DC Could Learn Lessons From Marvel's Movie Strategy

[Lauryn2000]

If the best DC/WB can do is greenlight a "Shazam!" movie,out of all the characters (besides Flash,etc).....I dunno....I'm lost....

 

[Evil Twin]

Captain Marvel was the Harry Potter of the 1940s and the best selling comic book on the stands. Much of what made that happen, his appeal to kids and good humor, are things that still can be recaptured. The right Captain Marvel movie likely has broader appeal than most superheroes.

There's this myth out there that the most popular superheroes in comics are automatically the most readily transferable to the movies. That's not necessarily true. Iron Man is a mid-tier seller and pretty much has been for decades. Blade's not even C-list in comics. The Punisher has been a mid-tier seller for a long time, but the armed vigilante isn't that interesting to movie audiences who have seen variations on that theme for over 30 years, while they hadn't seen a kung fu vampire hunter before.

 

[luca_frontino]

DC can't learn anything because they are not an indepedent studio.
Someone should buy DC from Time Warner and give them they're studios.
That's all, folks!

 

[REDophile]

When more DC films do come out, they should learn lessons not specifically from Marvel, but from ANY superhero movie.

To make a good superhero movie, there has to be this sort of stating-the-obvious type of humor in the script, without going overboard (like Batman and Robin). Examples:
Bruce Banner meeting with Doc Samson talking about his problem..... "You see a shrink?" "Its a little more complicated than that."

In the latest Dark Knight trailer, when the tumbler crashes into the meeting with Harvey Dent and Commissioner Gordon, and Gordon says, "yeah, he does that."

Furthermore, the secret identity should make light of his alter ego in a non-flamboyant manner. Example:
Bruce Wayne in Batman Begins, "A guy that dresses like a bat clearly has issues."

Flash and GL are characters that can encourage that type of dialogue. Throw out some dry jokes about superspeed or a ring.

 

[Sawyer]

By the time TDK hits theaters in July, we better hear more from WB about Flash, Shazam or GL.

Not likely. At all.

 

[SKSpawn]

Yeah, DC really should learn from Marvel in two ways:

More comic book properties but with high standards, that way we avoid the backlash generated by the "lesser" Marvel franchises (Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider) even though I, personally, enjoyed them for what they were.

DC should have has a Flash, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern film out by now, no question, to be honest. These are their main iconic characters. I think people would be more willing to accept DC/WB taking their time with the film franchises if there was actually going to be a movie made, but after all this time we've heard nothing save a ridiculous idea to leapfrog right into a Justice League movie that isn't even going to be tied into a shard film universe.

Maybe WB should create a whole new division for its DC properties so that they can concentrate on one or two filler movies while the Batman and Vertigo titles are being made, or lease some of them out for a shared profit.

Either way, my hope for a Green Lantern movie is pretty much dead in the water for...oh, let's say....ever.

 

[SKSpawn]

Oops, sorry, my bad.

 

[The Guard]

You know what DC shouldn't learn from Marvel? How to make movies with little depth.

 

[Sawyer]

You know what DC shouldn't learn from Marvel? How to make movies with little depth.

X-Men 1-2 and Spidey 1-2 had plenty of depth...

But, yeah, the rest of Marvels stuff is pretty emotionless.

 

[The Guard]

So far, all we have to go on is the two movies Marvel have made themselves, since we're talking about DC learning lessons from their new movie approach. IRON MAN was fun, but not terribly deep. THE INCREDIBLE HULK was pretty shallow as well.

 

[jmc]

Lessons can only be learned if Marvel produce a string of good superhero films.

 

[Sawyer]

So far, all we have to go on is the two movies Marvel have made themselves, since we're talking about DC learning lessons from their new movie approach. IRON MAN was fun, but not terribly deep. THE INCREDIBLE HULK was pretty shallow as well.

Although, to be fair, Superman Returns was a little too deep. It could've done with a little less romance and a little more punching s***.

 

[Marcus M.]

Although, to be fair, Superman Returns was a little too deep. It could've done with a little less romance and a little more punching s***.

No, the problem was that superman returns was a damn remake of the first 1978 movie. There was nothing deep about it, just like there was nothing deep about Cat Woman, Steel, all the Batman movies before begins and all the superman movies after 2. DC has alot to learn. While we are enjoying our shallow Marvel movies in 2010/2011, like Thor, Captain America, Iron Man 2 and the Avengers. You guys will be sitting around waiting for the 500th Batman and Superman movie.

 

[Chewy]

So far, all we have to go on is the two movies Marvel have made themselves, since we're talking about DC learning lessons from their new movie approach. IRON MAN was fun, but not terribly deep. THE INCREDIBLE HULK was pretty shallow as well.

Batman Begins was no deeper than Iron Man, and if Batman & Robin hadn't been so dreadful more people would see that.

(I'm not gonna argue on The Incredible Hulk, which was pretty shallow by comparison)

 

[SuperKoala]

I'm ready for an aquaman movie

 

[az824]

Batman Begins was no deeper than Iron Man, and if Batman & Robin hadn't been so dreadful more people would see that.

(I'm not gonna argue on The Incredible Hulk, which was pretty shallow by comparison)

well, actually i'd say begins was a lot deeper than iron man, which isnt a bad thing imho. its the one thing iron man lacked

 

[jmc]

Begins definitely had greater depth than Iron Man, I'll agree it's one thing Iron Man could have used a bit more of, still both good films though.

 

[04nbod]

X-Men 1-2 and Spidey 1-2 had plenty of depth...

