DC Relaunching Everything? - Part 8

[Kahoot]

The problem with creator owned stuff, sure they own it but when they get bored and move on we can't keep reading the character because no one else can pick up where they left off. How often does a creator open up their work and allow others to play in their sandbox? Am I just being Naïve thinking that a creator would ever want to play in someone else sandbox if it wasn't the big DC/Marvel characters?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Judging from past experience... probably. Unless you're talking about Mike Mignola or Joss Whedon.

 

[Kahoot]

I know The Walking Dead and Invincible both replaced the artest but I've often wondered how that works. As the original creative artest behind the books do they get paid for every issue regardless of whether they drew it?

 

[CConn]

The problem with creator owned stuff, sure they own it but when they get bored and move on we can't keep reading the character because no one else can pick up where they left off. How often does a creator open up their work and allow others to play in their sandbox? Am I just being Naïve thinking that a creator would ever want to play in someone else sandbox if it wasn't the big DC/Marvel characters?

Some things are better left alone, though.

For instance, I much would've preferred if Runaways had ended with BKV, rather than suffer through mediocre stories from Whedon, etc. only to fade into obscurity anyway.

 

[Kahoot]

Some things are better left alone, though.

For instance, I much would've preferred if Runaways had ended with BKV, rather than suffer through mediocre stories from Whedon, etc. only to fade into obscurity anyway.

But did you want it to end at all or would you want BKV to have written more? Also Whedon must've had people okay is story ideas, wouldn't that job fall on the original writer/creators if it was creator owned?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I know The Walking Dead and Invincible both replaced the artest but I've often wondered how that works. As the original creative artest behind the books do they get paid for every issue regardless of whether they drew it?

They retain the rights to it. There's actually a big legal issue surrounding The Walking Dead right now because Kirkman bought Moore's rights and, now that TWD is blowing up thanks to the TV show, Moore's calling foul and claiming that Kirkman "swindled" him. On the TV show, Kirkman, Moore, and Adlard are all credited as co-creators of the "graphic novel series" (because 'normal' people don't like to see the words "comic book," I guess).

 

[Hush]

Yeah I hate that people can't seem to get past the notion that comic book isn't really a childish phrase anymore.

 

[CConn]

But did you want it to end at all or would you want BKV to have written more? Also Whedon must've had people okay is story ideas, wouldn't that job fall on the original writer/creators if it was creator owned?

Sure, he could've written more. But it's his creation. If he felt it should've ended, I'd be okay with that too.

And I don't quite understand your second question.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I ****ing hate it when people say they read "graphic novels." They're obviously ashamed to say that they read comic books, which makes me want to punch them in the face.

 

[RoughNTumble]

I took a history class where my professor called graphic novels a 'euphemism' for comic books, which is unfortunately kind of true that they need one, but still kind of pissed me off, because he said it in a way that he genuinely believed comic books are juvenile. I almost said something but everyone else was having a good chuckle so I just said f*** it.

 

[CConn]

The funny thing is, with how much disrespect comics get, if you ever take a moment to look at most popular novels that are published today...they're utter ****.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

The funny thing is, with how much disrespect comics get, if you ever take a moment to look at most popular novels that are published today...they're utter ****.

I'm looking at you, Dan Brown.

 

[hippie_hunter]

The problem with creator owned stuff, sure they own it but when they get bored and move on we can't keep reading the character because no one else can pick up where they left off. How often does a creator open up their work and allow others to play in their sandbox? Am I just being Naïve thinking that a creator would ever want to play in someone else sandbox if it wasn't the big DC/Marvel characters?

Other creators have taken up duties on creator owned works. For most issues of Spawn, Todd McFarlane has let plenty of creators work on Spawn and the various other books set in that universe. Rob Liefeld is relaunching Extreme Comics with him only working on Youngblood and others working on Glory, Supreme, Prophet, and Bloodstrike. And I'm pretty sure that creators that are not Marc Silvestri have worked on Witchblade.

 

[Mystirious]

Kinda like how they let Chuck Austen write every major title in existence in the early 2000s despite everyone hating him?

Didn't he write a story about supervillains wanting to take over the world by making Nightcrawler the pope

That was wacky

Rob Liefeld is relaunching Extreme Comics with him only working on Youngblood

 

[Motown Marvel]

I ****ing hate it when people say they read "graphic novels." They're obviously ashamed to say that they read comic books, which makes me want to punch them in the face.

funny thing is, they're probably reading trade paperbacks, not graphic novels. not that they'd know the difference....

 

[hippie_hunter]

Glory is actually pretty damn good. Haven't checked out the other books, but they sound like they are attempting to put in some actual quality this time around.

 

[Mystirious]

I may check out some of the one's not done by Liefield like Glory at the store and see what i think

What's Glory about hippie hunter do you think I would dig it

 

[hippie_hunter]

I may check out some of the one's not done by Liefield like Glory at the store and see what i think

What's Glory about hippie hunter do you think I would dig it

I never read Glory before the relaunch, so I can't exactly say how different it is from previous incarnations. I bought the book because I know the artist on it and it turned out to be pretty damn good.

But from the first issue of the relaunch, it basically reintroduces us to Glory who is a half-Amazonesque/half-demon warrior who once fought in World War II and after sometime ended up disappearing. Then you have a reporter who is a Glory fangirl trying to find what ended up happening to Glory.

It's been getting some pretty good reviews as well, I recommend trying it out.

 

[Anubis]

....Is this it?

 

[Watchman]

I second the Glory recommendation. Prophet also has been amazing so far.

 

[hippie_hunter]

....Is this it?

Yeah.

 

[Anubis]

So, I wonder if we'll be seeing Supreme too eventually.

 

[hippie_hunter]

So, I wonder if we'll be seeing Supreme too eventually.

Erik Larsen will be doing Supreme, continuing on from Alan Moore's run. Supreme was also in the last issue of Glory.

 

[Kurosawa]

I took a history class where my professor called graphic novels a 'euphemism' for comic books, which is unfortunately kind of true that they need one, but still kind of pissed me off, because he said it in a way that he genuinely believed comic books are juvenile. I almost said something but everyone else was having a good chuckle so I just said f*** it.

**** "graphic novels". I read comic books.

 

[Anubis]

Not anymore......or were you just bulls**tin'?