Disney in talks to buy Fox: X-Men Homecoming? - Part 1

[Dark Raven]

That was the very first leaked image.

And when it came out, we had a bunch of Fox sycophants in here telling us how good it looked.

Every little detail that was different and every similarity it had to a piece of turd or a crash test dummy they just kept saying liked this take on Doom or how interesting and refreshing it was. As if there was something wrong with classic Doom and he needed to be improved upon in this way.

 

[Iceman]

Every little detail that was different and every similarity it had to a piece of turd or a crash test dummy they just kept saying liked this take on Doom or how interesting and refreshing it was. As if there was something wrong with classic Doom and he needed to be improved upon in this way.

Marvel should have taken inspiration from this and introduced some trashcan storylines into Doom F4 issues.

 

[Boom]

You could adapt Doom's costume straight from the comics and it'd work wonderfully on-screen. Iron Man meets Medieval Overlord. Love it.

 

[Big Bang]

That was the very first leaked image.

And when it came out, we had a bunch of Fox sycophants in here telling us how good it looked.

and how much they looked forward to the X-Men/Fantastic Four cross over.

 

[Big Bang]

Every little detail that was different and every similarity it had to a piece of turd or a crash test dummy they just kept saying liked this take on Doom or how interesting and refreshing it was. As if there was something wrong with classic Doom and he needed to be improved upon in this way.

 

[Flint Marko]

and how much they looked forward to the X-Men/Fantastic Four cross over.

It still depresses me that anyone actually looked forward to that.

 

[ADollarADay]

As I previously mentioned, Fox's RSN is part of this deal should it close.

Fox's RSN is mighty impressive. That is THE prize of the deal, not the nerdy **** you guys keep focusing on :P. This might get a much closer look from the SEC and DOJ than anything else and is probably what's driving up the acquisition cost significantly. YES network by itself is worth billions, maybe in the tens realm.

FOX RSN Sports Properties
FOX Sports Arizona Arizona Diamondbacks, Phoenix Suns, Arizona Coyotes , Phoenix Mercury, Arizona State Sun Devils, other Pac-12 Conference content
FOX Sports Carolinas Charlotte Hornets, Carolina Hurricanes, Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) and Southeastern Conferences (SEC) content
FOX Sports Detroit Detroit Tigers, Detroit Pistons, Detroit Red Wings, and state college and high school sports.
FOX Sports Florida Orlando Magic, Florida Panthers, Miami Marlins, coverage of college sports events from the Big East, Big 12, Conference USA and Atlantic Coast Conferences.
Fox Sports Indiana Indiana Pacers, Indiana Fever
FOX Sports Kansas City Kansas City Royals, Kansas Jayhawks, Kansas State Wildcats, other colligate content from the Big 12 Conference, and Missouri Valley Conference
Fox Sports Midwest St. Louis Cardinals, St. Louis Blues, colligate content from the Missouri Valley Conference, St. Louis Billikens and SIUE Cougars, as well as the Nebraska Cornhuskers
FOX Sports New Orleans Colligate games from Big 12 Conference and Southeastern Conference, select Tulane Green Wave college football games
Fox Sports North Minnesota Twins, Minnesota Timberwolves, Minnesota Wild, colligate content from the Minnesota Golden Gophers, Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs, Minnesota State Mavericks, St. Cloud State Huskies, the UND Fighting Sioux, as well as college hockey games from the Western Collegiate Hockey Association.
Fox Sports Ohio Cleveland Cavaliers, Cincinnati Reds, Columbus Blue Jackets, AHL's Cleveland Monsters. Colligate content includes Xavier Musketeers and the Cincinnati Bearcats .
Fox Sports Oklahoma Colligate content includes Oklahoma Sooners and the Oklahoma State Cowboys
Fox Sports San Diego San Diego Padres, Los Angeles Clippers, Anaheim Ducks, Los Angeles King
FOX Sports South Atlanta Braves, Atlanta Hawks, Charlotte Hornets, Memphis Grizzlies, Atlanta Dream, Carolina Hurricanes, Nashville Predators, Atlanta United FC, Collegiate sports content from the ACC.
FOX Sports Southeast Includes FOX Sports South content, they hold exclusive regional rights to NHL games from the Carolina Hurricanes and Nashville Predators as well as collegiate sports events from the University of Tennessee
Fox Sports Southwest Dallas Mavericks, San Antonio Spurs, San Antonio Stars, Dallas Stars, Texas Rangers. In addition, the channel also provides regional coverage of collegiate content from Big 12 Conference and Conference USA, rights to the University Interscholastic League
FOX Sports Sun Miami Heat, Tampa Bay Lightning, Tampa Bay Rays. Colligate content from the Florida State University
FOX Sports Tennessee Memphis Grizzlies, Nashville Predators. Colligate content from the Southeast Conference.
FOX Sports West Anaheim Ducks, Los Angeles Angels, Los Angeles Clippers, Los Angeles Kings. Colligate content from Big West Conference, West Coast Conference
Fox Sports Wisconsin Milwaukie Brewers, Milwaukie Bucks. For colligate content Wisconsin Interscholastic Athletic Association (WIAA); also airs NCAA competitions from the Big East Conference, Big Ten Conference and the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
FOX Sports Prime Ticket Ostensibly mirrors FOX Sports West
SportsTime Ohio Cleveland Indians, Cleveland Browns.
YES Network New York Yankees, Brooklyn Nets, New York City FC. Select telecasts of the Yankees' minor league farm teams, primarily the Class-A (short season) Staten Island Yankees of the New York–Penn League.Colligate content includes Ivy League.

