Joeyjojo72
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Theres no longer a stigma to tv. And for many actors its actually a step up - in pay and prestige. Especially cable tv. Its all interchangeable now.
my question to you though.. is that.. Luke Cage can't support his own comic... and I really have doubts on him selling a film. How do you think he can carry a show?
I mean.. the whole "protect my neighborhood home" angle is cliche and been done to death, and Luke's never really had a good set of villains..
In fact the only great story imo from him was with Purple Man
Hell the entire cast of Friends make more with their syndication pay than their film roles.
Being able to support your own comic doesn't mean that you can't support a movie. After all, Blade has never been a successful solo comic series, and yet his movies did over $100 million. For much of his history Iron Man has only been able to sustain one comic title with poor sales, and yet he's Marvel's biggest seller, and his movies have done far better than Superman Returns, which features a character who for years starred in FOUR separate solo titles. Point is, comic sales don't always translate to film sales. Not only is the audience different, but the comic audience is so abysmally small that you can't use that as a measure of what would or wouldn't be popular to the general audience.
It certainly was for Charlie Sheen. I think he's made more money off of Two and a Half Men then he ever could've made from a film career making movies at $20 million a pop. He was making about $2 million per episode on 24 episode seasons. That's $48 million a year, far more money at a faster clip than he could've ever earned in a movie career.
Even his successor, Ashton Kutcher, is making $800,000 per episode. So he'll be pulling down $19.2 million a year from that show. That's not bad at all.
Being able to support your own comic doesn't mean that you can't support a movie. After all, Blade has never been a successful solo comic series, and yet his movies did over $100 million. For much of his history Iron Man has only been able to sustain one comic title with poor sales, and yet he's Marvel's biggest seller, and his movies have done far better than Superman Returns, which features a character who for years starred in FOUR separate solo titles. Point is, comic sales don't always translate to film sales. Not only is the audience different, but the comic audience is so abysmally small that you can't use that as a measure of what would or wouldn't be popular to the general audience.
The whole Iron Man concept appeals to the modern working man and woman. It's what every 20 or 30-something would dream of in terms of success, power, fame, sex appeal. If there ever were a real superhero in real life, Tony Stark's whole lifestyle would definitely be the most appealing. He gets to drive fast cars, travel to exotic locations, bed beautiful women, play with fancy gadgets, be financially successful. That's even the sort of thing women tend to want.
Is there really any other superhero whose lifestyle others would really want in real life?
- Spider-Man: often branded a villain, usually down on his luck and filled with angst and other burdens.
- Hulk: lots of anger issues, on the run, often difficulty controlling transformations, often branded a monster.
- Superman: feels isolated as an alien, can't be honest about who he really is, must always control his strength
- Batman: deep psychological issues, also can't be open about himself
- Captain America: a man out of time, burdened with obligation and duty
The list goes on.
People are already aspiring to be like Tony Stark most of the time anyway, whether they've even heard of him or not. And that's the kind of successful alpha male that women seem to like. So it's easy to see why the whole concept is so appealing, especially when you add the RDJ factor who embodies all of that.
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EDIT:That's the one I originally wanted Nice catch!! t:
The whole Iron Man concept appeals to the modern working man and woman. It's what every 20 or 30-something would dream of in terms of success, power, fame, sex appeal. If there ever were a real superhero in real life, Tony Stark's whole lifestyle would definitely be the most appealing. He gets to drive fast cars, travel to exotic locations, bed beautiful women, play with fancy gadgets, be financially successful. That's even the sort of thing women tend to want.
Is there really any other superhero whose lifestyle others would really want in real life?
- Spider-Man: often branded a villain, usually down on his luck and filled with angst and other burdens.
- Hulk: lots of anger issues, on the run, often difficulty controlling transformations, often branded a monster.
- Superman: feels isolated as an alien, can't be honest about who he really is, must always control his strength
- Batman: deep psychological issues, also can't be open about himself
- Captain America: a man out of time, burdened with obligation and duty
The list goes on.
People are already aspiring to be like Tony Stark most of the time anyway, whether they've even heard of him or not. And that's the kind of successful alpha male that women seem to like. So it's easy to see why the whole concept is so appealing, especially when you add the RDJ factor who embodies all of that.
Theres no longer a stigma to tv. And for many actors its actually a step up - in pay and prestige. Especially cable tv. Its all interchangeable now.
Don't know - comic geeks tends to despise Tony Stark, which translate to a middling comic sales. They seem to resent Stark's obvious arrogant, can do it alone attitude. In the mean time Dr Doom is almost a mirror to Iron Man's accomplishment spiced up with evil deeds here and there (he's after all is created to be a villainous character), and Victor von Doom often got more respect than Tony Stark. Strange comic geeks. Got to be the mustache factor. Or comic geeks are really technophobes.
I'm not talking about comic geeks. I'm talking about your everyday working modern man and woman, to whom the Iron Man movie and concept appeals greatly, because that is already the kind of lifestyle to which they aspire. What are most working professionals working towards? Sure, some might be more altruistic and working for a greater good, but most just want lots of money, fast cars, hot women (or men if they're women), sex, drink, fancy gadgets, lots of fun etc. Now which superhero does that sound like?
The whole Iron Man concept hasn't just appealed to comic geeks, who only represent a small part of the audience. Why Iron Man has been so popular is because he transcends beyond just comic geekdom and into genuine coolness.
T"Challa;24039719 said:Yeah, this has Heroes for Hire written all over it..ah well, sign up Scott Adkins and Michael Jai White and lets get this thing going.