"Destructive Testing" Season 2: Episode 15 Discussion Thread

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Another thing I loved was the interaction between Miles Warren and Kraven. :up:

Warren's already on that Scum of villainy path and Gwen's not dead yet (Guess the Jackel might make his debut pre-stacy death .) I wouldn't be surprised if his DNA testing results in Warren mutating into a human Jackle (similar to Kraven .)
 
Can anyone get some images up? I wanna put up a pic of Kraven saying "Thundercats Ho!!!" in the caption thread.
 
thanks for the yt link, going to check out the episode myself now.
 
*Review May contain Spoilers*

Great, Fun episode. Weisman and crew never fail to deliver. :yay:
This series truly feels like reading a comic. Superb pacing. I have never seen it done better in another animated series.

Character development is just excellent.
"Static Shock" and "X-men" (90s) Come close to what they have to offer but miss the mark by just inches.
(Batman TAS was a great show and still notable...but it only had character development between the shows. Beyond, Justice league, etc.)

Things aren't always simple in life.
I love how Peter knows he loves Gwen, yet there is drama coming from the new attention that Liz is giving him. I know that confusion. It's realistic thus far, so if they do their job than things won't wrap up nicely as they do in the movies. It's already clear that the relationship between Peter and Gwen will change by the end of the season. It was cool to see something happen to one of the cast members. (Flash) I won't spoil it...but this will have a long term effect...and it will be interesting to see how Peter's relationship with him is affected by it. Will he learn to respect Peter in front of others? Will they become friends as they did in the comics?? Peter has no friends as of now...since he cannot bring himself to really talk to Gwen and since Harry is off in Europe.

I'm not a fan of Kraven, but....
He hasn't done anything notable since his last hunt. (He died. :P)
I love what they've done with the character here. He was just as nutty as he was in last hunt. Only problem I had with him is his bestial form. I think he's powered up just a tad too much....This may cause a couple of problems with continuity in the next episode. (seeing as Spidey will be going up against the sinister six WITHOUT his black suit.) However its just a minor complaint...it MADE sense within the context of the story, and I honestly don't know how it will play out. The action scenes with him were beautifully done.

Humor
This episode probably made me laugh the most. SPIDEY IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY! They've truly captured the character of him here. He's cofident when he's Spidey...and shy when he's Peter. Bruised eye, Phone call with liz, Thermals with hearts all made me LOL.

9/10 This episode was great....made me look forward to the next one....and it's been along time since I've said that for any show. (Animation or Live action) :woot:
 
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Well i just got through watching the whole episode on yt. I thought it was a pretty good episode. I enjoyed human kraven and claspco they were done very well. Calspco's voice actress did very well i liked how she sounded. Kraven's was pretty good too, though didnt like how he pronounced his last name. Loved seeing cameo of debra whitman, i was wondering if we were going to have her in this series. Cant wait to see what they do with her. As for miles nice to see his storyline is coming alone nicely and cant wait to see if/when they will get to his jackal storyline. Interesting they decided to go more ultimate's route for kraven instead of keeping him more classic lee version. I agree his beastial form isnt that great looking, hopefully in future episodes he will be toned back a bit/turn more human looking again. Loved the continuiting plot with the master planner. Good plot, and action, and humor, enjoyed it alot. would rate the episode 8 out of 10. And on final note poor flash, i hope he recovers well.
 
Warren's already on that Scum of villainy path and Gwen's not dead yet (Guess the Jackel might make his debut pre-stacy death .) I wouldn't be surprised if his DNA testing results in Warren mutating into a human Jackle (similar to Kraven .)
Indeed, and that's one of the reasons I'm excited to see waht happens next. :up:
 
This episode had some of the best animation this show has seen. Loved those web swinging and fight scenes.

Kraven was great; wasn't too thrilled when I first heard he would become half lion like in Ultimate but it worked just fine.

Loved Miles Warren. He's already a bad egg and he's packing a revolver to boot. And another ending with the MP!:woot:

I'd give it anywhere from an 8 to 9.
 
I feel like my zoology lesson about lions is being overlooked. v_v

So it's been established that Gwen didn't know Eddie was Venom. I was kind of hoping she would but eh. Also, you'd think Liz would ask about Pete's shiner.
 
