Daredevil Daredevil General Discussion Thread - Part 6

[Bruce Malone]

A good representation of the interplay between Punisher and Daredevil and their differing philosophies

 

[Whatupman]

A good representation of the interplay between Punisher and Daredevil and their differing philosophies

I really hope that we'll see a version of that whole prison arc in a future season. Like maybe season six, if we would be lucky to get so many seasons.

 

[FataLethal]

The Devil In Cell Block D. That storyline was amazing.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Yeah I've just started it, really good.

 

[BarryAllen]

I just wish Marvel would stop with the whole "it's all connected" schick since that doesn't appear to actually be true.

Well, it's still all connected because they exist in the same world. If you think about real life, you exist in the same world as the President, but you don't run in the same circles as him. It's the same principle applied to the street-verse characters, AOS and the Avengers. I get that in the comics, everyone shows up everywhere, but in a semi-real world like the MCU, you can't have that full suspension of disbelief.

The way I would go about executing it by having easter eggs in the movies that acknowledge the existence of the TV characters. Like have supporting characters from the show who won't be heavily tied down by continuity appear in the movies. Maybe even mentions of names that appear in the Netflix-verse. Like have Rand Corporation or the New York Bulletion get namedropped in Spidey's movie or something.

 

[Marvel Spider]

(Slightly) new pic of the suit from the Netflix site taken from the final episode:

 

[TheVileOne]

Think that pic went out when the show was launched earlier this year.

 

[Marvel Spider]

Think that pic went out when the show was launched earlier this year.

You're probably thinking of this one:

They are basically the same though, just different angles.

 

[Web-Head]

So, looks like it's being released in March...

 

[cytokine]

Beat me to it! :P

Can't wait. So happy it's a shorter wait than expected. Hope it's early March and not late!

 

[Marvel Spider]

So, looks like it's being released in March...

That's from Moviepilot, which is open to anyone to write an article. And the author didn't even post a source. So I'm ignoring it until Netflix confirms an actual date.

 

[Flint Marko]

I just wish Marvel would stop with the whole "it's all connected" schick since that doesn't appear to actually be true.

Except that it is all connected.. Lol.

 

[TheVileOne]

It is connected, just maybe not as connected as we might want. Or not quite as connected as they build it up to be.

The way I consider the Netflix shows, these are sort of the dark corners of the MCU that the Avengers dare not tread. These are the dark shadows where they can't look. Why? These are different types of problems they can't really solve. These are dirty, mucky areas that they cannot walk, but people like Daredevil and Jessica Jones can.

 

[Herolee10]

I wonder if we'll ever see the Netflix shows incorporate some of the well known Advanced Technology that we've seen in everything else related to the MCU (Agents of SHIELD & Agent Carter).

I mean we've seen people using holographic computers and gadgets that are very hi-tech; all of which appearing like a normal thing within the MCU.

And yet when it comes to the Netflix shows, you don't get the impression that they live within a world where holographic computer screens, flying cars, and quinjets exist.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Yeah its clear that the movies handle national, international, and galactic threats. But there are heroes that run around in the streets next to the cops and firefighters and handle threats too small for big guys and too dangerous or more personal to themselves and the people of the streets. I dont see the need to be convinced by having someone from the movies show up on netflix or vice versa.

 

[pixen]

I wonder if we'll ever see the Netflix shows incorporate some of the well known Advanced Technology that we've seen in everything else related to the MCU (Agents of SHIELD & Agent Carter).

I mean we've seen people using holographic computers and gadgets that are very hi-tech; all of which appearing like a normal thing within the MCU.

And yet when it comes to the Netflix shows, you don't get the impression that they live within a world where holographic computer screens, flying cars, and quinjets exist.

I really hope they steer clear of all that. The Netflix shows work because they are more grounded and not so focused on flashy tech/and getting lost in weird concepts. I'm hoping they manage to stay away from that for as long as they can.

 

[BatsDC]

 

[yllum]

its really funny when u think about it..someone like Matt (who kinda have special power-enchanced senses) needed body armour and suit etc.

Yet the punisher with no special power just goes around doing his business in jacket and shirt

 

[Mike Murdock]

I really hope they steer clear of all that. The Netflix shows work because they are more grounded and not so focused on flashy tech/and getting lost in weird concepts. I'm hoping they manage to stay away from that for as long as they can.

The only thing I'd like is for Misty Knight to get a certain robotic arm.

 

[ctsketch]

its really funny when u think about it..someone like Matt (who kinda have special power-enchanced senses) needed body armour and suit etc.

Yet the punisher with no special power just goes around doing his business in jacket and shirt

Firstly in set photos we see him with a bullet proof vest sometimes.

