Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Dat J. August Richards Thread

[Gr0oT]

This is Marvel Studios, so why does it anger you so that they are changing his storyline and background? They have done this for a lot of characters, this is no different. You should be used to Marvel Studios changing character origins by now.

I'll not beat this dead horse much more since I'm pretty clear in the news/speculation thread.

But for the record I just want a character I can recognize as Deathlok and don't want to experience someone they could have just as easily made a new creation.

Sort of like that awful Punisher: War Zone movie where they used the names of characters like Ink and Pittsy but none of the characterization that made them good in the comics.

Call him Peterson instead of Collins, have him be the father of just a little boy instead of a married man with a boy and a newborn baby girl... So what if he isn't a professor or a computer whiz... In the end he is still a good man, a father, is being used, is a tool that fights against the will of his makers... But you need to carry over a good 60% of the original look to go along with the essence of his core storyline.

So far from what I've heard the only thing unique to Peterson is his metal leg. The backscatter x-ray eye implant has been shown used in 3 others, Akela, the soldier that was captured by SHIELD after the Po breakout, and the English national who was thought to be Akela's higher up but ended up getting kill-switched when Coulson got too snoopy with him.

I just find it bullshard that the show execs are trying to sell Deathlok on the platform of this tired old kill switch eyeball and a metal leg.

I hope they prove me wrong, I'd love to be wrong...

He is pretty badly burnt, I'm sure he would get something to cover it up for protection

Cocoa butter and welfare extremis should do the trick.

 

[Human Torch]

I don't know why they didn't just name him Collins like the comic if it was their intention to make him Deathlok all along.I guess to try to use the element of surprise?Just think.It might've spared us 4 months of "I wants comic characters in the show!" posts.

 

[cherokeesam]

I don't know why they didn't just name him Collins like the comic if it was their intention to make him Deathlok all along.I guess to try to use the element of surprise?Just think.It might've spared us 4 months of "I wants comic characters in the show!" posts.

Collins probably would have been a dead giveaway in the Age of Wikipedia. But they still could've created a mystery by not giving his last name; just Michael, or MC or something. If it's that big of a deal, they could still add an angle that "Peterson" is an alias or something. I dunno, I'm not bothered by it either way....Deathlok is Deathlok, whether his name is Luther Manning, Michael Collins, or Michael Peterson.

 

[Gr0oT]

Implying the average viewer would have been bothered to look up Collins.

 

[Xeno]

Implying the average viewer would have been bothered to look up Collins.

Comic book fans would have either recognized the name or Googled it and found out the Collins is Deathlok, just as we looked up "Mike Peterson" and found a minor character with that name. Bloggers for geeks sites would have been all over it in minutes followed by mainstream journalists picking up the story, after which Collins' identity would have been available to the general audience.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Implying the average viewer would have been bothered to look up Collins.

People pegged Mike Peterson as a Marvel character (Slapsticks pal) within moments of that interview being posted. Word gets around quickly.

 

[Ant-manic]

maybe Mike Peterson in the comics is going to become Deathlok.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

I'll not beat this dead horse much more since I'm pretty clear in the news/speculation thread.

But for the record I just want a character I can recognize as Deathlok and don't want to experience someone they could have just as easily made a new creation.

Sort of like that awful Punisher: War Zone movie where they used the names of characters like Ink and Pittsy but none of the characterization that made them good in the comics.

Call him Peterson instead of Collins, have him be the father of just a little boy instead of a married man with a boy and a newborn baby girl... So what if he isn't a professor or a computer whiz... In the end he is still a good man, a father, is being used, is a tool that fights against the will of his makers... But you need to carry over a good 60% of the original look to go along with the essence of his core storyline.

So far from what I've heard the only thing unique to Peterson is his metal leg. The backscatter x-ray eye implant has been shown used in 3 others, Akela, the soldier that was captured by SHIELD after the Po breakout, and the English national who was thought to be Akela's higher up but ended up getting kill-switched when Coulson got too snoopy with him.

I just find it bullshard that the show execs are trying to sell Deathlok on the platform of this tired old kill switch eyeball and a metal leg.

