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[X-Maniac]

Oh I don't agree in the slightest. If this movie fails it could be any combination of these reasons -

1. If it's bad. The critics hate it. Word of mouth is venomous. Etc.

2. If one of the three superhero movies in this 7 week stretch was going to fail and X-Men drew the short straw

3. That, after seven entries in the franchise, people are sick of the X-Men.

4. That the GA has moved on from the X-Men, especially since it's been so long since the X-Men "they" know

5. The Marketing, that so many outlets have been (rightfully) critical of really hampers excitement.

or, and this is what I had in mind when I said they may have to consider a reboot if it fails -

6. People associate this version of the X-Men with last decade. The leather, the dark silver and blue tones, even the cast. The last 6 years have been dominated by Marvel's, for good or bad, house style of embracing the costumes and settings in a house style kind of way.

Also, this is a bit worrisome

Chart Showing Google Search Trends for Various Marvel Properties from 2004-2014

Spoilers...it's bad news bears for X-Men

Your username leads me to be unsurprised by this posting. Let's not toll the bells of doom just yet.

Ignoring the fanboy 'my franchise is bigger than yours' mentality and all the warring groups that exist online (a waste of time, just watch the movies or don't), there are several things Fox needs to do in my view.

It might help to market at least some things in ways other than by using 'X-Men:' in the title. Marvel Studios doesn't keep using 'Marvel's' in the title, Bond movies don't keep saying 'James Bond:' in the title. It helps keeps projects feeling fresh and different. X-Force and The Wolverine are steps in the right direction (even though I thought The Wolverine a bit of a dull title), Deadpool should be called just that.

Also, the entire year should be an option for releasing, especially when you have gained a reputation for doing solid movies (Fox might not be at that stage yet, it's trying hard to get there though). Captain America just proved that March/April can work well, Lord of the Rings proved that Christmas releases can do well. People will come if the quality is there. Not that I think CA:TWS as stupendously amazing as many others, but I don't argue with the critical consensus or opening weekend.

And, yes, we need consistently good X-Men movies with an overarching vision. I've been saying this since the year dot.

I do agree that more colour and 'real-world' setting would be good too. As well as swerving closer to the source material rather than going away from it.

There will always be X-Men movies in some form, it's too rich a property. Let's see if Fox can rise to the challenge. DoFP is a massive step in the right direction and, even if people are wary about the main content of DoFP itself, it's rumoured resetting of the timeline to fix things and allow a proper 'first class' should please many people.

 

[xrs13]

Your username leads me to be unsurprised by this posting. Let's not toll the bells of doom just yet.

Ignoring the fanboy 'my franchise is bigger than yours' mentality and all the warring groups that exist online (a waste of time, just watch the movies or don't), there are several things Fox needs to do in my view.

It might help to market at least some things in ways other than by using 'X-Men:' in the title. Marvel Studios doesn't keep using 'Marvel's' in the title, Bond movies don't keep saying 'James Bond:' in the title. It helps keeps projects feeling fresh and different. X-Force and The Wolverine are steps in the right direction (even though I thought The Wolverine a bit of a dull title), Deadpool should be called just that.

Also, the entire year should be an option for releasing, especially when you have gained a reputation for doing solid movies (Fox might not be at that stage yet, it's trying hard to get there though). Captain America just proved that March/April can work well, Lord of the Rings proved that Christmas releases can do well. People will come if the quality is there. Not that I think CA:TWS as stupendously amazing as many others, but I don't argue with the critical consensus or opening weekend.

And, yes, we need consistently good X-Men movies with an overarching vision. I've been saying this since the year dot.

I do agree that more colour and 'real-world' setting would be good too. As well as swerving closer to the source material rather than going away from it.

There will always be X-Men movies in some form, it's too rich a property. Let's see if Fox can rise to the challenge. DoFP is a massive step in the right direction and, even if people are wary about the main content of DoFP itself, it's rumoured resetting of the timeline to fix things and allow a proper 'first class' should please many people.

Im just a little confused by this bit. X-Men is the team name, like cap is his name and the avengers is the avengers, Marvel doesnt include Marvel in those films because it would be the same as marvel including marvel in the x-men films. the avengers and all other marvel films have had their names in each one. 5 captain americas down the line they will still call it Captain america...

I may have misunderstood your point but just thought I would check haha

 

[X-Maniac]

Im just a little confused by this bit. X-Men is the team name, like cap is his name and the avengers is the avengers, Marvel doesnt include Marvel in those films because it would be the same as marvel including marvel in the x-men films. the avengers and all other marvel films have had their names in each one. 5 captain americas down the line they will still call it Captain america...

