Discussion: Racism

[Lighthouse]

But if your behaving yourself and not drawing attention to yourself you have nothing to worry about. Ive seen in many areas where cops ussually walk up to someone whos causing a scene in some matter. I have never seen a cop just walk up to someone and slam them on the ground out of nowhere. Ive been to cherry hill, brooklyn and west baltimore mind you on multiple occasions.

You need to understand that this statement and the use of anecdotal evidence to back it up is the very definition of privilege. And police harassment does not always come in the form of "out of nowhere" physical violence. It's why "stop and frisk" is so discriminatory.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It is Supernova people. He has made his thoughts on race relations quite clear. Don't expect him to change his mind.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Blaming rap for some sort of moral decay reminds me of the stories I have heard about rock and roll destroying the youth of the 50s and 60s. In other words, it is as ridiculous as it sounds.

 

[Supernova]

Oh no...no...no.

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[BlueLanternKal]

six cops walked up and just beat you? What happened? the entire
Situation if you wouldnt mind. If it is traumatizing to recapture you dont have to share and I wont keep asking.

Nah, it used to bother me, but I'm over it.

I was pulled over for "speeding" which I maintain is lie to this day because my aunt who's in her late 50's (and for context also black) was in the passenger seat (I don't speed with anyone else in the car let alone an elder).

I had just moved from FL to MA and hadn't had time to swap my license over. Also for context I had just left the military not too long before this and hadn't had enough time to re-adjust to civilian life.

I was pulled over. I was respectful. Gave the dude my all my documents. But for whatever reason he was taking too long. A SUV and another car pulls up with 5 other officers. He tells me that my license is expired and that he had to book me. Fine whatever. But my aunt doesn't speak English or drive. The officer starts going through her permission to get money for a cab without her permission while I try to explain the situation to him. This is in MA in February so it's one of the coldest days of the year. They wanted to impound the car, book me, and to leave my aunt who is handicapped with a cane, in the middle of the snow, with no English, money, or a phone.

I lost my **** and got belligerent because they were ignoring me. That's when they startedbbeati the shot out of me.

I kept yelling that I didn't care about myself, that I was a veteran, they'd have to kill me before adandoning my aunt at the side of the road.

The oldest cop there told two young guys to take my aunt home while they took me to the PD.

To say I don't like cops in general is an understatment. But I know they're justndoing their "jobs". It's thenabusw of power and how they go about it that bothers me to this day. These men and women need to be held to higher standards if they're going to be enforcing the law.

 

[Supernova]

It is Supernova people. He has made his thoughts on race relations quite clear. Don't expect him to change his mind.

How so? Pointing out a part of the machine? Stressing common sense?

 

[Supernova]

Blaming rap for some sort of moral decay reminds me of the stories I have heard about rock and roll destroying the youth of the 50s and 60s. In other words, it is as ridiculous as it sounds.

I didnt know elvis used racist words

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The idea that cops don't racial profile is well, just false:

http://gawker.com/heres-audio-of-what-sounds-like-an-nypd-captain-pressur-1783544682

This is exactly why being a minority can get you harassed no matter what you do.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

How so? Pointing out a part of the machine? Stressing common sense?

Telling black people to act right to "behave" reeks of defenses for horrible treatment of black people during the Civil Rights Movement.

 

[Supernova]

The idea that cops don't racial profile is well, just false:

http://gawker.com/heres-audio-of-what-sounds-like-an-nypd-captain-pressur-1783544682

This is exactly why being a minority can get you harassed no matter what you do.

Of all sites you use the one that hulk hogan and his sex tape took out?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I didnt know elvis used racist words

No he just started making women loose by shaking his hips.

I love that you get to tell people the art they are allowed to create. As if art should be policed.Yeah, if there is anyone promoting racism it s Kendrick Lamar.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Of all sites you use the one that hulk hogan and his sex tape took out?

Well, they are the ones who posted the audio. Does this suddenly make the audio false? We call this deflection. Avoiding the messager by attacking the message.

If you actually read the article, you would see links to coverage of the story by the New York Daily News like this one:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/nypd-admits-quotas-summons-article-1.2488316

But I know that is asking too much of you.

 

[Supernova]

Telling black people to act right to "behave" reeks of defenses for horrible treatment of black people during the Civil Rights Movement.

Telling adults to behave and set examples for youth is the same as a time when blacks had there own bathroom and rosa parks was told to scoot over?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Telling adults to behave and set examples for youth is the same as a time when blacks had there own bathroom and rosa parks was told to scoot over?

Yes, as we watch people continually tell them they should be happy with what they have and not complain about the murder rate of minorities. Racist invoking MLK who have clearly not read anything he wrote or said. But hey, they are destroying America by practicing their Constitutional Rights, like the ability to peacefully assemble and speak their minds.

 

[Supernova]

Well, they are the ones who posted the audio. Does this suddenly make the audio false? We call this deflection. Avoiding the messager by attacking the message.

If you actually read the article, you would see links to coverage of the story by the New York Daily News like this one:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/nypd-admits-quotas-summons-article-1.2488316

But I know that is asking too much of you.

And one cops claim suddenly refelects every cops mindset? Does one black criminal represent every black man?

