DC Relaunching Everything? - Part 5

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Retailers report on how the DC relaunch is doing:

- Despite DC generously overprinting and retailers over ordering, it is still not enough to keep up with demand for most comic book stores.

- Most retailers will be returning very few, if any, of DC's returnable comics.

- Asides for a slight uptick for books based on major characters like Spider-Man, Captain America, and Spawn, new DC readers are not spilling over and checking out comics from other companies. Apparently the DC relaunch is clouding interest in other comics. One retailer has reported that some fans are giving up on Fear Itself and Spider-Island in favor of going totally DC.

- Sales continue to increase into week 3 of the relaunch.

- The titles that have the best fan reaction are: Action Comics, Justice League, Batgirl, Batman & Robin, Green Lantern, Detective Comics, Animal Man, Swamp Thing

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/retailers-day-new-52-gaining-momentun-110916.html

Looks like the shop owners are hoarding issues in the hopes of cleaning up on the back issues later on.

Buyers are buying up the #1's in the hopes of a big payoff later on.

Let the DC speculative bubble begin! Greed is good.
 
Yes and it will somehow take place during the dark ages to make it more atmospheric :up:

Fun on a bun :awesome:;

Batwoman - Loved it. With JH Williams III doing the art for this character again and partially writing it it's a good continuation from Rucka's awesome run. I very much like how the flow of this book was and how they explain what has recently happened with Batwoman prior to this. So it still can be read by a new reader and be enjoyable and they toss in just enough to make it awesome for someone like myself.

Demon Knights - Loved it. Anyone who loves fantasy should pick this up the art is beautiful and what Cornell plans to do with Jason Blood/Etrigan/Madame Xanadu is pretty interesting. Sadly I already knew that Cornell didn't plan to make The Demon rhyme which is fine--see what I did there? :oldrazz:--though he did change the words that transform him which was cool.

Frankenstein: Agent of S.H.A.D.E. - Great read. I'm 100% new to the character and the mythos though from my understanding they are treating this as 100% new or something. I am intrigued and it gives a Hellboyish vibe in the concept of the Creature Commandos team and what they deal with--though I've only watched the Hellboy movies--but it also feels like its own thing. Part of it helps that the team consist of the classic 1940s monster movie creatures and I am very intrigued by what will go down. I particularly love Father Time's current form too. Badassery all around. Art is great too.

Batwoman, Demon Knights and Frankenstein were definitely the three best comic books thus week. Batwoman was definitely my favourite and Demon Knights was just pure Cornell-y goodness

And Frankenstein is crazy amounts of fun :up: so many wonderful bizarre ideas in that series
 
Looks like the shop owners are hoarding issues in the hopes of cleaning up on the back issues later on.

Buyers are buying up the #1's in the hopes of a big payoff later on.

Let the DC speculative bubble begin! Greed is good.
One of the shops in my town imposed a 1-copy limit on all of DC's new 52. I kind of love them for that.
 
what do you mean?

wikipedia said:
The speculator boom


A foil embossed CGC-graded and authenticated copy of Silver Surfer #50. Signed by Stan Lee