I may have misunderstood your point but just thought I would check haha

You did misunderstand, lol...

I meant that they don't need to add X-Men on to any spin-offs like Deadpool. If they do expand the franchise it doesn't need to be so obviously called X-Men:

We don't get Marvel's Iron Man, Marvel's Thor: The Dark World, Marvel's Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Marvel's Ant-Man, etc. Just see how reading that list induces fatigue!

Of course the team movies should still be called X-Men:

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Agreed. No need for titles such as X-Men Origins Deadpool or X-Men: X-Force

 

[xrs13]

You did misunderstand, lol...

I meant that they don't need to add X-Men on to any spin-offs like Deadpool. If they do expand the franchise it doesn't need to be so obviously called X-Men:

We don't get Marvel's Iron Man, Marvel's Thor: The Dark World, Marvel's Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Marvel's Ant-Man, etc. Just see how reading that list induces fatigue!

Of course the team movies should still be called X-Men:

Ahh haha my bad, that makes sense. Yeah I don't want to see X-Men: X-Force :P

 

[HIA]

what about X-Men: X-Force's first Class?

 

[Malik]

What?

 

[Hcmarvel]

Your username leads me to be unsurprised by this posting. Let's not toll the bells of doom just yet.

Oy. You do know what company publishes X-Men comics right? ....You do know that the X-Men started as a comic book right? HCMarvel has been my standard Name since I made an AOL account back in the mid 90s in middle school. It's because HCM are my initials, and I'm a MARVEL fanboy. In fact, the comic that made me a fan of comics in general, was Uncanny X-Men 303. Where Illyana died and Jean consoled Jubilee. It is not some fanboyish ode to Marvel Studios.

Ignoring the fanboy 'my franchise is bigger than yours' mentality and all the warring groups that exist online (a waste of time, just watch the movies or don't), there are several things Fox needs to do in my view.

Again, I was not coming in with any agenda of "DUDE! X-MEN SUX. ITS SO OLD! IT'S LIKE OLDER THAN AMERICAN IDOL LOLZ!". Seeing X-Men opening night back in 2000 is a night I'll always remember. It validated all the time I'd spent reading comics up until that point. I was merely answering the question that was asked of why the movie may not do well. I'm a huge fan but I'd like to think I'm realistic.

It might help to market at least some things in ways other than by using 'X-Men:' in the title. Marvel Studios doesn't keep using 'Marvel's' in the title, Bond movies don't keep saying 'James Bond:' in the title. It helps keeps projects feeling fresh and different. X-Force and The Wolverine are steps in the right direction (even though I thought The Wolverine a bit of a dull title), Deadpool should be called just that.

K - Don't get this. So you would have called X-Men First Class just First Class? The only movie that had the long awkward title was the first solo Wolverine movie and nothing could've saved that turd

Also, the entire year should be an option for releasing, especially when you have gained a reputation for doing solid movies (Fox might not be at that stage yet, it's trying hard to get there though). Captain America just proved that March/April can work well, Lord of the Rings proved that Christmas releases can do well. People will come if the quality is there. Not that I think CA:TWS as stupendously amazing as many others, but I don't argue with the critical consensus or opening weekend.

Sure, I think more and more, especially with what The Winter Soldier just did, all the studios will be exploring this. Don't see how this will especially help Fox if DOFP flops.

And, yes, we need consistently good X-Men movies with an overarching vision. I've been saying this since the year dot.

K, still not addressing how Fox could right the ship should DOFP not work except for saying "The movies should be good."

I do agree that more colour and 'real-world' setting would be good too. As well as swerving closer to the source material rather than going away from it.

This we agree on. I'd actually argue the first two X-Men movies feel very much set in the "real-world". Though some of that may have been so they could camouflage a superhero movie as a sci-fi film.

There will always be X-Men movies in some form, it's too rich a property. Let's see if Fox can rise to the challenge. DoFP is a massive step in the right direction

You do not know that at all. Not in the slightest. You hope it is.



Of course you are right that FOX will always pump out X-Men movies, partially because they have to. But if DOFP flops, which would surprise me no matter how it's received, and X-Men Apocolypse also doesn't connect, I do think Fox would have to consider altering the asthetic of this universe in a significant way. The uniforms the X-Men wear in these movies are carry overs from the first film, which were heavily influenced by The Matrix. That feels eons ago. It's just one thing but its representational.

