You're absolutely right and I think what most of us are talking about is based mostly on stereotypes or popular beliefs. Like for V-Day, the expected behavior for a man is to get his girl flowers and chocolates. But of course, it depends on whether the individual actually wants that. Some girls will like it and some might not.Again, this just isn't true. Predictability is not normal because the world is not predictable, people don't live in a vacuum. Guys and girls. If you're straight your guy friends unpredictability probably doesn't bother you, because it's not preventing you from getting laid or finding a girlfriend. Guys just don't connect with other guys like they do with girls. There is no sex. If you're straight that intimacy isn't there. Girls can behave however they are, no different from guys. They're individuals at the end of the day. They're brains are made with the same genetic plan as any human brain. As I said: women are not a social construct.
What part of "women aren't a social construct" is so hard to understand. Women are people, they behave like people, and they're no harder for you to understand than your typical guy. If you think WOMEN are hard to understand it's because you're trying too hard to understand them.
I've heard this same thing. Like I heard this thing once where girl complicate other girls about clothing and make up partially because deep down they are jealous of the other girl and compare things like looks and style, but guys don't normally do that or even express any kind of attention to other guys.When you have all of that going on, it is much easier said than done about women no harder to understand than a typical guy for a typical guy. I'd say the same for women but I seeing more and more women themselves talking about how they can't stand hanging around women. You don't hear the same from a guy. Just saying.
They are really not that different. Some men do see them as a social construct. I usually find them to have the most problems. Sex is not complicated. It's completely straightforward. Some of the consequences are complicated, but its a behavior with consequences like anything else. You don't ever have to deal with women, you have to deal with one woman or some women but never all women. So you don't ever have to worry what the social construct thinks because they don't hold meetings and put you on "no sex list". Doesn't happen.Us guys on some level want to understand women but surely you have to admit that most women have different ways of doing things than men. How a guy acts with another guy is obviously different than how a guy acts with a woman, and how a woman acts with another, and even more different if it includes sex and intimacy. Then you're trying to connect on several different levels, and for some people its harder to truly connect, which is why through overcomplicaton, some men see women as a social construct.
When you have all of that going on, it is much easier said than done about women no harder to understand than a typical guy for a typical guy. I'd say the same for women but I seeing more and more women themselves talking about how they can't stand hanging around women. You don't hear the same from a guy. Just saying.
They are really not that different. Some men do see them as a social construct. I usually find them to have the most problems. Sex is not complicated. It's completely straightforward. Some of the consequences are complicated, but its a behavior with consequences like anything else. You don't ever have to deal with women, you have to deal with one woman or some women but never all women. So you don't ever have to worry what the social construct thinks because they don't hold meetings and put you on "no sex list". Doesn't happen.
And these friends that girls, you never plan on being anything more with them, correct?
hahaha i was just at the cosmoplotian hotel the other night and said this. i was at the bar and this girl kept elbowing me in to get a drink and i said hey! cant you just wait your turn to get a drink. she was all if you were a gentlemen you would let me in! why cause you have ta-tas?!? i dont think so babe! Chivarly is dead! look if a woman acts like one i will throw my coat over a puddle for her( and that coat cost me at least $20) if you act like a B*&^%! i will treat you like one! respect goes both way, don't think its just to be expected!
...here comes this discussion, lol.And these friends that girls, you never plan on being anything more with them, correct?
Straight up pimpin'hahaha i was just at the cosmoplotian hotel the other night and said this. i was at the bar and this girl kept elbowing me in to get a drink and i said hey! cant you just wait your turn to get a drink. she was all if you were a gentlemen you would let me in! why cause you have ta-tas?!? i dont think so babe! Chivarly is dead! look if a woman acts like one i will throw my coat over a puddle for her( and that coat cost me at least $20) if you act like a B*&^%! i will treat you like one! respect goes both way, don't think its just to be expected!
¿Que? You can't pick up on subtle behaviors? I'd say that's a personal problem. Nothing to do with being a guy. 90% of talking to women is picking up on subtitles.In an attempt to bring this thread back to its original topic, you hear many times how women do subtle things or pick up on subtle behaviors of men that they do subconsciously that some to most men do not even notice or pick up on. So that right there alone is what is meant by women being harder to understand, because they are essentially doing things that most guys are not on the same page with.
So like Darth mentioned, its hard to understand how to act with certain women because they are a bit hypocritical at times where they want to be treated one way, but also want to have certain things done for them. And I think this may have something to do with gender roles. The male role has pretty much been static for centuries, whereas women have changed thing in the past few decades. Guys basically act the same, but since women have been evolving with their behavior, it can be hard to keep up with that.
¿Que? You can't pick up on subtle behaviors? I'd say that's a personal problem. Nothing to do with being a guy. 90% of talking to women is picking up on subtitles.
I also don't think women have been 'evolving their behaviors' anymore than men. I don't think my great-grandfather was calling Rex Ryan a b**** through a flat screen TV.
I know about the friend zone thing, I just wanted to verify it. It just always happens to slowly lead up to that issue with us.
Us guys on some level want to understand women but surely you have to admit that most women have different ways of doing things than men. How a guy acts with another guy is obviously different than how a guy acts with a woman, and how a woman acts with another, and even more different if it includes sex and intimacy. Then you're trying to connect on several different levels, and for some people its harder to truly connect, which is why through overcomplicaton, some men see women as a social construct.
When you have all of that going on, it is much easier said than done about women no harder to understand than a typical guy for a typical guy. I'd say the same for women but I seeing more and more women themselves talking about how they can't stand hanging around women. You don't hear the same from a guy. Just saying.
Now this brings up an interesting point. Is chivalry considered dead because women don't seem to tolerate or accept it as much, or because men are not acting like gentlemen?Chivalry isn't dead Darth. Women have shown a dislike for it in some ways, choosing the "Bad Boy" perhaps ... but there are still gentlemen out there ...![]()
The notion of chivalry is that men have a duty to women moreso than they do their male counterparts. So it's a thinly veiled insult. You can't do for yourselves so basic forms of kindness are required to protect your delicate sensibilities.Now this brings up an interesting point. Is chivalry considered dead because women don't seem to tolerate or accept it as much, or because men are not acting like gentlemen?
Or do the two go hand in hand, meaning women want to be looked at as independent so men change how they act?
The notion of chivalry is that men have a duty to women moreso than they do their male counterparts. So it's a thinly veiled insult. You can't do for yourselves so basic forms of kindness are required to protect your delicate sensibilities.