Horror Dexter - Part 6

For me I liked the episode and I agree once it was clear Deb wasn't going to make it. Dexter took a whole different tone to everything he did. When he sat in that room with Saxon it was like old Dex. He didn't have to kill him but he needed to for Debra. I didn't see it as Debra being buried at sea. I saw it as she was the last victim of the Bay Habor Butcher. Which I thought was really fitting for everything since she found out what he was.
 
For me I liked the episode and I agree once it was clear Deb wasn't going to make it. Dexter took a whole different tone to everything he did. When he sat in that room with Saxon it was like old Dex. He didn't have to kill him but he needed to for Debra. I didn't see it as Debra being buried at sea. I saw it as she was the last victim of the Bay Habor Butcher. Which I thought was really fitting for everything since she found out what he was.

Well, you're right. On the surface it was a burial at sea, but he absolutely felt responsible for her death beyond pulling the plug, so yeah she was the "last victim" of the BHB.
 
I like the actual ending more. Dexter being executed was an ending I had contemplated myself as a viewer for a long time. This one I actually found to be a suckerpunch to the gut that I wasn't expecting.

It's a cool pitch though, certainly would've been a helluva different final season if that was where things ended up.
 
it really doesnt feel like rita died 4 YEARS AGO!
 
That recap and the other comments on Dexter's fate I largely agree with.

However after having a little time to digest it...

I think the very end is good, unexpected. It worked but not in the context of the rest of the episode. He's a shell of himself, yes. He "died" with Deb when he went into the hurricane and came out of it as a lumberjack of all things.

And Dexter is a professional long-distance swimmer to pull off that feat. In a hurricane no less. Which leads to the problems.

He still could have Hannah and Harrison. He could come out of this alive and unscathed with a flimsy explanation no one would look twice at given his situation leading up to his not-death at sea. He lost Deb but he still has his son and his woman. It makes his self-imposed exile only kind of sort of work there. Had they been lost to him, it would be complete. He'd literally have nothing but that isn't the case here. So maybe in a few months or a few years he regains some of his lost humanity and looks them up.

Debra's just fine fake out was ********. She should have been terminal from the start. It should never have been that false sense of relief because it felt fake. I was waiting for the truth to come out. That the damage was greater than they thought or that there were complications in surgery. Instead she has a sudden stroke and is a vegetable. That's a weak attempt to play up the drama. I think even those who didn't read spoilers would know she's going to die. They really had no choice but the prolonging part felt like filler so they could use it to get Saxon later.

If she had lived, Dexter probably wouldn't have done his Paul Bunyon imitation and instead gone off to be with Hannah and Harrison. I get that but it could've been handled differently. Losing all three would be the devestation Dexter needed to finish off his humanity. Alternatively, the "happy ending" Dexter gets to become more or less normal with Hannah, Harrison and the occasional visit from Deb and probably Quinn.

Hannah being Harrison's mother might work. I don't know yet what to make of it. She's obviously got some motherly instincts and cares for Harrison and they got away.

And the rest of the cast.

Masuka and his daughter... unresolved and utterly pointless subplot. Why was this ever introduced? She didn't contribute anything to the story at all except to give Masuka a few uncomfortable scenes and one liners. She could have played a bigger role somehow instead of taking up time doing absolutely nothing. Unless it was meant to show Masuka as maturing which was so half-assed it was laughable.

Quinn, he definitely took it hard and he's going to either go self-destructive and die in a dark alley somewhere or harden his resolve and clean his **** up. Whatever he does will be difficult and change him, if he lives through it. Doubtful he pulls a Dexter though.

Batista, I just feel sorry for all the **** he's gone through. He's a good man but a mediocre detective to have not picked up on Dexter especially after the Saxon scene. What he's been left to clean up is not as bad as it could have been but there's still much for him to deal with, losing both the Morgans, Saxon's death on his watch, etc. He's probably got the most sympathy after Quinn.

Saxon, this guy didn't warrant serious involvement the entire season when he could have been the greatest of Dexter's kills. The ultimate villian. Instead a complete waste of a character. His death was also lame. Stabbed in the neck with a pen?

Elway gets to live. He was smart enough to track Hannah down but dumb enough to get tranqed on the bus. He was annoying but more competent than Miami Metro.

I feel I'm forgetting something else but after this ending, I think it's just time to let it be. So many great and terrible things all at once in this episode. It felt like the writers were split on the how of Dexter's ending. Do we let him live or die? Captured or escape? What about the supporting cast? They got a mixture of everything but couldn't lock down a definite direction. The entire season seemed to go all over the map.

Reading Phillips ending, I knew exactly what he was referring to. I read that book twice in English classes, and I've seen the short movie twice in English classes. Once in high school and once in college. That's akin to the alternate ending I'd read about where Dexter only imagined the last part of the episode.
 
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i dont like phillips proposed ending it seems very cliche and been done many times before
 
his ending would mean this entire season would of needed to be dexter on the run tho
Phillips left after season 4, so I imagine had he stayed we wouldn't have gotten what we did for seasons 5-8.
 
