Days of Future Past Days of Future Past SPOILERS! (You have been warned!) - Part 3

[Tehmeh]

Anyone else find it completely unbelievable that Mystique never killed anyone before Trask? The way she acts, murder doesn't seem foreign to her and I don't think she'd have been against it after pairing up with Magneto. In the 10 years since that, she never killed once? I call bull


Also how was young Charles able to interact with his Future self? That part made no sense to me

Didn't find that unbelievable. Perfect mix of FC's "innocent" Raven and X1's ******** Raven.

Xaviers stunt made sense to me. Kitty upholds the "gateway" the whole time, and through Wolverine's mind, Charles can go through the gateway.

 

[Loki882]

I thought that he just astral projecting through Logan's mind.

 

[Shadow Scars]

I wish Havok would have returned to the mansion. Needed more x-men in the past. As awesome as the ending in the 70s was, and understanding why Logan doesn't have metal claws, I still can't help but think how awesome it would have been to see Wolverine (with the metal), Beast, and Havok actually have an extended sequence of wrecking some 1970's Sentinels.

 

[dodokorman]

don't you guys think it's direct visual reference to the comics when magneto has metal sticks in and out of logan's body (fatal attractions : magneto rips out his adamantium skeleton) and then apocalypse puts it back in making him his horseman..So it's pretty obvious where x-men:apocalpyse goes right ?

 

[Hamill-Joker]

Did anyone else find the ending with Logan waking up in the future very emotional?

Him seeing Jean almost put me to tears.

 

[Tehmeh]

don't you guys think it's direct visual reference to the comics when magneto has metal sticks in and out of logan's body (fatal attractions : magneto rips out his adamantium skeleton) and then apocalypse puts it back in making him his horseman..So it's pretty obvious where x-men:apocalpyse goes right ?

Don't know that comic, but from your description I'd say yes.

I loved that part. It was so grim, the guy was impaled from all over the place.

Also, imagine being almost immortal, helpless and drowning all over again.

 

[Tehmeh]

Did anyone else find the ending with Logan waking up in the future very emotional?

Him seeing Jean almost put me to tears.

Yes. Jean, Scott and Beast. Pure fanservice AND a middle-finger to X3. Very emotional, rewarding and powerful. That little moment with Charles was great too.

 

[Havok83]

Don't know that comic, but from your description I'd say yes.

I loved that part. It was so grim, the guy was impaled from all over the place.

Also, imagine being almost immortal, helpless and drowning all over again.

 

[Drab87]

I was wondering how come Kitty, Iceman and Colossus were with the other band of mutants at the start and not with Xavier, Storm, Magneto and Wolverine in the X-Jet?

Because when they land the jet and come out, Kitty says "professor..." and Bishop, Blink, Sunspot and Warpath didn't seem to know who they where?

I got the same vibe... Like Bishop, Blink, Warpath, and Sunspot don't seem to know who they are. But Bishop seems to know who Storm is. And Iceman goes up and hugs Storm like he really missed her and had not seen her in a while.

 

[The Ironstar]

Well, we learned that she got stabbed by a Sentinel.

Y! The heroic way she was killed in the comic was so much better. The people who were killed in the future I didn't feel any emotion. I don't know why.

 

[Enriquespy]

Best retcon move ever!!!!
Almos quirurgically removing X3.

 

[Blu3H3ll]

Firstly just seen the film and thought it was incredible! Does the end mean that

Spoiler

mystique will be in charge of the weapon X Programme?

but secondly I didn't catch how Professor X is still alive.. Was it mentioned?

 

[Blackout]

Actually I think Blink managed to take out one Sentinel. At the scene before she died she opened a portal in front of her against a sentinel who was firing a beam at her. This beam reappears further away and blasts a Sentinel which is on the roof. This can be seen in Blink's power piece too.

 

[Legion]

I loved how Sentinels were a REAL threat. In the opening scene they just BUTCHERED everyone, and of course did the same later on too. It became instantly clear that they can not win by fighting them. I loved that. Creepy bastards, those sentinels.

Totally agreed. It kind of felt like a horror movie when that one sentinel was targeting Blink in the beginning.

 

[Havok83]

Was it ever explained what caused the sentinels to be activated? The government had them for decades but we only see them in use and its the much more advanced models in the future. Was there a specific event that caused the government to approve putting them to use?

but secondly I didn't catch how Professor X is still alive.. Was it mentioned?