I hope they prove me wrong, I'd love to be wrong...



Cocoa butter and welfare extremis should do the trick.

I don't think they would bother setting up Deathlok from day 1 and announcing his arrival if they weren't going to do as much as they could with a character as cool as he is. We haven't gotten many (if any) "costumed" characters in AoS yet, but at the same time we haven't seen any of the comic characters post-origin story yet, so there is no precedent. Regardless, it wouldn't be hard to make Deathlok look like Deathlok in the MCU. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[TheVileOne]

Mike Peterson in this series is clearly based on Mike Collins/Deathlok.

 

[Gr0oT]

Mike Peterson in this series is clearly based on Mike Collins/Deathlok.

How so?

Michael Collins;
-Professor, degree in computer science and prosthetics
-Happily married, has a preteen son and baby daughter
-Works for Roxxon Oil cybernetic division Cybertek
-Programing artificial limbs for Cybertek, thinks it is for helping people, actually for the Deathlok project
-Makes a complaint to his boss Harlan Ryker, whom he didn't know was in on it, and gets killed for his effort
-Brain extracted from his body by Ryker and added to the cyborg body

Michael Peterson;
-Works in hospital
-Loses job due to injury at work
-Loses wife due to losing job
-Lives alone with his son
-Conned into Centipede program
-Gets super powers from Extremis rip-off
-Causes him to have mental breakdown of sorts
-Shenanigans ensue, he ends up with SHIELD
-Son gets kidnapped
-Retrieves son, runs back for Coulson, blows up
-Manages to limit damage to a missing lower leg and serious burns
-Deathlok project in this instance consist of having parts added to his body


They are both black but that isn't really the defining characteristic of Deathlok.

From here on out I can see the story getting a bit closer as Collins was being externally controlled and was made to do things against his will and Peterson will doubtless be subject to that, but so far the characters are as different from each other as they could be.

 

[TheVileOne]

Family man who doesn't realize the work he's doing is for nefarious cybernetic work. Injured by antagonists. Turned into a cyborg. Very similar actually.

 

[Shakel92]

I'd love to see a made-for-tv Deathlok movie. There was a script floating around not so long ago for a major motion picture. If they could build up the character enough, it could be done, and be successful.

 

[The Sarge]

Well I hope he gets his metal face, arm, and the backpack. I would like accurate of course, but those are probs the most important bits.

 

[Shakel92]

He looked awesome last night.

 

[Randy Savage]

Guys, the transformation into Deathlok is a process. They're building it up. They have to ease the general public into it, and also make sure they still identify with him as a character first & bad-ass cyborg with an uzi 2nd.

That said, J August Richards rules. I'm not familiar with him prior to this. My wife is the big Whedon nerd so she clued me in on his Angel or Buffy role, whatever that was. That said, the dude is about to go FULL DEATHLOK.

 

[Randy Savage]

Family man who doesn't realize the work he's doing is for nefarious cybernetic work. Injured by antagonists. Turned into a cyborg. Very similar actually.

Yeah the little bits aren't important, the overall character points are being met though. Just as you said. Family man forced to kill, becomes a cyborg, wears a red leotard. It's all happening.

 

[Endeavor]

Randy when you get an avvy it better include a red leotard

 

[Dr. Evil]

Randy when you get an avvy it better include a red leotard

And start yelling "ooooh yeah!"

 

[Randy Savage]

DIG IT! When do I get an avy btw? After a certain post count?

 

[Endeavor]

Yeah check your user control panel I think there's a note there that tells you. You start off with a smaller sized one than the one I have now.

 

[Shakel92]

DIG IT! When do I get an avy btw? After a certain post count?

I was also looking for one.

 

[seahammer]

DIG IT! When do I get an avy btw? After a certain post count?

I was also looking for one.

At 300 posts, you'll get an avvy the same size as mine.

 

[Shakel92]

I will post constantly.

 

[Randy Savage]

I will post constantly.

LOL! I cosign this post.

It'll be easy to hit 300 posts when discussing comic books and whatnot.

 

[Shakel92]

Non-stop until we hit 300!