The Dark Knight "Dent, Damnit!", Dent casting "may not be considered conventional"

raybia said:
If they go with a black actor, the only one that will accept is Denzel.

Anyone else will be a big, big mistake and will force me to reconsider how much in Nolan I trust.

Bring back Billy Dee why don't we...
 
Tojo said:
What the hell is this suddenley gotta cast a black man as Dent. You seem to be testing me about whether i'd accept a black guy.

No, it's just that Jett said on the BOF boards not think "white." That, combined with the "unconventional" bit, would certainly imply it's a black guy up for the role.

Now Jett might be wrong, but I'm sure that anything he posts, he believes is true. So in essence he may be wrong but I doubt he's lying. So I'm trying to figure out how many of the people here will need new diapers if they cast a black man as Dent. So far I'm thinking we're gonna need six cases of Huggies and an assload of baby powder.

Yes, Foxx is young and handsome, but no, he is not more suitable than Phoenix. I don't particularly think characters have to resemble their comic counterparts, but Phoenix has a darkness, a mysteriousness about him that neither Foxx nor Denzel have imo.

I think Denzel can be a badass when it's required of him, so I know he'd do a fine job. As for Jamie Foxx, I know he's predominantly thought of as a comedian but his turn in "Ray" proves that he's a very capable actor, with range. He's not my first choice, but I think he could do it.

While we're at it Keyser, how about Will Smith? He's young, black and handsome! Or how about Taye Diggs? Young and handsome. Hell what about Gael Bernal Garcia, another young and handsome actor.

I don't know who Gael Bernal Garcia is, so I can't comment on him, but Will Smith and Taye Diggs, I can comment on, and since you seem to be testing me, let me answer honestly: they would be HORRIBLE choices. Not because they're black, but because they're not great actors. Taye Diggs is a friggin' underwear model. Will Smith is a good guy and I like him, but he's been in a lot of movies and other than Ali, (which I've not seen but have heard good things about) I've seen him play non-comedic roles and he always seems to pretty much play himself. It works for him because he's a likeable guy and you root for him automatically, so as an action hero he's fun, but as a serious villain role? I can't see it.

But that has nothing to do with Jamie Foxx or Denzel Washington, who are both strong dramatic actors. Denzel more than Foxx, of course.
 
Keyser Sushi said:
Well, he certainly is high-profile. But again, if Jett is correct, they're "aiming high." That would imply top-shelf, A-list, wouldn't it?

Well, that is true. I just hope whoever they have in mind isn't too high up there that it'll be distracting. Even Freeman, the biggest name in Begins in my opinion, wasn't so commercialised and so out there that he took away from the film. Foxx has become pretty well known since his performance in Ray. Which, while he is certainly talented, may not have nessacarily been good.

Washington, oddly, I think may stand a chance of fitting in the group of well respected but not overly distracting. My real hope of it being Cheadle is that he's what I'd consider 'aiming high', considering all the buzz he was able to get during "Hotel Rawanda" and "Crash"; But what I'd love about him getting cast is that he's stayed out of the spotlight since. Foxx hasn't done that.
 
raybia said:
If they go with a black actor, the only one that will accept is Denzel.

Anyone else will be a big, big mistake and will force me to reconsider how much in Nolan I trust.

...Don Cheadle is black.
 
Master Bruce said:
...Don Cheadle is black.

Yeah, I know, and I forgot all about that suggestion you gave. Its such a radically choice that its really hard to take seriously. But now I have to restate myself.

If they go with a black actor, the only one that will accept is Denzel and Don Cheadle.

Anyone else will be a big, big mistake and will force me to reconsider how much in Nolan I trust.
 
Master Bruce said:
Well, that is true. I just hope whoever they have in mind isn't too high up there that it'll be distracting. Even Freeman, the biggest name in Begins in my opinion, wasn't so commercialised and so out there that he took away from the film. Foxx has become pretty well known since his performance in Ray. Which, while he is certainly talented, may not have nessacarily been good.