Nope. People have their theories but the film never actually addresses it

 

[Legion]

Nope. People have their theories but the film never actually addresses it

It's no theory. The end credits scene after X3 shows that he's still alive. The theories come in to determine why he still looks like Patrick Stewart and is in a wheel chair.

 

[Havok83]

It's no theory. The end credits scene after X3 shows that he's still alive. The theories come in to determine why he still looks like Patrick Stewart and is in a wheel chair.

And again the movie never mentions or addresses any of this

 

[Nerial]

And again the movie never mentions or addresses any of this

To which I am eternally grateful. As little reference to X3 as possible.

 

[Dr. Remy Lebeau]

To which I am eternally grateful. As little reference to X3 as possible.

Amen and Hallelujah!

 

[spideyboy_1111]

so the movie never addresses any of the plot holes between X3 and the future?

Xavier's return, the cure not sticking, etc...?

 

[X-Maniac]

Was it ever explained what caused the sentinels to be activated? The government had them for decades but we only see them in use and its the much more advanced models in the future. Was there a specific event that caused the government to approve putting them to use?

No, they never mentioned it in the movie, but it goes into everything that happened since X3 in the 25 Moments website. That shows how things went bad after X3.

For the sake of the 2-hour movie they didn't go into all that, but Trask does say that the work he does with Mystique will enable improved Sentinels 'decades later', suggesting the research is a long process.

Nope. People have their theories but the film never actually addresses it

The film never addressed it, but Xavier had by that point been back for 8 years, so going into it then would have been strange. The end of X3 has his voice coming from the braindead patient he refers to earlier in the movie, the DVD commentary says that was his twin brother, and at the end of The Wolverine he just tells Logan that he too has gifts. Singer suggested in an interview that somehow Xavier constructed a new body, rather like Cassandra Nova, but that's even more out there than a braindead twin.

 

[Sharkboy]

And again the movie never mentions or addresses any of this

When will people realise that films don't have to hold your hand and explain everything to you?

 

[Specter313]

I got the same vibe... Like Bishop, Blink, Warpath, and Sunspot don't seem to know who they are. But Bishop seems to know who Storm is. And Iceman goes up and hugs Storm like he really missed her and had not seen her in a while.

Interviews from before the movie have said that essentially, the X-Men are no more and the non-captured mutants are scattered all over the world. It should be obvious that Iceman, Kitty, and Colossus became separated from the others at some point until they were able to contact them at the beginning of the film.

 

[Havok83]

No, they never mentioned it in the movie, but it goes into everything that happened since X3 in the 25 Moments website. That shows how things went bad after X3.

For the sake of the 2-hour movie they didn't go into all that, but Trask does say that the work he does with Mystique will enable improved Sentinels 'decades later', suggesting the research is a long process.

I get that part for the future sentinels but they already had sentinels in the 70s. Not as advanced as the ones modified from Mystique, but they still were built and functional

The film never addressed it, but Xavier had by that point been back for 8 years, so going into it then would have been strange. The end of X3 has his voice coming from the braindead patient he refers to earlier in the movie, the DVD commentary says that was his twin brother, and at the end of The Wolverine he just tells Logan that he too has gifts. Singer suggested in an interview that somehow Xavier constructed a new body, rather like Cassandra Nova, but that's even more out there than a braindead twin.

Im hoping there is some deleted scene that at least touches up on this

When will people realise that films don't have to hold your hand and explain everything to you?

not everything needs to be but major plotpoints should

 

[X-Maniac]

I get that part for the future sentinels but they already had sentinels in the 70s. Not as advanced as the ones modified from Mystique, but they still were built and functional

Yes, but the Sentinel program obviously went into the background in the original timeline. We never see them during the original trilogy and in that timeline Magneto wouldn't have been broken out of prison that early, so the threat wouldn't have existed.

The Trask Industries website suggests no more Sentinels were made after 1996. It doesn't say why. Maybe Trask died and the program was mothballed, but it's also the year of the real-world Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, so maybe Sentinels were (like nuclear weapons in our reality) deemed too destructive and then sidelined.

Later on, after X3 and subsequent tensions and conflicts, they were reactivated.

My own 'fan theory' on this is that the Bill Duke Trask we see in X3 was a distant relative of Dinkage's Trask, and he reopened the company (which he inherited) and got the new super-Sentinels manufactured.

Im hoping there is some deleted scene that at least touches up on this

I doubt it, they just don't want to go into the braindead twin thing probably, it just sounds hokey, so they are trying to gloss over it and move on.