 

[Rike]

You do not know that at all. Not in the slightest. You hope it is.

It's likely to be.

 

[mmaeric]

Danny Cox from examiner is predicting 450million worldwide and 50million opening tops

I think he's way off

The wolverine on a 120million budget and with no major characters except Logan made over 415 million and a 54 million opening

They are advertising this on Thor 2 and captain America I think which should def help as well

I'm gonna say it makes about 200 million domestic after a 80 million opening, and I'm guessing it pulls about 400 million overseas for a 600million haul

That's my conservative estimate as I could see it doing more

The last stand adjusted for inflation would have made about 575 million, add 3d to that and is say 700 million

So if this does well it should pull that off

 

[BMM]

Enjoy being wrong about that opening weekend, Danny.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Danny Cox from examiner is predicting 450million worldwide and 50million opening tops

I think he's way off

The wolverine on a 120million budget and with no major characters except Logan made over 415 million and a 54 million opening

They are advertising this on Thor 2 and captain America I think which should def help as well

I'm gonna say it makes about 200 million domestic after a 80 million opening, and I'm guessing it pulls about 400 million overseas for a 600million haul

That's my conservative estimate as I could see it doing more

The last stand adjusted for inflation would have made about 575 million, add 3d to that and is say 700 million

So if this does well it should pull that off

Odds are he Is one of the fox haters and DIsney/MS can do no wrong. lower weekend than the wolverine

 

[Rike]

"$50 million opening"



Oh wait... It wasn't a joke.

 

[EnDz0n3]

$50 Million opening weekend? There's hating and then there's HATING.

It might help to market at least some things in ways other than by using 'X-Men:' in the title. Marvel Studios doesn't keep using 'Marvel's' in the title, Bond movies don't keep saying 'James Bond:' in the title. It helps keeps projects feeling fresh and different. X-Force and The Wolverine are steps in the right direction (even though I thought The Wolverine a bit of a dull title), Deadpool should be called just that.

I agree with this. Isn't it interesting that some of DC's biggest movies are The Dark Knight (and Rises) and Man of Steel.

I just paid DC a compliment. Hell has frozen over.

 

[JP]

I realize things could change, but unless the film gets completely panned, I can't see BoxOffice.com's $103m opening weekend prediction lowering.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Even if it gets completely panned an X-men movie, released on a (THE?) Holiday weekend in the US will not only do $50 Mil.

 

[marvelrobbins]

$50 Million opening weekend? There's hating and then there's HATING.



I agree with this. Isn't it interesting that some of DC's biggest movies are The Dark Knight (and Rises) and Man of Steel.

I just paid DC a compliment. Hell has frozen over.

Except for origins there really hasn't been a X-Men related film where the name X-Men wasn't approate. Maybe they should have called Last stand X3.

In promation they called X2 X2:X-Men united but that subtitle wasn't used In actual film.

The biggest question for whatever the superman/batman film Is what will it be called Batman VS Superman.Something with both batman and superman or man of steel with subtitle although last one kind of defeats purpose of adding batman to film.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

I was thinking about that.

I think they should call it Man of Steel: Worlds Finest, or just "Worlds Finest". Batman and Superman will be all over the posters and promotion as well as the iconic logos so there won't be a soul who doesn't know it's a Batman & Superman movie.

 

[SuperT]

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they just kept it Batman vs. Superman. DC LOVES Batman and any chance they have to push the fact that he's in this movie - they will definitely take it.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Ah but they didn't have his name in the title of his last two movies. and they didn't have superman in the title of his last movie either.

 

[JP]

Even if it gets completely panned an X-men movie, released on a (THE?) Holiday weekend in the US will not only do $50 Mil.

Oh yeah, and it has a massive holiday weekend. Lol.

 

[SuperT]

Ah but they didn't have his name in the title of his last two movies. and they didn't have superman in the title of his last movie either.

No, but Man of Steel and The Dark Knight are both pretty well known nicknames for both characters.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Oh yeah, and it has a massive holiday weekend. Lol.

I can see Boxoffice.com raising their prediction in the weeks leading up to the release.

Let's see by how much!

 

[psylockolussus]

Danny Cox from examiner is predicting 450million worldwide and 50million opening tops

Ridiculous.

The Wolverine opened with 53 million. DOFP is not getting 50.

 

[Tymminator]

I just can't see it making that low an amount on that weekend, even if it was poorly received.