 

[Lighthouse]

Telling black people to act right to "behave" reeks of defenses for horrible treatment of black people during the Civil Rights Movement.

Telling adults to behave and set examples for youth is the same as a time when blacks had there own bathroom and rosa parks was told to scoot over?

 

[Supernova]

Yes, as we watch people continually tell them they should be happy with what they have and not complain about the murder rate of minorities. Racist invoking MLK who have clearly not read anything he wrote or said. But hey, they are destroying America by practicing their Constitutional Rights, like the ability to peacefully assemble and speak their minds.

Peacefully like here in baltimore? On national tv behaving like wild Animals? Doing exactly what the media wanted to keep the perception going?

 

[Supernova]

No he just started making women loose by shaking his hips.

I love that you get to tell people the art they are allowed to create. As if art should be policed.Yeah, if there is anyone promoting racism it s Kendrick Lamar.

But if you want racisim gone it has to be gone in all areas not just some because **** its art

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And one cops claim suddenly refelects every cops mindset? Does one black criminal represent every black man?

This was a commanding officer and a lieutenant telling one of their officers he is doing it wrong, which means they give the officers the brief. They are in charge and they telling their officers to racially profile, and if they don't, they are punished. They have it on tape.

How does that boil down to one cop?

Oh and the delicious irony of the bold bit:

Peacefully like here in baltimore? On national tv behaving like wild Animals?

So the vast majority peacefully protest, but now you are claiming they are animals because a minority act a fool?

Also have you ever in your life actually spent like one day in class studying the history of black people in the US? Because dehumanizing them by calling them animals is classic racism.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

But if you want racisim gone it has to be gone in all areas not just some because **** its art

Yes, because expressions of ones feelings on being treated differently because of their race is exactly the kind of expression that should be done away with. Let's ignore history, do away with it, so we can continue with the subversive racism far too many people are okay with. You know why the N word is bad? It isn't because someone used it as a rap lyric.

God, the logic is so bad here. It would be like saying you would solve rape by keeping it out of films and letting people sing about their experience with it.

 

[Supernova]

This was a commanding officer and a lieutenant telling one of their officers he is doing it wrong, which means they give the officers the brief. They are in charge and they telling their officers to racially profile, and if you don't, you are punished.

How does that boil down to one cop?

Oh and the delicious irony of the bold bit:


So the vast majority peacefully protest, but now you are claiming they are animals because a minority act a fool?

Also have you ever in your life actually spent like one day in class studying the history of black people in the US? Because dehumanizing them by calling them animals is classic racism.

Oh ok so two officers represent the entire police force? Despite rank?


Behaving like an animal despite your skin color wont change the fact you acted like an animal and playing the race card like you just did to try to win the argument is a slap in the face to the very term.

White people have acted like animals too and i said the same thing.

 

[NotNickFury]

It is a shame that even the greatest country in the world, the United States of America, can not eliminate racism.
We are We are suppose to be the model society the whole world wants to emulate.
We are the blueprint for many races to live side by side in harmony.

If we can not have success here how can that message of racial harmony ever grow and spread to the middle east? spread worldwide?

Paraphrasing Dr. King.......don't worry about your neighbors skin color, worry about yours & his character.

That's looking at America through rose-tinted glasses, and this nation is just not what it believes it is, regardless of who we elected President or how far we like to believe we've come. Forms of discrimination have just become more subtle. I refer to a quote from "Ghosts of Mississippi:" This country may be legally integrated, but emotionally, we will always be segregated.

 

[Supernova]

Yes, because expressions of ones feelings on being treated differently because of their race is exactly the kind of expression that should be done away with. Let's ignore history, do away with it, so we can continue with the subversive racism far too many people are okay with. You know why the N word is bad? It isn't because someone used it as a rap lyric.

God, the logic is so bad here. It would be like saying you would solve rape by keeping it out of films and letting people sing about.

Im confused your now bringing rape into this as an example? If you want racism gone stop saying racist words and ill call that man over there by his first name and hell call me by mine and well go from there. We wont know each other by our race but as by our names.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Oh ok so two officers represent the entire police force? Despite rank?


Behaving like an animal despite your skin color wont change the fact you acted like an animal and playing the race card like you just did to try to win the argument is a slap in the face to the very term.

White people have acted like animals too and i said the same thing.

Is critical thinking an issue for you? Is English not your first language?

They are the ones in charge. They keep officers in place who go along with their racial profiling and if the don't they are given crap shifts, are written up for BS and are demoted. That means those in charge enforce racial profiling and thus others are forced to carry it out. How is that not clear to you?

No, a slap in the face is not understanding any sort of common decency and understanding of context. You know, like when Fox News loves to call black people thugs. Your lack of knowledge would be startling, but its you so yeah.

 

[Supernova]

Is critical thinking an issue for you? Is English not your first language?

They are the ones in charge. They keep officers in place who go along with their racial profiling and if the don't they are given crap shifts, are written up for BS and are demoted.

No, a slap in the face is not understanding any sort of common decency and understanding of context. You know, like when Fox News loves to call black people thugs. Your lack of knowledge would be startling, but its you so yeah.

Says the one whos first sentence was an attempt to belittle someones intelligence