From roughly 1985 through 1993, comic book speculation reached its highest peaks. This boom period began with the publication of titles like Batman: The Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen and "summer crossover epics" like Crisis on Infinite Earths and Secret Wars. After Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns made their mark, mainstream attention returned to the comic book industry in 1989 with the success of the movie Batman and again in 1992 with "The Death of Superman" storyline.
Once aware of this niche market, the mainstream press focused on its potential for making money. Features appeared in newspapers, magazines and television shows detailing how rare, high-demand comics such as Action Comics #1 and Incredible Hulk #181 (the first appearances of Superman and Wolverine, respectively) had sold for hundreds or even thousands of dollars.[2]
During this time, comic book publishers began to pander specifically to the collectors' market. Techniques used included variant covers, polybags, and gimmick covers. When a comic was polybagged, the collector had to choose between either reading the comic book or keeping it in pristine condition for potential financial gain, or buying two or more copies to do both. Gimmicks included glow-in-the-dark, hologram-enhanced, die-cut, embossing, foil stamped or foil-embossed covers.[2] Gimmicks were almost entirely cosmetic in nature, and almost never extended to improved content of the comics. However, many speculators would buy multiple copies of these issues, anticipating that demand would allow them to sell them for a substantial profit in the future.
This period also saw a corresponding expansion in price guide publications, most notably Wizard Magazine, which helped fuel the speculator boom with monthly columns such as the "Wizard Top 10" (highlighting the "hottest" back-issues of the month), "Market Watch" (which not only reported back-issue market trends, but also predicted future price trends), and "Comic Watch" (highlighting key "undervalued" back-issues).
The speculators who made a profit or at least broke even on their comic book "investments" did so only by selling to other speculators.[citation needed] In truth, very few of the comics produced in the early '90s have retained their value in the current market; with hundreds of thousands (or, in several prominent cases, over ten million) copies produced of certain issues, the value of these comics has all but disappeared. "Hot" comics like X-Men #1 and Youngblood #1 can today be found selling for under a dollar apiece.[citation needed]
Veteran comic book fans pointed out an important fact about the high value of classic comic books that was largely overlooked by the speculators: original comic books of the Golden Age of Comic Books were genuinely rare. Most of the original comic books had not survived to the present era, having been thrown out in the trash or discarded as worthless children's waste (just like baseball cards typically were at that time) by parents (stories of uncaring parents throwing out their kids' comic book collections are well known to the Baby Boom generation), or recycled along with other periodicals in the paper drives of World War II. As a result, a comic book of interest to fans or collectors from the 1940s through the 1960s, such as an original issue of Superman, Captain America, Challengers of the Unknown, or Vault of Horror, was often extremely difficult to find and thus highly prized by collectors, in a manner similar to coin collectors seeking copies of the 1955 doubled die cent. In many ways, with an enormous supply of high-grade copies, the "hot" comics of the speculator boom were the complete opposite.
[edit] The bust of the speculator market

The comic book speculator market reached a saturation point in the early 1990s and finally collapsed between 1993 through 1997. Two-thirds of all comic book specialty stores closed in this time period,[2] and numerous publishers were driven out of business. Even industry giant Marvel Comics was forced to declare bankruptcy in 1997, although they were able to continue publishing. It is surmised that one of the main factors in Marvel's downfall was the decision to switch to self-distribution (via their purchase of Heroes World Distribution). Up until then, many publishers went through secondary distributors (such as the current and only mass distributor, Diamond Comic Distributors) and Marvel felt it could preserve some of its cash flow if it made the move to becoming one of the few publishers to also distribute directly to the comic market. This backfired terribly when the bottom fell out of the market, as they were stocked with multiple printings of variant and "collectible" issues that were no longer in high demand and they could not cover the costs of their distribution service.
The bust can also be linked back to some of the series that caused the boom, a few years earlier. DC's decision to publish two blockbuster stories depicting the loss of their two major superheroes ("Knightfall" — the breaking of the Batman — and "The Death of Superman"), and their subsequent flooding of the press as to its supposed "finality", is considered by some collectors to have started a slow decay within the non-regular buyer comic community which then led to drops in sales. Many comic retailers believe that numerous comic speculators took the death and crippling of two major characters to signify the end of the Batman and Superman series. As many comic readers and retailers knew full well, very little in comics actually changes with any finality. Many aspects of the status quo returned after the story arcs were over (Superman died, but was resurrected, and Batman was crippled, but eventually recovered).
Many comic speculators who were only in the market to see important comics mature, then sell them for a tidy profit, didn't quite understand how quick the turn around would be on the story recant, and many rushed out to scoop up as many copies of whatever issues were to be deemed significant. Comic shops received not only staggering sales during the week that Superman died,[2] but also had to try and meet the demand. This led to the saturation of the market and the devaluing of what was thought to be the end of an American icon. Some comic book retailers and theorists deem DC's practices in the press forum and their relationship with the non-specialized consumer to be grossly negligent of the status of the market, and that their marketing campaign, whereas most likely not malicious in intent, spelled doom for the speculator market and comic sales in general. Others place the blame for the comic market crash on Marvel (whose product line had bloated to hundreds of separate titles by late 1993, including the poorly received "Marvel UK" and "2099" lines) or creator-owned upstart Image Comics (who fed the speculator feeding frenzy more than any other comics publisher).[3]
Other publishing houses had different problems. Valiant Comics — at one point the third-largest comic book publisher — was sold to the video game giant Acclaim Entertainment for $65 million in June 1994.[4] Acclaim renamed the line Acclaim Comics in 1996. Their primary motivation was to make the properties more suitable for use in video game development. Eventually, Acclaim filed for bankruptcy following the collapse of its video game business. The miniseries Deathmate — a crossover between Image Comics and Valiant Comics — is often considered to have been the final nail in the speculation market's coffin; although heavily hyped and highly anticipated when initially solicited, the books from the Image Comics side shipped so many months late that reader interest disappeared by the time the series finally materialized, leaving some retailers holding literally hundreds of unsellable copies of the various Deathmate crossovers.[5] Other companies, such as Broadway Comics, Comico, Continuity Comics, Defiant Comics, Eclipse Comics, First Comics, and Malibu Comics also ceased publication in the period between 1993 and 1997.[6]


