Doctor Who - Not a Hugging Type of Thread - Part 19

[vanson]

this is the most hilarious thing ^^ ( and its not even all the oscars they have won Oo)

 

[TheComicbookKid]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/11...ntertainment-bbc-peter-capaldi-alex-kingston/


The Husbands of River Song is the title of the Christmas special.

 

[chamber-music]

Capaldi with his one academy award is probably a loser to Peter Jackson

 

[SelinaKitten]

Great episode. When I realized what was happening at the end, I was like . I thought last season wasn't as good as the ones before, but this season has been fantastic so far and they've really given Capaldi great material to work with. Can't wait for the finale!

I thought last season had a few weaker episodes but I did truly love Deep Breath, Into the Dalek, Listen, Mummy on the Orient Express and the finale

And Time Heist was a fun little adventure and gave us Clara Oswald in a suit so

But I would really agree that Capaldi's second season has given him better stories than his first, I think the fact that most of them have been two partners has helped there

 

[Jason Kane]

Probably gonna throw this theory out there for old time sake but what if Ashildr is [BLACKOUT]Rassilon [/BLACKOUT]?

 

[Sithborg]

That was a cute finale. Chameleon circuits must be very finicky.

Do like the new screwdiver.

 

[Steelsheen]

Clara and Ashildr's Excellent Adventures

this is gonna be one of those eps where you need to see it multiple times to understand and appreciate it all.

btw... im still processing it all but.... so the Doctor forgot about Clara then? ot at least, is left with fuzzy memories?

 

[Pink Ranger]

Clara and Ashildr's Excellent Adventures

When they make enough money to start franchising, they're going to open a second restaurant at the end of the universe.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Moffat should have dropped the mic on that one. That is how you send a companion off. He has nailed it twice, but this was truly something else.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Clara and Ashildr's Excellent Adventures

this is gonna be one of those eps where you need to see it multiple times to understand and appreciate it all.

btw... im still processing it all but.... so the Doctor forgot about Clara then? ot at least, is left with fuzzy memories?

Yeah. Memories become stories so he remembers the adventures but not who Clara was.

Nice fake out with the waitress stuff. Audience expects the doctor to be in command plus the call back to the diner in Utah.

Plus the Doctor started off looking for the girl who dint know him now it's reversed.

 

[The Batman]

A spotty end to a spotty season.

I think, if fan reaction is any indication, this will go down as the most overrated season of the Modern Series.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

A spotty end to a spotty season.

I think, if fan reaction is any indication, this will go down as the most overrated season of the Modern Series.

Well I am not calling it better then Season 5, so I am not overrating it. Second best series, comfortably, is what it will have to settle for.

 

[Swordmaster]

Yeah this is right behind Season 5 for me, too. Great end to a great season.

 

[chamber-music]

Rassilon keeps getting owned by the Doctor.

I liked seeing the classic Tardis interior.

 

[haephestus]

Clara and Ashildr's Excellent Adventures

I want that spin-off almost as much as I want the Adventures of Madame Vastra in Victorian London spin-off!

 

[Pink Ranger]

Rassilon keeps getting owned by the Doctor.

At this point, it's like Elmer Fudd and Bugs Bunny.

 

[jaqua99]

I gotta say, I gave up on this series this season. I can't be the only one, but Clara being a Mary Sue, would be an understatement. In my opinion, she has ruined the show. What drew me to doctor who was who The Doctor was such a plot device. I felt that Clara, at minimum was his equal, just as clever, and now she has her own TARDIS? What is this? The excitement of The Doctor being a timelord just doesn't stand for me, not when his companion is superior to him.

Ill give the next season a few episodes too, but I think I'm giving up on this show for good

 

[Matt]

I gotta say, I gave up on this series this season. I can't be the only one, but Clara being a Mary Sue, would be an understatement. In my opinion, she has ruined the show. What drew me to doctor who was who The Doctor was such a plot device. I felt that Clara, at minimum was his equal, just as clever, and now she has her own TARDIS? What is this? The excitement of The Doctor being a timelord just doesn't stand for me, not when his companion is superior to him.

Ill give the next season a few episodes too, but I think I'm giving up on this show for good

I concur, at least regarding Clara. I thought this season was fairly good (ranking the NuWho, I would say 5, 1, 6, and then 9). But Clara...ugh. Her goodbye in last year's Christmas special (with her just growing old and dying) was poignant. Why undo that for THIS?

Hell, even her death in Face the Raven was fitting. She tried to be the Doctor and it got her killed. But nah, screw that. She can undo a set point in time, the Doctor will break the rule he chastised Rose for, when she tried to save her father, and alter her death...because why not? And then, what is the consequence of all of this? She gets her own TARDIS.

Clara's role in the mythology has been out of control from day one. The Impossible Girl, who gave the Doctor his TARDIS to begin with. Then in the anniversary, she is the one who talks the Doctor into sparing the Time Lords, so she has saved Gallifrey. Last season she became the woman who inspired the Doctor as a child. Now she is a ****ing Time Lord in her own right (that is to say, her reckless and stupid emulation of the Doctor has resulted in her having a consequence-free TARDIS, so long as she decides to die at her set point, eventually. She is the definition of Mary Sue. She has done nothing to deserve holding such a place in the mythology. As a result, it doesn't feel rewarding at all.

 

[Matt]

Side note - I'm not sure that the hybrid story is done just yet. When we last saw Missy, she was looking to use the notion of a hybrid to save herself from the Daleks. Gotta think that strand is going to pop back up eventually.

 

[The Batman]

I liked Clara in "Asylum of the Daleks", "The Snowmen", and "Day of the Doctor"....but other than that, she was usually either boring, annoyingly bossy, or a complete mary sue.

Moffat was too attached to the character, and it shows.

 

[Pink Ranger]

So does this mean that:

Spoiler

the diner from Impossible Astronaut was actually the other Tardis all along?

 

[Gold Samurai]

So does this mean that:

Spoiler

the diner from Impossible Astronaut was actually the other Tardis all along?

That was the whole point. Which makes me wonder. How the doctor came out this way

 

[Teelie]

Clara was definitely a Mary Sue but I don't think she ruined the show. I do think her mutliple deaths were increasingly redundant although the "she's gone for good" promise made is obviously a lie. She's "dead" in that once she's done flitting around the universe with Ashilda (Me) then she'll just pop right back to that very moment and no longer exist. Until then she is essentially immortal and capable of showing back up. It's just that the Doctor won't recognize her. Until he does.

It's a pretty damned big loophole.

All that said I also really like the idea of those two hopping around space and time getting into trouble with their own TARDIS. I just wish it had been done in a less convoluted way.

 

[SelinaKitten]

At this point, it's like Elmer Fudd and Bugs Bunny.

Be vewy vewy quiet

He's hunting wenegade Time Lords

 

[Pink Ranger]

Be vewy vewy quiet

He's hunting wenegade Time Lords

"It's Dalek season!"

"Negative, it is Timelord season!"

"Dalek season!"

"Timelord season!"

"D ... Timelord season!"

"Dalek season! Exterminate!"