Phew! I literally had to wait all day to watch this! We've got a family friend from England over and have been taking her out to see the sights all day, every day. Anywho...



I've never been a huge Kraven fan, so I don't have any nitpicks about his incarnation here. The show itself isn't supposed to be a 100% literal translation of the comics anyway, so any changes they make are fine with me.

Fantastic episode. Once again, they're subtly setting up situations that will smack us in the face later on in the season. Loved the banter and downright brutal fight scenes. Oh, and the heart-patterned thermals. *snerk* Don't tell me I was the only one who heard the sickening CRUNCH when Flash got tackled. I knew that couldn't be good. And then- what's this about surgery? Kudos to a Saturday morning cartoon for having something so dramatic. What is this, the 90's? :P (Makes you wonder about the eventual fate of Gwen, now that the laws of being a "kid's show" don't apply here...) Double kudos to the writers for giving Flash, and all the Midtown High kids personalities and real character development, rather than having them be the stock, snobby kids who pick on Peter throughout the entire series. Here's just hoping they don't drag out the Gwen/Peter thing for too long.

Gotta wonder though, why Liz didn't mention Peter's black eye?

9/10
 
Probably cuz Flash getting surgery in the next room.

Oh, they'll drag out the love triangle til the end of the season, I'm sure. Interesting to see Flash added to the opening n this episode.
 
Managed to track this episode and I have to say I liked it for the most part:

Now I'm saying this purely as a heterosexual man, but Kraven was one bad-ass sexy beast. His taking down the charging Rhino in Africa, the interaction with Calypso, his first encounter with Spider-Man (in which we learn what he wears under those tights, ladies :woot:)--he was proving to be just the epitome of awesomeness. But then they had to go and make him like the Puma in that he became a "were-cat." Granted, I can understand why it happened, but one thing that Kraven from the comics was all about wanting to be, not just the best hunter, but the best human being on the planet. Granting getting mutated was probably a more kid friendly way to go that him taking "mysterious jungle potions" (although it certainly didn't stop them going a similar route with Harry as the "Green Goblin"), but it does in some way rob some of the esscence of who the character is.

Still, at least we get to see some of the development of Miles Warren as becoming the villainous Jackal out of the deal, not to mention a nod by Spidey towards the Black Cat from last season. Oh, and we also got the debut of Debra Whitman whose ethnicity not only changed but gives Peter the silent treatment when introduced. Nice. :oldrazz:

As for the soap opera of Peter's life, it certainly looks as though he's mistaking Liz's attention for love and confusing his real feelings for Gwen all the more. It's pretty clear, however, that Liz still has feelings for Flash deep down and that Peter is just the rebound guy, which is understandable. In some ways, this offers a nice tweaking of the original comics, in that unlike Stan Lee's original stories, where Peter thought Liz only paid attention to him to drive Flash jealous and didn't realize she grew to care about him, whereas here, Peter thinks he's falling in love with Liz and that Liz isn't paying enough attention to him, and at the same time feeling bad about Flash--especially after what happens to him, which is sure to provide an interesting development.

Also, since Flash was the character in the title sequence this episode, I guess it's clear that whoever shows up in that sequence alongside Peter this season will have a plot thread devoted to them. Perhaps there could be a future episode in which Gwen DOESN'T show up in the credits, perhaps?

As for the Master Planner, well the voice credits do say Peter Nichols, so it's likely to be Doc Ock. But then again, it still could be a serve and end up being the Chameleon for all we know.

Overall, an episode that was just okay this week.
 
Hey, everyone. I've been kicking back in the shadows enjoying reading what all your opinions have been of the series. On behalf of all of us on Spectacular Spider-man Animated, thank you all for being a part of making it a hit and enjoying the hard work we've poured into it. We all are die-hard fans of the ol' webslinger, so thank you for all your patience, and anticipation.

It's great that season 2 finally made it to air, even if it means airing in Canada first. :)

Happy New Year to you, and all the best to you and yours.
 
yea totally love the show and really hope we get a 3rd season plus more. I want to see this show last as long as the 90s series. So far i consider this the spider-man show like batman tas is considered the batman series.
 