But, yeah, the rest of Marvels stuff is pretty emotionless.

x-men 3 had depth it just screwed the characters and the team dynamic over

 

[kyuubijavi1]

No, the problem was that superman returns was a damn remake of the first 1978 movie. There was nothing deep about it, just like there was nothing deep about Cat Woman, Steel, all the Batman movies before begins and all the superman movies after 2. DC has alot to learn. While we are enjoying our shallow Marvel movies in 2010/2011, like Thor, Captain America, Iron Man 2 and the Avengers. You guys will be sitting around waiting for the 500th Batman and Superman movie.

Woah now you are talking major **** and are obviously a fan boy come on Superman Returns had way more depth than Iron Man and Hulk the main problem with that movie was it was advertised as something it wasnt SR wasnt a summer flick it sould of come out durring the fall it would of probably made more or roughly the same. Batman Begins is what made Iron Man dont beleave me go read every little interview the director has had about Iron Man. Then comes movies like 300, Sin City & V for Vendeta sure there not put on costumes super heros but there DC's or WB's how ever you wanna go now Watch Men is coming out and that looks like another great movie if it can live up to its Comic then DC is also coming out with Green Lantern a movie if done right can compare to star wars and Flash now thats a movie that can even make spiderman numbers if handled the right way now idk why there waiting a Wonder Woman movie would sell like hot cakes and they should get Jessica Beil for it then when Batman and Superman flicks are over cast Bale and Roth for the Justice League since both actors said there up for it. DC is just taking things slow unlike Marvel that is willing to make there movies even if they lose there directors and main actors.

 

[Marcus M.]

DC is just taking things slow unlike Marvel.

LOL! You got that right. If they go any slower they won't have anything out. Hey when is Cat Woman 2 coming out? LOL!

 

[DACrowe]

Wow, I just want to comment on I didn't realize Marvel was being so *****ey to Favreau and ****ing **** up. I think Iron Man was great and I hear that TIH is fun, but a little dumb. My guess is Marvel is going to get too confident in its properties and put less stock in the artistic merits of them, which is going to eventually backfire and then they'll fall back into line.

DC needs to learn that you can make movies about non "super popular characters" like Marvel has been doing (with only Spidey and X-Men being very well known) and to take the property seriously and treat it with respect. Marvel broke those rules with X3, FF, etc. but it looks like that is changing, for now.

 

[SuperKoala]

I thought superman returns was good

 

[dnno1]

No, the problem was that superman returns was a damn remake of the first 1978 movie. There was nothing deep about it, just like there was nothing deep about Cat Woman, Steel, all the Batman movies before begins and all the superman movies after 2. DC has alot to learn. While we are enjoying our shallow Marvel movies in 2010/2011, like Thor, Captain America, Iron Man 2 and the Avengers. You guys will be sitting around waiting for the 500th Batman and Superman movie.

Urban legend. "Superman: The Movie" and "Superman Returns" were two different movies with a little continuity (something Marvel is trying to establish). About the only things similar with the two were the characters and the sound track. You should keep in mind that Marvel had noting when Warner Brothers was producing the early Superman and Batman films. This is just the case of the worm turning right now and as these things go, there will come a day where the cycle will turn back. I think I have said this before.

 

[Marcus M.]

Urban legend. "Superman: The Movie" and "Superman Returns" were two different movies with a little continuity (something Marvel is trying to establish). About the only things similar with the two were the characters and the sound track.

Oh, it was a remake. It was presented as a sort of quasi sequel to Superman 2 and it was, but in a slick round about way it was also a quasi remake of Superman the movie.
Singer just didn't have the guts to make his own movie, so he made Donner's

1. Kal-El comes to earth from a destroyed Krypton. In the 78 movie, he is found by Jonathan and Martha Kent. In returns he's found only by Martha since his dad is dead.

2. In the 78 movie, he saves Lois from a helicopter accident in returns it's a airplane (The only good action scene)

3 In the 78 movie lex uses Miss Tessmacher as a diversion to get some missles. In returns he uses Kitty Kowalski as an diversion to get some kryptonite.

4 In the 78 movie Superman takes lois on a romantic flight around the city. In returns he takes lois for a romantic flight around the city, except most of it is done with her standing on his feet. And what leads up to the flights in both movies? Superman grants lois an interview. In 78 it was at her upper floor condo and in returns it's on top of the daily planet.

5 Miss Tessmacher is attracted to Superman and feels sorry for him after Lex attacks him with kryptonite and even helps him after he is thrown in a pool of water. Kitty is attracted to Superman and feels sorry for him after lex attacks him with kryptonite. She doesn't do anything to help him, but he is thrown into water, except instead of a pool it's the Atlantic ocean

6 Lex's whole villianess relastate scheme. In the 78 movie he was gonna blow up southern California, for profit and in Returns, he was going to destroy a great deal of the US to make a new continent out of Kryptonian crystal technology, for profit.

Also this movie that you guys call deep is flat out stupid.
The whole reason for leaving Earth for five years is just moronic. Krypton was destroyed and that is that. Because scientist thought they saw it and he just had to go see for himself???
Superman is missing for five years, so that means Clark was missing for five years. Clark shows at the daily planet five years later looking for his old job back and on that exact same day after five years, Superman shows up to save lois and some other people on a plane. Nobody at the daily planet, including Lois can put anything together or even question it?
Lex's whole relastate plot was about the most boneheaded I have ever seen. Who would want to live on that? Like Roger Ebert said. A Billy goat couldn't live there.
Yeah this movie was real deep.

 

[explode7]

Maybe we should see the DC Universe on screen one day like Marvel is attempting to do. Thats the lesson I want DC to learn from Marvel.