Doctor Who - Not a Hugging Type of Thread

[Lord Valumart]

If there is a new show runner, please let it be Gatiss...

 

[Jason Kane]

a COMPLETELY fresh start to the show WOULD and SHOULD be the way to go at this juncture... it's time to pass on the reins to someone with a fresh new vision...

This! Sadly it could go two ways for the BBC: Pick a safe bet (i.e. Gatiss) or cancel it. I don't want a safe bet nor do I want cancellation

 

[Manic]

First off nice!
Secondly with the JNT talk people are having, when do people think JNT should have stepped down as showrunner? And also if you can who would you have had replaced him at the time?

He should've left around the same time as Peter Davison. You could just about feel the tone of the show starting to shift during Davison's final season, and the bad decisions all started piling up at the end of the season.

And Eric Sward should've definitely left along with JNT. I think it says a lot that when Saward left in the middle of season 23, the 6th Doctor was suddenly written better.


As for a replacement, the only person I can think of from that era of British sci-fi TV is PJ Hammond, creator of Sapphire & Steel. Even his unused "Paradise 5" script was among the best Lost Stories done by Big Finish. He would've been a good fit for Doctor Who, though I don't know if he should've been producer or script editor.

 

[Jason Kane]

If there is a new show runner, please let it be Gatiss...

 

[Lord Valumart]

Something against Gatiss?

 

[Manic]

Toby Whithouse would be better.

 

[Jason Kane]

Something against Gatiss?

Hit & miss ratio. We keep hoping for another Nightshade or Phantasmagoria out of him and we wind up with a mix of good to ablsolute clunkers.

 

[Manic]

In other news, the 6th Doctor/Mel audio "The Juggernauts" is on sale all month. It's one of my favorite audios featuring Mel, and one of my favorite Davros stories.

http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/the-juggernauts-231

 

[The Batman]

Gatiss has yet to make a truly remarkable Who story. As someone else said, he would probably be a safe pick, where the best thing for this show would be someone with a strong vision.

I actually hope the next showrunner isn't some longtime die hard Whovian. Someone who understands and loves the concept of Doctor Who, but not some rabid fan at the same time. During the last year, some of Moffats decisions have come off as fanboyish.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I thought Adventure in Time and Space was amazing but aside from that I've found his stuff to be either decent or outright bad.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I wonder if the leaks have zapped Moffat's desire to do another season? He didn't even try to bribe fans this time.

He had talked about plotting series 9.

He's already started to meet up with some of the writers for Series 9 (three I think). Add to that Steven himself and Gatiss, Series 9 is probably gonna be starting in the next few weeks.

 

[DrCosmic]

I figured now would be a good time to bring back the Master. Have him f--k with the Doctor's head by telling him that passing the 13 regeneration is dangerous. That is part of what drove him insane. Whether or not it true doesn't matter.

Also withhold how he escaped wherever Gallifrey is.

That sounds pretty awesome.

In regards to the blacked out portion: [BLACKOUT]I was referring to the Dalek race in general, not just Rusty. Now that the Doctor knows that the Daleks have been giving a strong artificial boost to their psychological state of belligerence, then I would hope he's planning on exploiting that. If he could find a way to deactivate that component in the entirety of the Dalek race, then he wouldn't have to contemplate mass genocide or the like for the race, now wouldn't he, and this whole "am I a good man" stuff might be moot, wouldn't you say? Cuz after all, without the influence of the component and without any other outside influence, like being soul linked to their most hated enemy like Rusty was, who knows how the Dalek race would go forward? It's better than destroying a whole species, though forgive me if I'm not a saint and think that, ya know, the living beings of the Universe might be better off without the Daleks. Put me down for one genocide if it meant the continued existence of everyone and everything, mostly because such an action is in no way analogous to anything in Hitler's warped, paranoid world view. The extinction of European Jews was not going to create a better, more just or peaceful society. The ending of the Daleks, because they are an actual threat to all of existence, WOULD be a boon to the sentient life forms of all the Universe and beyond.[/BLACKOUT]

Okay, cool.

[BLACKOUT]I'm not calling you Hitler, dude. Forget Hitler.

Two halves of the galaxy want to kill each other, peace is not possible. Can I kill one half, torturing them for information along the way, with no compassion for them because of they want to do what I am successfully doing, and still call myself a good guy? Don't they see themselves the same way, feel the same way? Why are they bad and I'm good? Why is the fact that they're "everyone and everything" not include us okay, but us not including them in "Eveyrone and everything" is? This is the entire point of the episode "You are a good Dalek." It's a philosophical question and it is valid. The motivations and methodologies are almost identical... The Doctor is just more effective.

I think you'd be a horrible Dalek, too optimistic. You think if all the computers turned off some Dalek's might be good, even though the Dalek who actually had a positive memory to draw on was still rejecting it until someone who had seen the cosmos to help fuel that feeling jacked into his brain. Of course, that didn't work out either, but if the Doctor hadn't been there, the Dalek wouldn't even have had someone to scream "No!" to when they tried to assert the value of that memory. It would simply have been overwhelmed by the vastly increased number of "evil" memories. And this is, again, the one Dalek who had a positive memory due to radiation poisoning.

Dr. Who would have to stop all the computers, give all the Dalek's an authentic positive memory and then plug them into a person who had no hatred for them to latch on to. If it wasn't for giving them an authentic positive memory, I'd say the Doctor could do it. As is, genocide is a pragmatic solution for a race that says 'It's either us or them.'

But being pragmatic doesn't make you a good person does it?
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[THUNDERSTRIKE]

it feels like I'm reading redacted government documents...

 

[Jason Kane]

 

[TheVileOne]

 

[chamber-music]

Is the guy playing Robin the one who plays Leonardo in the 'Da Vincis Demons' show?

(Too lazy too look it up, lol)

He is.

 

[Lord Valumart]

Oh, Ben Miller is in this episode. I like Ben Miller...

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

am I onto something?...

I JUST watched the Who ep called The Girl Who Waited... I don't know if it's just a matter of a pre-existing set that was used in Deep Breath or something more...

when Amy Pond was trapped on the planet Appulappachia, she was in the very same set that the Clockwork android leader found himself in that Missy referred to as 'Heaven' at the end of Deep Breath...

if you want to check it out, it's at the 13:27 mark of The Girl Who Waited ep...

is it possible that Missy is somehow connected to Amy in some way?... Missy stated that she likes her boyfriend's accent now and will let him keep it... isn't Amy Scottish?... is it possible that perhaps Missy is some warped version of Amy?... or is Missy somehow connected to Appulappachia?

or am I just stretching here?

 

[Doc Ock]

It's most likely just a reused location.

 

[OriginalMiles]

Maybe Missy is the older Amy!

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Maybe Missy is the older Amy!

When it comes to Moffat, that's not exactly an out-of-the-box suggestion.

 

[regwec]

Was the Leatherface droid from episode one of the same type as those in The Girl in the Fireplace?

 

[OriginalMiles]

Yeah, I think they were.

 

[Doc Ock]

Was the Leatherface droid from episode one of the same type as those in The Girl in the Fireplace?

Yes, or similar type. They are from the sister ship of Madam De Pompadour.

 

[Manic]

I think it's just a reused filming location. The BBC is cheap like that.

The corridors of Demon's Run were just the repainted walls they used for the TARDIS in "The Doctor's Wife."

God, then there was that time somebody noticed River Song wore the same brooch as Jeff's grandmother...