That.
 
:whatever:

:whatever: If that's true, here we go again. It's the 90's re-hashed.

Or maybe that's what he genuinely wants. I highly doubt that anyone is stupid enough to speculate The New 52.

There's nothing wrong with variant covers either. I buy every variant cover to Deadpool and when there's an issue of something that I really like, I'll sometimes buy the variant cover to that as well such as Jim Lee's cover to Action Comics #1.
 
I've never really understood buying multiple copies of the same comic book with a different cover

It's fun to do sometimes. Buying variant covers to multiple books all the time is dumb, but there are some comics and some covers that are just too good to pass up.
 
True. In those cases, I usually choose the one I like more. Key word: "one."
 
John Byrne wrote an FF Annual and an Avengers Annual one year that was the same story from two different points of views.


Now THAT is a story worth two covers.


:ff: :ff: :ff:
 
Did anybody buy the alternative cover to Justice League?
 
John Byrne wrote an FF Annual and an Avengers Annual one year that was the same story from two different points of views.


Now THAT is a story worth two covers.


:ff: :ff: :ff:

Eh, it's two stories. Same occurrence, but the telling is different, so it's a different story.
 
I agree. But some of that penciling was just duped. Two different inkers CAN do wonders.



:ff: :ff: :ff:
 
It's fun to do sometimes. Buying variant covers to multiple books all the time is dumb, but there are some comics and some covers that are just too good to pass up.

True though in that situation I would probably do the same as Corp and buy the one i liked more

If i really loved both covers then I might buy two copies

The Corpulent 1 said:
It hurts me. Right in my soul :csad: .

Now I'll feel guilty if I ever do buy two copies of the same comic

I don't want to be hurting peoples souls :csad:
 
If I really loved two covers for a comic, I'd save the images on my computer.
 
Or maybe that's what he genuinely wants. I highly doubt that anyone is stupid enough to speculate The New 52.

There's nothing wrong with variant covers either. I buy every variant cover to Deadpool and when there's an issue of something that I really like, I'll sometimes buy the variant cover to that as well such as Jim Lee's cover to Action Comics #1.

I don't doubt it. Speculators are always running around trying to make a fast buck on something. They wrecked comics, went into real Estate, and now comics publishers want them back to buy 25-50 copies of books to inflate the numbers back to those wonderful early 90's levels of 100K copies sold.

With the Economy bad and people are desperate. There are always people who think they're "getting in on the ground floor" of an investment worth a lot of money. Those kinds of people are thinking DCnU will be the new canon for comics and the first appearance of everyone for a new age.

Variant covers are the kind of bait used to get the speculators back in the game. If it's about the story and selling the casual reader then one cover should be good enough for a print run.

It was close to 20 years ago that comic publishers pulled these kinds of stunts and collapsed the market. Nice to know they haven't learned a thing.
 
You know what's cool about digital comics?

You get all of the variant covers for free. :o
 
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