DC Relaunching Everything? - Part 5

[Manic]

Uncanny X-Men & X-Force are still #3.99

 

[Scarecrow_King]

Cap
Mighty Thor
All the Avengers books

I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but as of last month, still $3.99.

how do they keep selling Bendis's Avengers when it has that price tag? That's ridiculous. You'd think people would drop it rather quickly.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Avengers Academy and New Avengers are both $2.99. A few others--notably the major characters' titles, for the most part--are still $3.99, but the majority of Marvel's comics are back to $2.99. Here are Marvel's solicitations for August 2011, if you want to check:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=32360

 

[PWN3R]

Ah, forgot about Avengers Academy. I want to read it, but I need to catch up first. Ever the voice of reason, Corp.

EDIT: But still, Academy ships twice, and that solicit you posted has New Avengers at $3.99. So, .

 

[hippie_hunter]

Marvel quietly moved back to $2.99 for most of its normal-sized ongoings as well after DC introduced its Drawing the Line initiative. Some of its mini-series are $2.99 again as well, but I haven't been paying enough attention to say whether that's the rule or the exception.

As of November 2011:

Amazing Spider-Man (double shipping)
Astonishing X-Men
Avengers
Avenging Spider-Man
Captain America
Deadpool MAX
Fantastic Four (?)
Incredible Hulk
Invincible Iron Man
Mighty Thor
Moon Knight
New Avengers
PunisherMAX
Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man
Ultimate Comics: Ultimates
Ultimate Comics: X-Men
Uncanny X-Force
Uncanny X-Men (double shipping)
Wolverine (double shipping)
Wolverine & The X-Men
X-Men (double shipping)

So basically almost all of Marvel's major books go with the $3.99 price point.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Ah, forgot about Avengers Academy. I want to read it, but I need to catch up first. Ever the voice of reason, Corp.

EDIT: But still, Academy ships twice, and that solicit you posted has New Avengers at $3.99. So, .

Odd. The next issue was $2.99 on Heavy Ink, so I figured the whole series was. But New Avengers still falls under the "major characters" exemption I mentioned. I'm not saying Marvel's not a bunch of price-gouging jerks, just that they're not price-gouging nearly as close to across-the-board as they used to be.

Anyway, most of their major characters' comics suck, so you shouldn't be reading them anyway, regardless of price. Stick to the fringes, which are likelier to actually be good and which usually go for $2.99 to boot.

 

[Mystirious]

I'm being tempted to buy X Men again as they're bringing Mr Sinister back.

But mostly I stick to series like Runaways and Young Avengers and Avengers Academy

Bendis is the devil

 

[Tvar10]

I'm being tempted to buy X Men again as they're bringing Mr Sinister back.

that is very tempting. What issue is he coming back?

 

[mackytung06]

Macky, here's the thing. Comics like Action Comics #1 and Amazing Fantasy #15, they are valuable because they are rare. To find one in good shape is even more rare. With something like Justice League #1, over 200,000 hard copies have already been sold. Furthermore, even if you were to vaccum seal it with those CGC ratings, you'd be lucky to have it get a grade above a 7, even if you were ever so careful opening it. Reason being, the comic distributor, Diamond, does not ship stacks of comics neatly or carefully. They honestly plop a stack into a fedex box and send them to the stores that way. The only way to get a true mint modern comic book is to get it off the assembly line, which some people actually do.

If you want the hard copy of justice league as a souviner, that's great. But don't expect to put your kid through college by selling it. If you are just into comics to read them, and don't want a pile of long boxes clogging your parents' basement, and you have an iPad, by all means, going digital would be a good idea.

And hey, welcome to the Hype!. It's a fun place and I hope you enjou Justice League and pitch in to the conversation.

i see. well, i guess ill just get all the batman #1s and then after that, get all the comics digitally.

 

[Mystirious]

that is very tempting. What issue is he coming back?

He's going to be back in Uncanny X Men issue one in November

 

[Mystirious]

Imagine how sad Nightwing fans would be if we blocked it without the S.

He would forever be known as **** Grayson

I blame the hype.

They don't black out dick, but they blackout *****.

The S makes it vulgar.

S is the most vulgar letter of them all

 

[hippie_hunter]

Action Comics #1, Batgirl #1, and the second printing of Justice League #1 have sold out at Diamond. Action Comics and Batgirl are getting second printings while Justice League is getting a third.

 

[RoughNTumble]

holy cow, I hope the sales numbers have some staying power

 

[Scarecrow_King]

wow, didn't expect that from Batgirl.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Babs walks and sells out!? Double miracle pancake surprise!

 

[Jennifer Walters]

I liked Justice League #1, but why the **** are the characters saying their code names so much? And even in first person? It just reads weird.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

so new readers know who they are, would be my guess. But it's not like Batman is hard to recognize, and most people know Green Lantern from his movie.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I liked Justice League #1, but why the **** are the characters saying their code names so much? And even in first person? It just reads weird.

I haven't gotten the issue yet due to car issues, but my guess is because Green Lantern doesn't know that Bruce Wayne is Batman and that Batman doesn't know that Hal Jordan is Green Lantern.

 

[TheDragonator]

I haven't gotten the issue yet due to issues, but my is because doesn't know that Bruce Wayne is Batman and that Batman doesn't know that Hal Jordan is Green Lantern.

But at the end of Flashpoint 5 the DCnU Bruce knows who Flash is?