After Fox's RSN, the main prize, to me is Star TV, with great reach in India, China, and Southeast Asia.
Number 3, I would say would be 39% of Sky with the possibility of acquiring 100%. If the deal includes Fox's bid for the remaining shares it doesn't own of Sky (i.e. the acquisition prize includes the ~16B bid from Fox) then this may be 2b tied with Star TV in my book
Number 4 would be Hulu 30% - TWX acquired 10% of Hulu last year for ~580MM, giving it a 5.8B valuation. Some companies have it valued as much as 25B. I think Hulu has been mismanaged and with an aggressive marketing campaign, global rollout, and more content, it could be huge and a huge acquisition target, giving Disney a 1-2 punch in the VOD streaming realm to go along with Disneyflix AND a 1-2 punch to go along with ESPN+ on live tv VOD
Number 5 would be FX, FXX . Disney lacks presence in the highly profitable cable channel realm. This would solve it.
Number 6 would be legacy movies and tv shows that they have produced
Number 7 would be things nerds on the internet are arguing about, movie rights and whatnot. I would rank Avatar as the most desirable of the franchises available (if it includes production/co production rights).

This deal is starting to look like a steal, especially if it's in treasury stock.

 

[Mad Ones]

I did read your post and was simply asking for clarification. I see now that you edited it right when I clicked quote.

I didn't talk about emotional connection before or after the edit.

It was certainly a punch in the gut for fans of those characters, or better yet, fans looking forward to seeing them.

I guess the MCU can't do every character justice. The emotions come from what you brought to the movie, not from the movie itself.

I have no idea nor honestly care what they think but am speaking from my own experience as a movie goer. I count too. And if we're running a poll why is this burden on me? Have you conducted a survey already to speak so authoritatively?

I am not discounting your experience. A lot us fans here care about things that people who aren't fans don't care about. We were talking about the film and the effects of the film and the work the film does with its characters. I don't see Marvel putting the work to get people to care about the Warriors and I see that reflected in the parts of the movie people actually talk about (outside of SHH).

 

[Flint Marko]

I didn't talk about emotional connection before or after the edit.

I never said you did. Here's how that conversation played before you edited your post:

But audiences had connection to VFX props Blink, Warpath, Sunspot, Colossus and Bishop?

Yes.

 

[Mad Ones]

I never said you did. Here's how that conversation played before you edited your post:

Ah. I actually didn't mean to say "yes" to Frankeh's first question, I meant that I agreed with the rest of the post. But I can definitely see that it looks like I am saying yes I think audiences had an emotional connection (not my intention). Sorry about that, my bad!

 

[Flint Marko]

Ah. I actually didn't mean to say "yes" to Frankeh's first question, I meant that I agreemed with the rest of the post. But I can definitely see that it looks like I am saying yes I think audiences had an emotional connection (not my intention). Sorry about that, my bad!

No worries

 

[psylockolussus]

I can't wait for the announcement!!!

 

[Big Bang]

As I previously mentioned, Fox's RSN is part of this deal should it close.

Fox's RSN is mighty impressive. That is THE prize of the deal, not the nerdy **** you guys keep focusing on :P. This might get a much closer look from the SEC and DOJ than anything else and is probably what's driving up the acquisition cost significantly. YES network by itself is worth billions, maybe in the tens realm.


This deal is starting to look like a steal, especially if it's in treasury stock.

The whole RSN piece I had to ponder for a bit. Once I saw just far reaching that it was, that had ESPN written all over it. They are going for broke growing ESPN into a juggernaut. They are going to have to do more than just grow the network side. One major problem they are going to have to be equally aggressive in is fixing the brand problems ESPN currently has. Nothing they do will matter if they cannot retain or grow their subscriber base.

 

[Web-Head]

ESPN and Fox Sports? No thanks to that

 

[Big Bang]

ESPN and Fox Sports? No thanks to that

Not Fox Sports proper, the local affiliates that Fox owns for sports throughout the country.

 

[Raiden]

and how much they looked forward to the X-Men/Fantastic Four cross over.

This was Fox's dream of a cinematic universe. Personally, I'm glad it never came to fruition. Now Marvel Studios will get to put their own stamp to the X-Men world.

 

[Web-Head]

Not Fox Sports proper, the local affiliates that Fox owns for sports throughout the country.

Still not a huge fan of that. I'm really happy about having all the characters available in the MCU, but I'm still on the fence about Disney buying all of Fox.

