DC Relaunching Everything? - Part 10

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Yep... issue 13 onwards.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Hmm, that might be too much for me to get caught up on for a $4 comic.

 

[Compi716]

Does anyone else think that Brutal is

Spoiler

Earth 2 Superman

Yep.

 

[Mystirious]

I'm still enjoying Batman, and while Nightwing's lost some steam since the DotF tie-in, I'm still enjoying it. Batwoman lost a LOT of steam for a while, but it's been fantastic the past 4 or 5 issues. I also like Talon, though it's one of my least favorite books and might be dropped. I'm not sure.

I am digging the current Batwoman arc so much right now. I'm really curious to see what's going to happen with the DEO forcing her into a confrontation with Batman and Bette's getting ready to help get Beth back from the DEO...

I keep hearing good things about Detective. If I can drop another title for it, I should probably give it a shot. What's the best starting point for the title?

A new arc just started in last months issue

 

[hippie_hunter]

Batwoman and Batgirl are the Bat-books I'm enjoying most of all right now and buying each month

And Detective Comics and Batwing have been pretty good as well

Year Zero has also been alright I'm digging the fact the Riddler is getting to play a role in that

Batgirl has become dreadfully boring and it makes me sad to see Gail Simone quickly becoming a one trick pony with her books because she used to be one of my favorite writers.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I am digging the current Batwoman arc so much right now. I'm really curious to see what's going to happen with the DEO forcing her into a confrontation with Batman and Bette's getting ready to help get Beth back from the DEO...

For me it's been hitting them out of the park since the second-to-last issue of the Medusa story line. The only exception was the Killer Croc issue, but that was mostly because I'm digging the current story line and that was an interruption.

A new arc just started in last months issue

Hmmm. Does it play off of anything that's come before or is it a clean slate?

 

[hippie_hunter]

I really liked the Killer Croc issue and the current storyline has been rocking as well. So much better than that awful Medusa storyline that almost made me drop the book.

 

[Mystirious]

For me it's been hitting them out of the park since the second-to-last issue of the Medusa story line. The only exception was the Killer Croc issue, but that was mostly because I'm digging the current story line and that was an interruption.

I've honestly been loving every single issue of the series myself. It's pretty much the one comic book i look forward to most of all each month especially from DC

I dug the Killer Croc issue because while it did interrupt the main story it was nice to see Maggie get to be so bad ass in it

Hmmm. Does it play off of anything that's come before or is it a clean slate?

Nope its an arc you can get without having read the previous one

 

[hippie_hunter]

I liked Croc's shock at seeing Batwoman and Maggie together.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Nope its an arc you can get without having read the previous one

You kinda need to read the first arc in order to get the current arc. And by kinda, I mean you need to.

 

[Mystirious]

I guess for the Kirk Langstrom bits its good to have read the previous arc

I liked Croc's shock at seeing Batwoman and Maggie together.

I dug how he assumed Maggie would be a damsel in distress that Kate would want to get to safety but instead the two of them end up kicking his ass together

Maggie Sawyer ain't afraid of no reptile man

 

[hippie_hunter]

Yeah, that was pretty damn awesome.

 

[Mystirious]

Awesome sauce

It reminded me of Maggie taking the Joker down in Gotham Central

Kate's fiancee is amazing

 

[Saint]

Has anyone read New Guardians from the beginning? Is it... good?

I've been begging for a Kyle Rayner book since forever, but I couldn't bring myself to read it. The whole raindbow corps angle is great world building, but it's been the sole focus of the Green Lantern books like five years straight--I desperately need a break from it and couldn't read another book about it. It's like if you read a hundred issues of Batman made up entirely Ra's Al Ghul stories.

I also wouldn't mind a GL book set primarily on Earth. I've seen a lot of GLs duke it out against the empty backdrop of space over the past few years--and they bounce around so much it's really hard to give a crap about the setting. Even if it's not on Earth, I'd like to see a book plant it's feet somewhere. Just not Oa.

 

[RoughNTumble]

i kept waiting for it to be the next r.e.b.e.l.s but like little caeser's it didn't deliver

just start with whoever is writing it now because it's more interesting

 

[JewishHobbit]

I'm growing to like Maggie, but she's not WOWing me or anything. I foresee a sad, Kate-enraging death in her future.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I will say, the Killer Croc issue was probably the best story I've ever read about Waylon.

 

[antsman41]

yeah... Maggie is so dead now, it's inevitable. No Bat character can ever be happy.

 

[Mystirious]

I'm growing to like Maggie, but she's not WOWing me or anything. I foresee a sad, Kate-enraging death in her future.

I will be furious if DC do something so awful

They barely have any lesbian characters to begin with, I don't want to see one of the few they do have killed off. I don't want to see any of their lgbt characters killed off

Plus her and Kate's relationship is my favourite thing about the series

Fortunately i don't think J.H Williams will do that. All his comments indicate that Maggie is here to stay and that we're even going to get to see her and Kate get married which will make me so happy

 

[hippie_hunter]

They barely have any lesbian characters to begin with, I don't want to see one of the few they do have killed off. I don't want to see any of their lgbt characters killed off

Scandal, Knockout, Renee Montoya, Batwoman, Maggie Sawyer, Lightning Lass, Shrinking Violet, Sarah Rainmaker, Grace Choi, Thunder, Holly Robinson....DC does have a handful to where you can spare at least one to have a meaningful death.

 

[Anubis]

Pfft, "Meaningful Death". In superhero comics?

 

[hippie_hunter]

Pfft, "Meaningful Death". In superhero comics?

Point taken

 

[JewishHobbit]

So on hype recommendations I stopped by the shop today and picked up the past two issues of Detective Comic. True to your words, I enjoyed them a great deal. I may continue with it if budget allows.

 

[Saint]

Point taken

I haven't been reading Batwoman for a while, so maybe my info is out of date, but killing the love interest is so played out at this point I think it would be much more poignant to have Maggie leave Kate over the complications created by her double life. Kate is troubled, that affects a relationship.

That's a pretty common cliche as well (for Bruce Wayne) but still... Comics need to look really closely at how they treat death. It's become out of whack. Matt Fraction once said that death for superheroes isn't about dying, really, it's about escaping death--which I think is interesting, but overplayed. It loses meaning when you do it every week.

Meanwhile, for supporting characters like Maggie (or even Damian, to an extent) it's become a lazy crutch for making sure things stay the same (characters remain unattached, families don't grow, etc.) and to fuel the next round of angst in the stories. You can accomplish these things more subtly than by taking an axe to characters. Death is an important tool in fiction, but, come on, you've got a whole toolbox.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

Matt Fraction once said that death for superheroes isn't about dying, really, it's about escaping death--which I think is interesting, but overplayed. It loses meaning when you do it every week.

I've never heard that, but I like that approach.