That really belittles what her powers really are. These are the same powers as Sunfire, which are as follows:
Sunfire can biochemically ionize matter and convert it into the super-heated plasma state of matter, generating temperatures of about 1,000,000 Degrees Fahrenheit which he most often releases as force blasts from his hands. Sunfire can recharge and enhance his stored power by absorbing both solar and electromagnetic energy. He can also view his surroundings in the infrared spectrum. Sunfire can create super-heated air currents which enable him to fly while leaving a trail of flame behind him. Sunfire also generates an invisible field of psionic energy which protects him from the heat and radiation generated by his own powers, as well as from outside sources. The field also shields him from air friction and the light generated by his plasma, as well as lending a certain level of protection from kinetic impact.
SPEED 4
ENERGY PROJECTION 4
FIGHTING SKILLS 4
That is much, much more than infrared and control of flame, I think you'd agree. Combine this with Rogue's natural abilities, she is actually not the pushover some might think of her to be.
It really isn't more than infra-red control and flame. it's the same thing, only drawn out longer.
Now, looking at Magneto, he's not the all-powerful character people like to make him out to be. His Intelligence, Speed, and Energy Projection are all at a 5 level (which is pretty good, but not as great as many people probably think of him), and his strength and durability is only a 2, with fighting skills at a 3.
His strength is only a 2 when he doesn't augment it. when he augments himself he has shown to be MUCH stronger than that. Also, as for durability, he is no pushover. He once took a direct hit form Colossus to the head WITHOUT his shield on and shrugged it off(he was pretty messed up but could still fight). Kurt even said that a punch like that would have knocked most people's heads off.
Sadly, there isn't an up-to-date bio on Rogue with good stats. But, her fighting skills with the X-Men coupled with the memories she's gotten from Sunfire make her higher than Magneto.
She is more than likely a better ahnd-to-hand fighter than Magneto. I won't refute that. But how often does Magneto just get into a sluggging fest? He would never just go out and start punching someone. That isn't his style.
Plus, I would put her strength and Durability higher than Magneto, too.
Straight up physicaly strength? yes. But she is nowhere near strong enough to actualyl get through his shields which can stop nuclear weapons (one of which he actually pretoected her from the blast too). As for durability, no way. When it comes to using the powers, Magneto is one of the best. He has shown complete mastery over his powers and has shown to be able to use them for a ridiculously long time. Rogue, while very good, is still getting used to her powers. She is good with them, but in now way has mastered her Sunfire powers. It's just not possible since she really hasn't had them for that long.
The difference is that Magneto usually preps to fight someone with flames. He will be going in totally blind to the situation. Plus, Sunfire's abilities are different from Johnny's.
But that doesn't matter. We have seen that Magneto has his shields up ALL THE TIME. Especially if he knew he was going into a fight. He woudl know pretty quickly that Rogue has newer powers as it's pretty obvious. From there, he can easily adjust to any situation. While he likes to have a plan, Magneto has also shown many times that he can make battle plans up on the fly.
Plus, as noted in his bio, he can use Electromagnetic Energy, which Magneto will be using, and convert it into power. Ooops, Magneto just got a little screwed!!!
HAHAHA. Magneto didn't get screwed at all.
Every single time a mutant uses the electromagnetic spectrum against Magneto he royally messes them up. He has taken over control of Storm's lightning, taken over Dazzler's powers, and even controlled Banshee's screama just because they use the spectrum and nobody has greater control over that than him. If anything this has screwed Rogue since Magneto would A) know instantly that she is absorbing it and B) completely shut it off now allowing her to absorb any energy.
If you look at appearances from past stories with the X-Men and Magneto, you will see this past history always seems to come into play. There is always a mention about their past. It does effect them both, and even many future timelines show that they tend to hook up in the future or alternate futures.
yeah it does come into play, but what I meant was that it has never stopped him from fighting her, and it won't now. Sure, he won't kill her, but she wouldn't kill him either. They both are going to fight and fight hard.
What you fail to mention is that Magneto always has other members helping him, too. Whether the Acolytes or The Brotherhood. So, it's really unfair to envision him as this sole person always fighting the entire X-Men. It's generally never the case. So, I call that a very bad example of his ability to sometimes beat the X-Men.
Fine, he often doesn't fight the X-Men alone, but he has before. He has also fought the Avenger alone, and that was a powerful team inlcuding Iron Man, Thor, She-Hulk, and Cap. While it is true he usually doesn't figth alone, he defaintely has and definately can. I would say he's more used to fighting alone than Rogue is.
Furhermore, he ash shown that he can easily withstand high temperatures liek the ones Rogue will be shooting (hell, hes standing next to and controlling lava):
He has also shown that even though he ahs a history with Rogue, he is not above messing her up. Here, he completely stops her motor functions. She ends up being fine, but it does compeltely stop her in her tracks.
Rogue's a good fighter and a very good X-Man, but Magneto is just out of her league.
Winner- Magneto
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