Second, Matt fights people with guns and knives with his bare hands.....punisher just shoots them

 

[BatsDC]

 

[HunBoy]

 

[Silvermoon]

Daredevil season 2 to have faster pace, Punisher morality debate

Daredevil season 2 to have faster pace, Punisher morality debate
Exclusive behind-the-scenes preview of the new season
BY JAMES HIBBERD • @JAMESHIBBERD
Posted December 29 2015 — 8:52 AM EST

Marvel’s Daredevil is shaking things up in season 2 with a faster pace, more romance, and some morally complex storytelling that introduces the controversial gun-touting super-antihero The Punisher.

When the Netflix series changed showrunners after season 1, we’ll admit to being a tad concerned. The first season was TV’s first superhero show targeted exclusively to grown-ups and writer-producer Steve S. DeKnight pushed Marvel’s envelope with brutal violence and bold storytelling risks.

So will Daredevil morph into Marvel’s Agents of Hell’s Kitchen for season 2?

Not at all. After visiting the New York set earlier this month and watching the first two episodes of the upcoming season, we can report showrunners Doug Petrie and Marco Ramirez retain what fans loved about the first year while also flooring the narrative accelerator. Remember how the first season waited until the end of the third episode to give fans a glimpse of Kingpin (Vincent D’Onofrio, who isn’t expected to appear this season)? The delay worked as the show focused on introducing its heroes and building up Kingpin’s sinister reputation. By contrast, season 2 opens with an action scene and very quickly introduces Frank Castle a.k.a. The Punisher (The Walking Dead’s Jon Bernthal). This also works. “The advantage of any sequel is you can dive right in,” Petrie says. “We hit the ground running and then we ran as fast as we f—ing could.”

As comic fans know, Castle is an ex-Special Forces soldier with a tragic past who becomes a New York vigilante. He has the same clean-up-the-streets mission as Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox), except he uses guns instead of beatdowns and quite simply murders every criminal he can find. Whether he’s a hero or a villain is left open to interpretation (and has long been argued both ways by fans online), but the first couple episodes will definitely have many viewers supporting his techniques.

The Punisher is considered a divisive character because Marvel and D.C. superheroes, as a general rule, avoid ever using guns. Notable exceptions include Captain America when he was fighting in WWII and a few others like Hellboy and Deadpool. But Castle is like a walking NRA ad; a hero for the Year of Donald Trump who hunts down and executes everyday street criminals and gang members, not just supervillains and their henchmen. Expect him to be compared to Murdock as viewers are pressed to analyze the difference between the two.

“Viewers watching the show will be rooting for this guy with a gun but we’re also going to force people — the way we force Matt — to second-guess themselves,” Petrie says. “Taking lethal justice into your own hands in America in 2015 is tricky s—t. We have not shied away from the rich complicated reality of Now. If you’ve got a gun and you’re not the police you’re going to incite strong feelings. We’re stirring the pot and we’re aware of the headlines where we live and we’re trying to get people to think.”

Ramirez adds the team talked a lot about Taxi Driver’s famous malcontent Travis Bickle when shaping their version of the character. “He has a different moral code,” he says. “Matt is a devout Catholic — and you rarely see a character who’s a devotee anything on TV. Frank has Hammurabi’s Code. It’s like letting a great white shark into the water.”

Bernthal conveys an unstoppable menace for The Punisher and sports a relatively anonymous non-flashy costume at the outset of the season that allows him more freedom of movement around New York than Daredevil. The actor says he felt plenty of pressure to get this character right. ”People have been coming up to me on the streets of New York saying, ‘Do not mess this up,’” says Bernthal, who for months walked alone to the Daredevil set across the Brooklyn Bridge to help get into Castle’s isolated and joyless headspace. “This character has resonated with law enforcement and military. He’s brought the war home with him in the worst possible way. And the best thing about him is that if he offends you, he just doesn’t care.”

Daredevil season 2 will have more sex as well. While the first season was relatively chaste, season 2 will get steamier as Matt gets closer to Karen (Deborah Ann Woll) and then his old college girlfriend resurfaces. You know, Elektra (Elodie Yung), which introduces another antihero into the mix, one that’s very different from the Jennifer Garner big screen version.

“Matt’s a deeply moral complicated guy and she’s just the best bad girlfriend you can possibly have,” Petrie says. “She does everything wrong and attractive, she’s his id, the wild side. Matt is always taming his wild side. Elektra just lets it out. He’s both repulsed and deeply drawn to that.”

Daredevil returns sometime in 2016. For more scoop from the upcoming season, pick up Entertainment Weekly’s First Look issue, on newsstands now — or available for purchase here — and keep an eye out for more reveals this week on EW.com.

 

[kguillou]

Sigh...so just as I thought, he won't be sporting the skull. While completely understandable in this more realistic, gritty world they're building, its disappointing that Frank won't have his classic insignia. I had a strong feeling they were going in that direction.

 

[Silvermoon]

Sigh...so just as I thought, he won't be sporting the skull. While completely understandable in this more realistic, gritty world they're building, its disappointing that Frank won't have his classic insignia. I had a strong feeling they were going in that direction.

Just because he doesn't wear it in the first 2 episodes (which is all EW has seen) doesn't necessarily mean he won't *ever* wear it.