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I hated the first season, especially the ending. The animation was good though. Lady/Mary was insufferable. It felt like she discovered the f-word and cursing for the first time and loves it.

The allegory didn't work for me because this is Devil May Cry. Not to mention, Dante came off as incredibly weak and nerfed throughout the season. He couldn't win almost any fight without help.

As much as I hate to say it, the 2007 anime series was better.

This is Vergil's motivation. That simple.

 
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I hated the first season, especially the ending. The animation was good though. Lady/Mary was insufferable. It felt like she discovered the f-word and cursing for the first time and loves it.

The allegory didn't work for me because this is Devil May Cry. Not to mention, Dante came off as incredibly weak and nerfed throughout the season. He couldn't win almost any fight without help.

As much as I hate to say it, the 2007 anime series was better.

This is Vergil's motivation. That simple.


The allegory fits Devil May Cry. The original story is about the son of a refugee. I don't get how Dane was "nerfed". Dante's power has grown through the games, but the basic idea has always been he can get his butt kicked. Difficulty is a big part of the games. More so then Bayonetta.
 
I hated the first season, especially the ending. The animation was good though. Lady/Mary was insufferable. It felt like she discovered the f-word and cursing for the first time and loves it.

The allegory didn't work for me because this is Devil May Cry. Not to mention, Dante came off as incredibly weak and nerfed throughout the season. He couldn't win almost any fight without help.

As much as I hate to say it, the 2007 anime series was better.

This is Vergil's motivation. That simple.



What works in games doesn’t always translate well to other mediums. They probably nerfed Dante because if he was at DMC 3 levels from the outset, he would absolutely wreck everybody and that would get really boring really quick because there would be no tension or stakes in any of the fights. Aside from DMC 3, he’s pretty much just a static character who doesn’t really develop at all throughout the games, and you need to give a place for him to start from in order to go somewhere later on. Also, from what I can tell, he’s pretty much at the beginning of his career, so you could just say he’s just a little bit green. I imagine that as the series goes on, he will become more of the character that we know from the games in terms of powers and skill.

As far as Lady goes, I sort of get the concern, but I saw her cursing more as coming from a place of anger, hurt and trauma, a coping mechanism and way to just try to look cool but not actually meant to be cool. I mean, in her moments where she’s just being just kind of casual and normal with Dante, she noticeably doesn’t curse as much, which further shows that it’s just something that she projects to guard herself and prevent herself from getting hurt again. Also, it’s obvious that her character arc isn’t done yet, so she still has some room to grow and develop. I had this idea of her next season finding out that VP Baines ordered the massacre of the Makaian refugees, getting really angry, breaking her ties with Darkcom and goes rogue, wanting to get back at Darkcom and really upping the cursing. As the season goes on, she slowly softens and and realizes running solely on solely on revenge is very consuming and poisonous. Maybe it takes her realizing how much like the White Rabbit she is to finally snap out of it and give it up.

Concerning Vergil working for Mundus, I’m waiting to see season two to get the full idea of his character motivation. I can see them paralleling him with Mary’s/Lady’s both realizing they’ve been played and used by their respective superiors, making them turn and going rogue. Whereas Mary, let’s go of her revenge and anger, Vergil becomes more and more motivated (heh) by it. Maybe him needing more power is initially stoked by him being grateful to Mundus for saving him, and and when he finds out the truth, it becomes corrupted and something he instead seeks to gain to overthrow him.

The whole “War on Hell = War on Terror” is something I haven’t quite settled on yet. I need to see next season to see how it’s implemented and progresses before I make a proper, solid judgment on whether it was worth it or not as a story decision.

Ultimately, it’s an adaptation of Devil May Cry taking its world and characters and doing its own thing. It’s not the games and that’s fine. Personally, I had a fun time with this. Not trying to convince you to like the series. Just giving reasons why I think the show did what it did.
 