I was also VERY disappointed that Dexter mentioned visiting Cody and Astor for the first time in years in the last few episodes, and we didn't even get to see THAT.
 
Dexter wouldn't need to be on the run for that to work. Maybe he just finally surrenders or gets caught.
 
I actually do buy his self-imposed exile though. He said it himself, he destroys everything he loves. I don't think he was equipped emotionally to deal with Deb's death. From the beginning she has been his strongest tie to normalcy. Like he says in the narration, first he wanted nothing more than to feel...now he just wants it to stop. To experience something like the loss of Deb when he was at his most "human" and know deep down that it's his fault...it's too much for him. He realizes now that he can never really change. And he doesn't want to continue being Harrison's dad if he's an empty shell of himself and has the need to kill again. There's still a loving, human part of him deep down that loves Harrison and Hannah, but it's buried in a sea of darkness that he knows he'll never be able to escape. He doesn't want to inflict it on them.
 
So Harrison is gonna grow up thinking his dad abandoned him?
 
how is it that quinn and batista arent suspicious... i mean it looks like quinn knows what really happened... kind of with batista... its just strange no one points it out.

no one finding out is ****. **** **** ****.
 
So Harrison is gonna grow up thinking his dad abandoned him?
No, he's going to grow up thinking his dad died in the hurricane. Hannah saw the news report on it on the laptop. She'll presumably tell him the truth (as she knows it) when the time is right.
 
I think Quinn and Batista had a good hunch that Dexter went to murder Saxon. However, the point of that scene, IMO, is for Quinn and Batista to play the role of the audience. They justified Dexter's vengeful murder, just as we have throughout the eight seasons and were okay with it.
 
Quinn knows. That look on his face? He's had longstanding suspicions about Dexter, and he KNOWS something went down at the end of Season 5 with Peter Weller but he owes Dex. I think he pretty much at least knows and is keeping quiet. When he said, "I wish I had done it myself", it seems like a tacit acknowledgement and approval of Dexter's code. Then there's Batista, who honestly, has never been the sharpest tool in the shed. And he has a huge blind spot when it comes to Dexter.

Of course, it's one of those open-to-interpretaiton scenes, but I feel Quinn essentially knows.
 
I actually do buy his self-imposed exile though. He said it himself, he destroys everything he loves. I don't think he was equipped emotionally to deal with Deb's death. From the beginning she has been his strongest tie to normalcy. Like he says in the narration, first he wanted nothing more than to feel...now he just wants it to stop. To experience something like the loss of Deb when he was at his most "human" and know deep down that it's his fault...it's too much for him. He realizes now that he can never really change. And he doesn't want to continue being Harrison's dad if he's an empty shell of himself and has the need to kill again. There's still a loving, human part of him deep down that loves Harrison and Hannah, but it's buried in a sea of darkness that he knows he'll never be able to escape. He doesn't want to inflict it on them.
It sort of works. He lost Deb but he's also lost Rita, Harry, his brother and mother. He's lost a lot but he hasn't lost Harrison or Hannah yet. That's where this gets iffy. After all he's been through he chose to do this. It was chosen, not forced. It means he can choose to leave it too and find them in the future if he changes his mind.
 
It sort of works. He lost Deb but he's also lost Rita, Harry, his brother and mother. He's lost a lot but he hasn't lost Harrison or Hannah yet. That's where this gets iffy. After all he's been through he chose to do this. It was chosen, not forced. It means he can choose to leave it too and find them in the future if he changes his mind.

I do think the loss of Deb is way more devastating to him, but yeah. It's a choice. And they do leave themselves a wee bit of wiggle room if they ever wanted to do a movie or something.

I would kind of like that honestly. It's just such a pitch black ending. I feel a little duped for being made to root for Dexter this whole time. One on hand, it does feel right but on the other...damn. It's just so sad! It'd be like if Breaking Bad ended after Ozymandias. (I'm not comparing the quality of the shows, nobody jump on me!)
 
I buy the self imposed punishment but to think he finds happiness later with Harrison and Hannah sounds terrible. Would ruin what impact this ending had.
 
That's why I thought the finale was flawed. It leaves him choice. As it is, he's a lumberjack. What happens if they decide to do a movie or to pick up the story in a mini series a few years from now? There's still connections to his humanity wandering around.
 
His ending would have been okay but expected in one form or another. At least this way it's different than almost anyone would have guessed.
 
I buy the self imposed punishment but to think he finds happiness later with Harrison and Hannah sounds terrible. Would ruin what impact this ending had.

That's why I thought the finale was flawed. It leaves him choice. As it is, he's a lumberjack. What happens if they decide to do a movie or to pick up the story in a mini series a few years from now? There's still connections to his humanity wandering around.

I agree with you both. Objectively I know the story should end where it did and not continue at all in any way. The ending just left me so gutted that I'd love to think that somehow, someway there's still hope for Dexter. I guess maybe that's the point.
 

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