We do, too. :)
Those are some big shoes to fill; Batman TAS, but thank you for the wonderful compliment.

Thought it'd be a kick to share this with since the shows have already aired for the first 2 episodes.

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yea totally love the show and really hope we get a 3rd season plus more. I want to see this show last as long as the 90s series. So far i consider this the spider-man show like batman tas is considered the batman series.
 
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Awesome!

I, too, prefer SSM over all the previous Spidey cartoons. The simplistic art style allows for some of the smoothest and most beautiful animation I've ever seen. Can't wait to see what lies ahead for everyone's friendly neighborhood wall-crawler!
 
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Even though I guess Kraven's lion form isn't bad, I would hope that he is turned back into a human just with all of his lion abilities...Oh well, I don't really mind or really care anyway. Master Planner continues to impress me and that is just by hearing him talk. I'm in the camp that says without a doubt that it is Octavius himself. Especially considering the fact that he is master minding the 2nd Sinister Six. Also, in other new Debra Whitman is black now, which I don't mind, as she would basically almost be a clone of Gwen physically in this series, and as I learned from the 90's Spider-Man series "I really hate clones."

Oh and to add to what was said before, this show is Batman: The Animated series re-incarnated as Spider-Man...it is just THAT good. It really scares me that it is going to Disney XD with all of their edits (They cut parts out from "Night of the Lizard" from Spider-Man TAS. When you get to cutting and editing THAT show, it begins to scare me). Thank goodness that we'll probably see the whole season before it makes it to Disney XD.
 
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I really enjoyed the episode and it's a perfect example of why art style of the show was chosen; fantastically fluid and dynamic action and fight sequences.

The Peter/Gwen soap opera continues, but hopefully it's not going to drag out the whole season.
The episode descriptions indicate that this sub plot will be there until the end of the season.
 
I didn't like that episode all that much, but then again, I've always found Kraven a bit boring and bland villain, so it's not a big surpirise. I'm not sure that I like the whole "genetic experiment" deal with him, but I suppose that it has its purpose on the long term, since it seems clear that they have something in mind for Miles Warren.

The thing between Peter, Liz and Gwen continues. It's adequate enough, but they shouldn't drag it for too long.
I'm curious what will happen with Flash if his knee never truly recovers on 100 %; like someone already said, it's not a bad idea for character development for a cartoon TV show.
I'm a bit surprised that there was no development on the thing between Peter and Norman Osborn, given the past episode.
Also, not much development on the plan of the Master Planner, unless it includes the destruction of Spider-Man.

All in all... 6.5/10, I'd say. Hope that the next episode will be better.
 
i haven't watched the ep yet but not a fan of kraven turning into an animal, it takes away from the lizard
 
Great action....

great humor...

love the subplots and character development...

all in all a very good episode. cant wait for the next episode....hunt in packs
 
We do, too. :)
Those are some big shoes to fill; Batman TAS, but thank you for the wonderful compliment.

amazing spectacular show cheeks. I was skeptical abt the art direction you guys went with before watching the show but i just love it now.

This is THE ultimate absolute spidey show ever made. I hope we get a 3rd, 4th, 5th seasons and why not even more.

I must admit though i was let down by kraven becoming half a lion i really wish he would regain his human form (which is badass) and keep the mutant power.

i was never a fan of ultimate kraven.
 
I wonder, do you guys think Miles will become the Jackal this season? I mean, he could, but I doubt it.
 
just finished watching it, Kraven was by far more interesting as a human. Him taking down the rhino and wrestling with the tiger was awesome.

again the perfect kraven story for me is him coming to hunt the lizard (after taking out all of spidey's other totem baddies) and having spidey thwart him, then turning his attention to spidey, then finally winning with the last hunt. The perfect kraven trilogy.

it was also weird seeing kraven as a cat like figure and calypso as human, a reverse to what happened in the comics.

kraven is an old school batman character, don't take away from his greatness.
 
Very good point :up:
it also takes away from scorpion now that i think about it.

that formula thing is going to be this generation's version of the neogenic recombinator

but it won't be as cool, the neogenic recombinator is badass...


Was anyone else thinking spidey was going to use that dna purging thing he got from conners on kraven?
 
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