I don't wanna get into the "Ray" discussion. LOL. I will say that, as far as high-profile actors go, I do share the concern that the 90's Batman franchise suffered from going for big-name stars without regard to whether or not they were really suited to the roles. And while it worked, IMO, with Jack Nicholson in '89, it did not work in Forever or B&R, and we don't need a repeat journey down that road.

I do think that a high-profile actor will work, if, like Jack Nicholson, the actor suits the role. I do believe Denzel could deliver a fine performance as Harvey and I would not object in the least if he got the role. I'm not convinced it's going to be him, but I do believe, now, that it'll be a black man.

Washington, oddly, I think may stand a chance of fitting in the group of well respected but not overly distracting. My real hope of it being Cheadle is that he's what I'd consider 'aiming high', considering all the buzz he was able to get during "Hotel Rawanda" and "Crash"; But what I'd love about him getting cast is that he's stayed out of the spotlight since. Foxx hasn't done that.

I really hadn't thought about Cheadle. He's not a big name, I think, but he's starred in some seminal movies and he's a sophisticated type. That could be interesting...
 
After all the the names mentioned for this role... are we really down to Denzel/Cheadle??? Hard to believe... I just can't see it though... none of the names I have heard so far are slam dunks...
 
I really hadn't thought about Cheadle. He's not a big name, I think, but he's starred in some seminal movies and he's a sophisticated type. That could be interesting...

I agree, but his schedule looks booked for next year, sadly.
 
call me narrow-minded but i couldn't accept a rapper who makes terible music as Harvey Dent, one of the most iconic villains of all time.

I just hope that there are better reasons for casting someone than because they are unconventional. I would not be happy with Denzel.
 
Cheadle is also totally wrong for Dent. TOTALLY.
 
Skin color doesn't bother me as long as the actor can nail Dent's personality.
 
FaT_tONle said:
After all the the names mentioned for this role... are we really down to Denzel/Cheadle??? Hard to believe... I just can't see it though... none of the names I have heard so far are slam dunks...

Well, we're trying to think of A-list black actors. This list is not as long as it should be, but if you can come up with more names, lay them on us!
 
Tojo said:
call me narrow-minded but i couldn't accept a rapper who makes terible music as Harvey Dent, one of the most iconic villains of all time.

Who are we talking about here? :confused:

I just hope that there are better reasons for casting someone than because they are unconventional. I would not be happy with Denzel.

Of course they do. They're not casting a person because he's unconventional, they're casting him despite the fact that he's unconventional.

And you wouldn't be happy with Denzel? That's kinda sad, actually...
 
I'll say it again: Kiefer Sutherland for Dent.
 
Keyser Sushi said:
Yeah, 'cuz he's not white.

Uhhh...

:confused:
I do not subscribe to the theory that a black actor is any more likely than a white actor. Kiefer Sutherland should play Dent. If he was green, I would still say he should play Dent. Kiefer Sutherland could be a rainbow coloured woman from the moons of Jupiter, and I would still say he should play Dent.
 
Keyser Sushi said:
Yeah, 'cuz he's not white.

Uhhh...

:confused:

Keifer Sutherland.... comon guys... but back to ur point... I just don't think there are any other black actors that we are comfortable with.... besides the big three (one which is toooooooo old and the other who is already another character in Begins), who else is there? Just rappers and then the young guns... I am not comfortable with Foxx and everyone else is probably below Fox... Cheadle is just way too far fetched... I am betting Jett heard something and blew it out of proportion... maybe it won't be an obvious pick... but it won't be way out in left field... I will seriously **** my pants if Denzel nabs this...
 
Saint said:
. Kiefer Sutherland could be a rainbow coloured woman from the moons of Jupiter, and I would still say he should play Dent.

sounds like one hell of a woman
 
raybia said:
sounds like one hell of a woman
And, being Kiefer Sutherland, she'd always be shouting "THERE'S NO TIME!"
 
I still firmly believe we're getting a white Dent.
 
Joshua Jackson[Pacey from Dawson creek] for dent, it would be funny to see him play Katie holmes new boss.
 
Boom said:
I still firmly believe we're getting a white Dent.

Probably. Washington is still a long shot in my book. But wow, thing about the publicity TDK would get from that casting.
 

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