DC Relaunching Everything? - Part 8

[Kahoot]

Liefeld has come out on Twitter saying that Hawkman, Grifter, and Deathstroke are on the verge of cancellation.

And DC don't see the connection?

 

[Lord]

Wait, wasn't those titles being on the verge of cancelation the reason why he was hired to work in them?

 

[CConn]

Truthfully, they were all on the verge of cancellation before he came on board.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah, but the question is, did the sales drop from s**ty to plague ridden rat turd when Leifeld took over?

Honestly, it's their own fault for putting out a s**ty book to begin with. Grifter in a They Live rippoff. Seriously. He coulda been DC's Nick Fury.

 

[hippie_hunter]

And DC don't see the connection?

Liefeld hasn't even started writing those books. They were on the verge of cancellation way before he came on board. To blame Liefeld here is rather unfair.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Grifter in a They Live rippoff.

That's why I liked Grifter. Heh.

 

[Mystirious]

If Liefeld was to draw for Batwoman I would lose all faith in the superhero comicbook genre.

I would be depressed if he were to be the artist on any series that I liked

 

[Anubis]

That's why I liked Grifter. Heh.

Then they shoulda used Kev or somebody.

Somebody who fit the story better.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I would be depressed if he were to be the artist on any series that I liked

Honestly, if Liefeld actually tried, he's not that bad. He's done some cover works recently like Deadpool, Glory, and Grifter that shows that with the right colorist and not going too drastic with the anatomy, it's actually quite tolerable.

Not great, but not bad to where you want to gouge your eyes.

 

[X Knight]

so, I read in some interview that DC has "big plans" for Raven in the new DC.

have they revealed anything more about Raven's future?

 

[Mystirious]

Honestly, if Liefeld actually tried, he's not that bad. He's done some cover works recently like Deadpool, Glory, and Grifter that shows that with the right colorist and not going too drastic with the anatomy, it's actually quite tolerable.

Not great, but not bad to where you want to gouge your eyes.

Has he learned how to draw feet yet

 

[Lord]

Strange how things change, didn't people love his artwork durin the late 80s and early 90s? I mean, there's a reason for why Youngblood sold more than Spawn, Wild Cats and Savage Dragon when it was released.

 

[Czar Colossus]

I mean I'd still buy it as long as JH Williams was writing it because Kate Kane is my absolute favourite comic book character of all time

But the thought of a talentless bigoted **** like Liefield doing the art for an amazing comic book like Batwoman is just horrible

There would be pouches everywhere

I can't stand his art either...but how do you know he's a bigot?

 

[Mystirious]

When it was revealed that Shatterstar was bisexual he made sickening homophobic and ignorant comments about it

I already hated his art and after I heard about his garbage opinions I absolutely despised him as a person as well

I've never paid money for anything he's worked on since I learned of his loathsome opinions

Fortunately as this is Liefield I'm not missing out on anything

 

[Lord]

He doesn't really have a problem with bisexual people, in least that's what he says, he has a problem with the character he created becoming gay. But lets face it, an asexual warrior that is strugling to know human emotion? As a warrior he may interact more with men.

 

[Wesley Dodds]

Heh. As if the world needed another reason to hate that guy.

 

[Lord]

Well, he does have an internet forum, and he seems to be worshiped as if he was the next Jack Kirby there

 

[Primal Slayer]

so, I read in some interview that DC has "big plans" for Raven in the new DC.

have they revealed anything more about Raven's future?

Nope. But that is their default answer just to keep fans at bay. They said that about Cass/Steph so many times.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

They said it about Wally both pre and post relaunch.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Nope. But that is their default answer just to keep fans at bay. They said that about Cass/Steph so many times.

Actually it's been stated by Lobdell that he wanted to use Raven but DC editorial won't let him because they have something big revolving around her.

 

[hippie_hunter]

They said it about Wally both pre and post relaunch.

Actually they have said that they don't have plans for Wally for the time being because they don't know how to use him in the post-Flashpoint DCU.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I thought they said they intend on bringing him back, just not until the dust has settled from Flashpoint because of his now awkward age amongst the superhero community.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I thought they said they intend on bringing him back, just not until the dust has settled from Flashpoint because of his now awkward age amongst the superhero community.

If Dick Grayson exists, then so can Wally. The problem is that in the post-Flashpoint DCU, Barry Allen never died, so how can Wally be the Flash? Nor is Barry married to Iris, so why would Wally ever come to meet Barry?

 

[CConn]

Because Barry's a pervert.

 

[Czar Colossus]

Well, he does have an internet forum, and he seems to be worshiped as if he was the next Jack Kirby there

As an artist, I do not like his work, but with all this vitriol it sounds like he's hated personally. I've never met the guy, he could be a nice person. As far as his remarks on Shatterstar go; anytime someone comments on homosexuality, it seems that unless it's a comment embracing all aspects and representations, you get hammered as some kind of demonic human being.
I understand that we must temper our comments with some level of sensitivity and common sense, but there seems to be a lot of intolerance when it comes to differing opinions. I remember when I found out that Ultimate Colossus was going to end up being a gay character, I stated that I prefer that he not be, but since he is, it has not changed the fact that he is still my favorite Super Hero in the Ultimate universe; just as he is in the mainstream MU. I also preferred Vic Sage to Renee Montoya as the Question; does that make me a bad person? (I sure hope not.)