 

[psylockolussus]

Interesting how Olivia Munn was included in that photoshoot yet none of the newbies from.Apocalypse (who attended the Comic Con that year) weren't. Then in the film, she had 4 lines.

 

[Raiden]

As I previously mentioned, Fox's RSN is part of this deal should it close.

Fox's RSN is mighty impressive. That is THE prize of the deal, not the nerdy **** you guys keep focusing on :P. This might get a much closer look from the SEC and DOJ than anything else and is probably what's driving up the acquisition cost significantly. YES network by itself is worth billions, maybe in the tens realm.



After Fox's RSN, the main prize, to me is Star TV, with great reach in India, China, and Southeast Asia.
Number 3, I would say would be 39% of Sky with the possibility of acquiring 100%. If the deal includes Fox's bid for the remaining shares it doesn't own of Sky (i.e. the acquisition prize includes the ~16B bid from Fox) then this may be 2b tied with Star TV in my book
Number 4 would be Hulu 30% - TWX acquired 10% of Hulu last year for ~580MM, giving it a 5.8B valuation. Some companies have it valued as much as 25B. I think Hulu has been mismanaged and with an aggressive marketing campaign, global rollout, and more content, it could be huge and a huge acquisition target, giving Disney a 1-2 punch in the VOD streaming realm to go along with Disneyflix AND a 1-2 punch to go along with ESPN+ on live tv VOD
Number 5 would be FX, FXX . Disney lacks presence in the highly profitable cable channel realm. This would solve it.
Number 6 would be legacy movies and tv shows that they have produced
Number 7 would be things nerds on the internet are arguing about, movie rights and whatnot. I would rank Avatar as the most desirable of the franchises available (if it includes production/co production rights).

This deal is starting to look like a steal, especially if it's in treasury stock.

I thought Disney was only interested in acquiring Fox's movies and TV division? Adding RSN to ESPN is going to be tremendous, and really eliminate their closest competitor even if Fox Sports One continues.

 

[Big Bang]

Still not a huge fan of that. I'm really happy about having all the characters available in the MCU, but I'm still on the fence about Disney buying all of Fox.

There is bits and pieces of this potential deal I can see being challenged in one form or another. Some are saying that Comcast may still be involved in a final deal. Curious to see how that turns out.

I completely understand your sentiments in that matter, and in many ways I concur.

 

[psylockolussus]

and how much they looked forward to the X-Men/Fantastic Four cross over.

A X-Men and Fantastic Four cross over could have been fine if they knew what they were doing. A little more imagination to bring those two superhero isn't that impossible.

Interesting, that F4 cast were done in 2015, then Oscar's character was killed in 2016, then Hugh retired the role in 2017. Then next year, the fc cast would be done. Leaving only Reynolds while Channing have yet to appear in a film.

 

[Big Bang]

I thought Disney was only interested in acquiring Fox's movies and TV division? Adding RSN to ESPN is going to be tremendous, and really eliminate their closest competitor even if Fox Sports One continues.

It is an interesting development. It does raise questions regarding Fox Sports One's future.

 

[ADollarADay]

The whole RSN piece I had to ponder for a bit. Once I saw just far reaching that it was, that had ESPN written all over it. They are going for broke growing ESPN into a juggernaut. They are going to have to do more than just grow the network side. One major problem they are going to have to be equally aggressive in is fixing the brand problems ESPN currently has. Nothing they do will matter if they cannot retain or grow their subscriber base.

Agreed. They are finally seeing the writing on the wall with ESPN and are going for broke to fix it. They are probably very confident in the ESPN+ app as well.

Their image problem is a big one too. I don't want to get political here, and neither should ESPN, but yet they do it all the time. They have lost a lot of people because of their political agenda. This is a much harder fix that will take significantly longer. Just show sports.

Still not a huge fan of that. I'm really happy about having all the characters available in the MCU, but I'm still on the fence about Disney buying all of Fox.

They are not buying all of Fox. Your concerns about them buying Fox's RSN is valid and it will be scrutinized by the DOJ. That will still probably pass though.

There is bits and pieces of this potential deal I can see being challenged in one form or another. Some are saying that Comcast may still be involved in a final deal. Curious to see how that turns out.

I completely understand your sentiments in that matter, and in many ways I concur.

Comcast (and Sony) being possibly involved in the final deal is a good thing and it could help us get our nerdy wishes of Marvel having all the rights it gave away in the 90s 100% back in house.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

pretty sure I read way back that Fox wasn't allowed to do an X-Men/F4 crossover film without marvel's permission

 

[kguillou]

I gotta say, as someone who grew up in the 90's where Spider-man and the X-Men were all the talk of the town, it will be euphoric to now have the possibility of seeing these heavy weights share the screen together. Marvel Studios has done an astonishing job of making B and C list characters A listers so they never needed these guys, but the Marvel Universe just would never have felt whole without Spider-man,the Xmen and the Fantastic Four, each of them pillars of the Marvel brand.