What works in games doesn’t always translate well to other mediums. They probably nerfed Dante because if he was at DMC 3 levels from the outset, he would absolutely wreck everybody and that would get really boring really quick because there would be no tension or stakes in any of the fights. Aside from DMC 3, he’s pretty much just a static character who doesn’t really develop at all throughout the games, and you need to give a place for him to start from in order to go somewhere later on. Also, from what I can tell, he’s pretty much at the beginning of his career, so you could just say he’s just a little bit green. I imagine that as the series goes on, he will become more of the character that we know from the games in terms of powers and skill.

As far as Lady goes, I sort of get the concern, but I saw her cursing more as coming from a place of anger, hurt and trauma, a coping mechanism and way to just try to look cool but not actually meant to be cool. I mean, in her moments where she’s just being just kind of casual and normal with Dante, she noticeably doesn’t curse as much, which further shows that it’s just something that she projects to guard herself and prevent herself from getting hurt again. Also, it’s obvious that her character arc isn’t done yet, so she still has some room to grow and develop. I had this idea of her next season finding out that VP Baines ordered the massacre of the Makaian refugees, getting really angry, breaking her ties with Darkcom and goes rogue, wanting to get back at Darkcom and really upping the cursing. As the season goes on, she slowly softens and and realizes running solely on solely on revenge is very consuming and poisonous. Maybe it takes her realizing how much like the White Rabbit she is to finally snap out of it and give it up.

Concerning Vergil working for Mundus, I’m waiting to see season two to get the full idea of his character motivation. I can see them paralleling him with Mary’s/Lady’s both realizing they’ve been played and used by their respective superiors, making them turn and going rogue. Whereas Mary, let’s go of her revenge and anger, Vergil becomes more and more motivated (heh) by it. Maybe him needing more power is initially stoked by him being grateful to Mundus for saving him, and and when he finds out the truth, it becomes corrupted and something he instead seeks to gain to overthrow him.

The whole “War on Hell = War on Terror” is something I haven’t quite settled on yet. I need to see next season to see how it’s implemented and progresses before I make a proper, solid judgment on whether it was worth it or not as a story decision.

Ultimately, it’s an adaptation of Devil May Cry taking its world and characters and doing its own thing. It’s not the games and that’s fine. Personally, I had a fun time with this. Not trying to convince you to like the series. Just giving reasons why I think the show did what it did.

Her cursing was nothing more than immature, bad, and lazy writing. In Devil May Cry 3, Lady's anger is directed at demons. She believes all demons are bad, including Dante. However, after seeing her father, Arkham, as the villain behind the events of Devil May Cry 3, she learns that all humans are not purely good, and she learns from Dante that not all demons are bad. Even a "Devil May Cry for their loved one." Her anger and coping from her childhood causes her to lash out at Dante, and she believes that Dante is also a villain and responsible, but she eventually recognizes that Dante is not a bad guy.

It makes no sense that Dante can survive mortal and grievous wounds and shrug them off, but he gets knocked out by one syringe injection. Lady's betrayal of Dante at the end of the season was also garbage. The dude literally risked his life to save millions of people, and that's how you repay him? Also, your boss f'n hates you and thinks you are garbage and was treating you like utter trash earlier.

Using Devil May Cry as an allegory for the war on terror, sorry it just doesn't work. The whole point of the story was that Sparda sympathized with humanity and betrayed hell and demons to save the world, and he married a human woman.

Now in this version, Sparda looks like an utter scumbag for his actions who forsaked innocent civilians of his own realm.

This allegory would've made more sense if they were adapting the 2013 reboot, as that version was more satirical and riffed on American geo-political situations and conservatism. If you are adapting the mainline series, it just doesn't work. Also, the whole point of Devil May Cry to me is getting to play an ultra-powerful, ultra-badass character. It's fine if you want to work Dante up to that point, but the new animated series severely de-powered him and weakened him the whole way through to the point I didn't even recognize him anymore.
 


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Don’t remember this shot of Lady in S1. Deleted scene?
 

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