Speaking of which, how come half the team doesn't even show up in the book? Green Lantern, Batman (who literally simply TAKES the most powerful weapon in the universe off of Hal because he didn't...concentrate on keeping the ring on?), Vic before he's cyborg, and Superman on the very last page.

...Not really much of a teamup book. Kind of underwhelming for a first look at this new universe.

Action Comics #1 also seems, given Superman's attitude during it, not even remotely worthy of the name. Superman being more 'relatable' is one thing, but he's not Spider-Man, for god's sake.

Also, won't Batgirl scare away new readers once they realize that they missed the entire Oracle arc with all that character development? Kind of hard to do a fresh start and ignore the massive amounts of continuity behind the characters. I think the only reason she sold out was because people want to know how the hell she got better. Also, IMO, she was better as Oracle than she ever was as Batgirl. I was also mildly upset when I heard Alfred was replacing her in Arkham City.

 

[HighFivingMF]

But at the end of Flashpoint 5 the DCnU Bruce knows who Flash is?

Speaking of which, how come half the team doesn't even show up in the book? Green Lantern, Batman (who literally simply TAKES the most powerful weapon in the universe off of Hal because he didn't...concentrate on keeping the ring on?), Vic before he's cyborg, and Superman on the very last page.

...Not really much of a teamup book. Kind of underwhelming for a first look at this new universe.

Action Comics #1 also seems, given Superman's attitude during it, not even remotely worthy of the name. Superman being more 'relatable' is one thing, but he's not Spider-Man, for god's sake.

Also, won't Batgirl scare away new readers once they realize that they missed the entire Oracle arc with all that character development? Kind of hard to do a fresh start and ignore the massive amounts of continuity behind the characters. I think the only reason she sold out was because people want to know how the hell she got better. Also, IMO, she was better as Oracle than she ever was as Batgirl. I was also mildly upset when I heard Alfred was replacing her in Arkham City.

The ending of Flashpoint 5 is set in the present. Justice League is 5 years earlier and about the origin of the League. They're building to it, that's what the first arc is about.

How did you get Spider-Man from that?

Apparently Batgirl isn't scaring away new readers.

 

[The Batman]

Missed what?

That Oracle was Batgirl, and then got crippled?

Thats still there if people wanna buy it.

Its kind hard to ignore mass amounts of continuity? You mean like when they did it the first time...but instead of erasing 25 years of history, they erased over 45?

 

[terry78]

This is going to be one of those things in comic history that will be remembered like New Coke.

 

[Manic]

This is going to be one of those things in comic history that will be remembered like New Coke.

So... barely remembered if at all?

 

[hippie_hunter]

But at the end of Flashpoint 5 the DCnU Bruce knows who Flash is?

Because Flashpoint #5 is set during the present day of the DCnU while Justice League #1 is set 5 years ago.

Speaking of which, how come half the team doesn't even show up in the book? Green Lantern, Batman (who literally simply TAKES the most powerful weapon in the universe off of Hal because he didn't...concentrate on keeping the ring on?), Vic before he's cyborg, and Superman on the very last page.

...Not really much of a teamup book. Kind of underwhelming for a first look at this new universe.

Because they are building up to creating the team. Justice League's first arc deals with the origin of the Justice League.

What we have is the first issue first teaming up the only two established superheroes: Batman and Green Lantern. Followed by Superman, who is just off the first arc of Action Comics. And then the other heroes show up.

Action Comics #1 also seems, given Superman's attitude during it, not even remotely worthy of the name. Superman being more 'relatable' is one thing, but he's not Spider-Man, for god's sake.

Grant Morrison's Action Comics has Superman going back to his roots of when Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster created him. Their Superman was a lot more toned down, much more of an activist, more champion of the people back in the original Action Comics in 1938.

Also, won't Batgirl scare away new readers once they realize that they missed the entire Oracle arc with all that character development? Kind of hard to do a fresh start and ignore the massive amounts of continuity behind the characters. I think the only reason she sold out was because people want to know how the hell she got better. Also, IMO, she was better as Oracle than she ever was as Batgirl. I was also mildly upset when I heard Alfred was replacing her in Arkham City.

Oracle is not being replaced. She's being given a more specific role in Arkham City as opposed to doing everything like she did in Arkham Asylum. Alfred is the one manning the Batcave while Oracle is the one keeping Batman up to date with every outside the walls of Arkham City.

As for the rest of your statement, you're dead wrong. People are far more excited for the Batgirl book because you have Gail Simone writing who has a massive passion for the Barbara Gordon character. It actually looks like it's going to be one of the better written books of the New 52.

And you are the most wrong on most people knowing her as Oracle. Most people know her as Batgirl on account of Warner Bros. and DC using the Barbara Gordon incarnation of Batgirl in everything. The Batgirl used in all of DC's television shows is Barbara Gordon. The Batgirl used in all of DC's product licensing is Barbara Gordon. Most Batman video games use Barbara Gordon as Batgirl. Barbara Gordon is very rarely used as Oracle outside of the comics, the horrible Birds of Prey television show and the Batman: Arkham games are essentially the only major instances. that we've seen Barbara Gordon as Oracle.

 

[Franklin Richards]

DC Online.

But I wouldn't be surprised if that didn't change soon. Maybe use all that technology that saved Batman when he fought Bane on Oracle.

I agree with you. It just sounds like I'm not.