by tom and it's effect, guess which part is being transfered to te objects of power. That means he can smash away all day, and have absolutely no impact on agatha

WINNER: AGATHA HARKNESS!

 

[kytrigger]

Ok, so I'm not going to counter all of these points i will simply propose an alternate strategy in line with what you see as agatha's beliefs.

Shields up, quick incantation and all of a sudden every spec of dirt turns to stone. Suddenly there's nowhere for the roots to go and many would be crushed. Tom is cut off since he can't spread through the route structure, she teleports his treelike body to another dimension, fight over.

Alternatively she could transform him into an ickle bunny rabbit, either way with the dirt turning to stone (or at least the dirt within a couple of hundred yards) he's cut off an defenseless, he can control other plant life but without roots to connect him he can't spread.

Finally, you seem to have missunderstood his powers. If you get rid of his body, the plants revert to normal. He controls and absorbs roots, he cannot transfer his mind into them. All she really has to do is geta line of sight against him, focus and drop a ring of fire around him, this would disconnect any roots and allow her to teleport him out of the location.

WINNER: AGATHA HARKNESS!

I don't see any way how Agatha would now that Black Tom control all plants through roots before the fight? For all she knows, he just looks like a tree. He could easily control the plants through other means like mentally (which he does). Not to mention that if she assumes he's just a living plant, crushing all of his roots would pretty much kill him by that line of though. So yet another thing she wouldn't do.

As for his powers, this is from marvel.com

Since his transformation into a plant-like being, Cassidy can grow to immense size, thus gaining superhuman strength, and can regenerate damaged or destroyed body parts with great speed. He can also mentally control all plant life within his vicinity, and can distribute his consciousness amongst plants he controls.

While he does go through roots, it's obvious that he also has mental control over plant life. It is very possible for him to transfer his consciousness mentally also.

And he can transfer his mind to plants in a way since he has been shown to create dopplegangers of himself that act pretty independently.

Winner- Black Tom

 

[kytrigger]

Strenous tasks are things like carrying kids around. She's never been shown to tire that much simply from using magic, speaking and hand gestures aren't all that strenuous.

Also with regard the shields getting battered by tom and it's effect, guess which part is being transfered to te objects of power. That means he can smash away all day, and have absolutely no impact on agatha

WINNER: AGATHA HARKNESS!

Strenous tasks are things like carrying children and using mystical forces. Even a much more powerful magician like Strange has shown that physical exhaustion comes with using magic (especially shields). And the fact that the description of her shields is in a completely separate paragraph than the part about "some powers not using physical exertion" thing can show that it is not apart of those extra-dimensional forces.

 

[hippy fascist]

I don't see any way how Agatha would now that Black Tom control all plants through roots before the fight? For all she knows, he just looks like a tree. He could easily control the plants through other means like mentally (which he does). Not to mention that if she assumes he's just a living plant, crushing all of his roots would pretty much kill him by that line of though. So yet another thing she wouldn't do.

Ok, I've heard this argument again and again in this tournament and it only seems to come up when one character is severely outclassed. Fact of the matter, she respects life but she will not give up her own to save an evil being. Once she realises this fight is to the death she will do what she has to. End of story.

As for his powers, this is from marvel.com
While he does go through roots, it's obvious that he also has mental control over plant life. It is very possible for him to transfer his consciousness mentally also.

But his main form is still required to maintain this. If you teleport the original black tom away, that's it. He can't simply abandon his body and move into something else. So all she has to do is teleport tom away. Well within her power and it falls inline with your no killing theory.

And he can transfer his mind to plants in a way since he has been shown to create dopplegangers of himself that act pretty independently.

Winner- Black Tom

This is true but tom has to be within their viscinity. As stated, he will be teleported away, they will lose their anima, agatha wins.

WINNER: AGATHA HARKNESS!

 

[hippy fascist]

Strenous tasks are things like carrying children and using mystical forces. Even a much more powerful magician like Strange has shown that physical exhaustion comes with using magic (especially shields). And the fact that the description of her shields is in a completely separate paragraph than the part about "some powers not using physical exertion" thing can show that it is not apart of those extra-dimensional forces.

Please ky, don't play the grammar police card. The shields are an example of what she can do. Also check the wiki, I seperated it out myself to make each point clearer. These objects and forces can be used to erect shields, how my argument is formatted has no bearing on that. They'll keep the shields up and agatha will win...sorry but this is like silver surfer going against jubilee in the power stakes. Tom's simply outclassed.

WINNER: AGATHA HARKNESS!

 

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!

 

[Hellstormer]

Captain Britain, what a gentleman, who will utterly kick your ass. Breakdowns:

Captain Britain: Superhuman strength, reflexes, stamina, senses and durability;
Flight

Spider- I dont feel like reading through that damn link

I'm going in blind here and say, that Captain Britain wins. His powers are more than enough to be able to dodge and counter any attacks done by Spider. He can fly, has superhuman strenghth, reflexes, senses, thats more than enough to do some damage on the itsy bitsy Spider.

Captain Britain wins.

This is suicidal Spiderman with a symbiote. That means expirience+ruthlessness+enhanced symbiote powers=a dead Captain Britain

Yes I mean dead, Spider will enter the arena, toy a little then as soon as he gets bored he'll go for every kill oppurtunity without holding back. Everythings life or death with him.

A breakdown of his powers: All of SPiderman's power enhanced plus organic webbing and shapechanging abilities (i.e. turning the sybiote arm into a sword). His strength is easily the same if not mroe then Caps

Winner=Spider

 

[Hellstormer]

2 minute diffrence, should I delete it?

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Durok

Agatha - too much magic for tom

Black panther - would have voted Ironclad with an inkling of a debate

Spider - he is lethal

 

[wiegeabo]

2 minute diffrence, should I delete it?

Techincally Phaed was five minutes early.

If Darth doesn't have a problem with it, or wants to put in a last second counter, it should be fine.

 

[wiegeabo]

Durok (really wanted to vote for Dane, and still think he has a shot)
Agatha Harkness (kept going back and forth on debates)
Black Panther (Vibranium against a metal body. Not a good combo)
Captain Britain (probably a hell of a fight to see)

 

[kytrigger]

Black Tom
Durok
Captain Britain (real tough fight though)
Black Panther

 

[Darthphere]

Techincally Phaed was five minutes early.

If Darth doesn't have a problem with it, or wants to put in a last second counter, it should be fine.

No problem, I mean you guys gave us a whole extra day to debate, but whatever, I wont be rebutting it either.

 

[wiegeabo]

Well, we're on a new schedule now. So you get to debate until Wednesdays.

 

[Darthphere]

Well, we're on a new schedule now. So you get to debate until Wednesdays.

I know.

 

[Hellstormer]

Spider
Agatha, Doctor Strange w/ (saggy) boobs
Black Panther, the Fantastic Four thing gave it
Durok

 

[Harlekin]

Durok
Black Tom - Very convincing and too much speculation concerning Agatha's capabilities.
Black Panther
Spider - It's his ruthlessness, not his powers, that seal the deal here.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Durok
Black Tom (awsome debate though, I kept switching sides)
Black Panther
Captain Britain