Discussion: Gay Rights II

[Schlosser85]

I don't really care what a has-bin actor who cites the lack of the existence of a "crocoduck" as evidence against evolution has to say about my right to get married. I just find it annoying that he is pompous enough to think he has the right to order me not to. Mind your own business, Kirk.

 

[StorminNorman]

Growing Pains!

 

[StorminNorman]

What's Fred Savage's thoughts on Gay Marriage?

"It's Cool"

Well there you have it.

 

[BlackLantern]

I don't really care what a has-bin actor who cites the lack of the existence of a "crocoduck" as evidence against evolution has to say about my right to get married. I just find it annoying that he is pompous enough to think he has the right to order me not to. Mind your own business, Kirk.

granted he's a bit crazy...but Shatner is hardly a has been, he's won two emmys recently and just wrapped up a hit show....

 

[Carcharodon]

granted he's a bit crazy...but Shatner is hardly a has been, he's won two emmys recently and just wrapped up a hit show....

Who the **** said anything about Shatner?

 

[Ion Kenshin]

Who the **** said anything about Shatner?

either he is making a joke to reference Kirk with Star Trek or he really thinks you meant Captain Kirk....not sure tho

 

[Carcharodon]

either he is making a joke to reference Kirk with Star Trek or he really thinks you meant Captain Kirk....not sure tho

I never said anything about Kirk Cameron OR Shatner.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

I never said anything about Kirk Cameron OR Shatner.

he didnt quote you he quoted Schlosser

 

[BlackLantern]

my mistake...I thought he was talking about Shatner and just referred to him as 'Kirk'....Ive seen some of Kirk Camerons Jesus talk....he's earnest about it

 

[Carcharodon]

he didnt quote you he quoted Schlosser

Yeah, I know. That's why this post...

either he is making a joke to reference Kirk with Star Trek or he really thinks you meant Captain Kirk....not sure tho

...didn't make any sense.

 

[Carcharodon]

my mistake...I thought he was talking about Shatner and just referred to him as 'Kirk'....Ive seen some of Kirk Camerons Jesus talk....he's earnest about it

Don't let it happen again.

 

[BlackLantern]

Don't let it happen again.

Don't make me get Roy Scheider in here

 

[Carcharodon]

Don't make me get Roy Scheider in here

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Agreed. During the Civil Rights Movement who had more success? Dr.King's coalition or the Black Panthers? Social change cannot be forced down people's throats. Especially when it is something that most people cannot understand. Most people cannot relate to homosexuality. It is that simple. Thus you have to ease them into it. Not tell them, "Accept us or you're a bigot!"

to be fair... we have been fighting for our rights heavily for about 50 years... its been an on going battle for quite a while. you can't look at each "right" we are asking for as an individual movement. its been one big movement all along. and we've actually been going pretty damn slow at it. we first started with public safety, then careers, housing, children, unity, equality and now marriage. it's been a relatively slow battle, most people are just ignorant to it.

I really suggest people see MILK, it was an extremely relevant movie and had alot of modern day undertones that we are still facing today.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I never understood the mistreatment of anyone, sure if you don't understand it and it weird you out thats fine, but to deny someone rights is just cruel and disgusting.

I think that some "conservative" people might view this "push" as an attack of their way of life and this will probably escalate drastically.

republicans and conservatives tend to think any "change" is an attack

 

[spideyboy_1111]

on a side note. i was just talking to a friend of mine, who is a twin, and he and his brother are both gay and use to work at a franchised ice cream chain, here in ohio. Well, when he was promoted to one of the 2 supervisors the other supervisor, a female, would consistently talk bad about him for being gay and "disgusting" to the people he was the boss of. Well his workers told him about it, and he went to the manager... the manager said "o i didn't know you were gay, you can't be "out" at work..." and that he couldn't do anything about it. so my friend quit, called the main heads of the franchises and they said they couldn't do anything about it due to the fact the ice cream place was a franchise. A few weeks later they found enough "reason" to apparently fire his gay twin too.

 

[The Senator]

BILL O'REILLY AND KIRK CAMERON DISCUSS GAY MARRIAGE
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:facepalm

Nearly six and a half minutes of your life you'll never get back.

It surprises me that few Christians realize that Kirk Cameron is only lobbying on the behalf of the great Jebus because he can't make money elsewhere.

 

[StorminNorman]

I see no reason to assume Cameron is not a believer.

 

[BlackLantern]

He is pretty earnest about it....apparently he goes and and does "witnessing" at random times

 

[spideyboy_1111]

i don't think jman implied kirk wasn't a believer.. just that he's using his belief as a way to stay in public eye... (if one would call it that)

 

[BlackLantern]

I'm not sure....I think he's using whatever notoriety he had to spread the word....he seems to be big on people going out and spreading the "Word"

 

[spideyboy_1111]

unfortunately Christians use the word "spread" but what they really do is "push".

 

[BlackLantern]

I have an issue with any faith that actively "recruits"....Hindus don't recruit, if you want to be a Hindu fine, if you don't that's fine too

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I have an issue with any faith that actively "recruits"....Hindus don't recruit, if you want to be a Hindu fine, if you don't that's fine too

agrees, Christianity has been around for hundreds of years, the word is out there, if people want to be a Christian, they will be a Christian. do not force your religion upon me. Jesus wanted his message spread, and it was. But i don't think he wanted it to be a "recruitment" i was watching something on xmas, randomly on the 700 club about a non religious man who didnt go to church with the rest of his family. But he befriended a pastor who be came his best friend. they never talked about religion, and the pastor did not pressure him. but when his friend needed help he wasn't afraid to give religious advice. This eventually enlightened the man to go to church and "accept god" in his life. This i believe is how christians should spread there word... not actively force or recruit. just open up there ideals to people who may need guidance in there life, when showing signs of it. Not those who are just walking down the street and simply want to go to where there going and not get hassled by a "recruiter" on the street, or be able to live peacefully in there home without a door to door mormon showing up, or a villager in a third world country enjoying there old practices...

i'm fine with missionaries traveling to the poor areas and helping them out, they do alot of good an amazing things for those people, but i don't feel like it should ever come off as a wolf in sheeps clothing. they should not be pressing there religion on those people while helping them. it's like saying "look at us nice Christians and how were able to help you out because it's gods will for us to.. u should join us because were helping you" and that just doesnt sit well with me.

 

[Bathead]

Kirk Cameron? You mean Bibleman? Honestly, I'm not mocking his beliefs when I say this, but he's an idiot.